Would you mind removing the need for conservation tags to level your standing

[Gewalthaufen]

If someone had to create the most tedious, unfun infuriating minigame...wait, you did, it's conservation. And that leaves out the part where targets spawn inside geometry and you get piled on during the stupid animation that always plays. ..and then catch about 27 different "rare" variants except the one you need. Which is common.

Leave that where it belongs: As a minigame for masochists that really want some MTX. I'd rather farm 2-3 railjacks (the original ressources).

I can't get drunk enough to make this tolarable, it rather makes me remember all the other things I could be doing right now.

Like complaining about it on the forums.

[(PSN)corpusbonds]

If you’re that worried just buy the tags with plat. Conservation really isn’t that bad lol.

[xZephyrosx]

+1 it was fine that it was not needed to rank up in the other open worlds ... But then conservation is way way way better then farming Scintillant ... I did over 50 bounties over 50 times necramech runs and only dropped one. I will pick Conservation everyday of the week instead of farming that crap resource....

[ryu-hayabusa1]

9 hours ago, (PS4)haphazardlynamed said:

So apparently, Son is actually more interested in wildlife Rehab and Rescue, than he is Capturing

rather than capture random animals and hope the tags match up with one of the Token requirements.

focus on Weakened Predasite and Vulpaphyla, Revive them using cheapest antigen/mutagen

then immediately Release them (under Experimental Procedures) to get 10 Son tokens.

Much faster and painless than going though all the Conservation Minigames.

 

 

Here is a tip, from this good Tenno. 

Edit: I've never done any conservation, in POE or fortuna. Aside from standing, HoD made them interesting enough for me to do. But I guess, to each their own. 

[(PSN)ErydisTheLucario]

See it was one thing when the grind involved like 10+ tags. I thought it was a bit much myself, but I told myself I've taken on bigger challenges before...then they nerfed it. Not that I'm mad, I personally was prepared for a long grind, this is warframe after all. The change made it easier for everyone to lvl standing, and I thought it was fine if not better...but now you want the grind gone altogether? Sorry man, i don't side with you here considering it's not hard to find animals, and Avichea are just a waiting game...waiting in the same spot for minutes on end. That's just my opinion.

[HoustonDragon]

5 minutes ago, (PS4)corpusbonds said:

If you’re that worried just buy the tags with plat. Conservation really isn’t that bad lol.

Yeah, only there's not always the right tags or tokens available to buy.

 

I love doing conservation in PoE and Orb Vallis. I'm starting to despise the ones on Deimos.

[PallasRiot]

The conservation mini game isn't just not fun; it doesn't work well. It's clear these are not mechanics built in from the beginning; trails clip into the terrain, stray in and out of highlighted areas with no particular rhyme or reason, and don't play well with other visual effects. It's a shame that something as interesting as the Helminth system is gated behind interacting with a particularly frustratingly shabby mini game.

[Kconvey]

7 hours ago, Gewalthaufen said:

If someone had to create the most tedious, unfun infuriating minigame...wait, you did, it's conservation. And that leaves out the part where targets spawn inside geometry and you get piled on during the stupid animation that always plays. ..and then catch about 27 different "rare" variants except the one you need. Which is common.

Leave that where it belongs: As a minigame for masochists that really want some MTX. I'd rather farm 2-3 railjacks (the original ressources).

I can't get drunk enough to make this tolarable, it rather makes me remember all the other things I could be doing right now.

Like complaining about it on the forums.

They arent going to fix it, when they can.. "Encourage you" to buy it.

[Yakhul]

For those suffering with conservation: Other than the little infested bird, all the other targets spawn in the wild, just like in the plains. As someone who does conservation as easy and fast as anything else in the game, here is some tips:

- Archwing and then tranq rifle, look over the edges of Deimos for conservation targets with your tranq rifle.
- Use Ivara if possible, is the best option when it comes to conservation.
- Use a 3 days resources booster, it helps A LOT.
- If you need to make a pet, all you need to do is tranq a beast, then lure with Sound arrow some infested to the tranquilized target, let em attack it so it enters the stage of Weakened, then capture it, boom, you get tags, and the specimen to revive as your pet too.
- Ivara sleep arrow will work on most things except the predasite, they wake up too fast. Use Tranq Rifle.
- Do not use Sleep Arrow on the Velocipods. It will put em to sleep, but it wont allow you to capture them, as when you go close, the only option you have is to ride em instead of capturing them.
- Want to catch the infested bird? there is one specific spot where the bird always spawn in the same exact spot. If you have ivara equiped, use Navigator to hit the bird, then archwing and collect it.

A lot of people have their reasons why to dislike this system. But the way i see it, we ask for more and more and more, and when DE delivered the conservation minigame as part of us asking for more activities to do outside of the normal grineer and corpus massacre, then people hate on it because is "not efficient" or "not working well"
It may be tedious to gather the tags, but i believe it works as intended. That you do not want to go through the work of getting your tags, is no excuse to say that "it does not work well" maybe is just you who is not actually working.

If they had to put a reward that people sought after, people would still complain, even tho the same people said "is not rewarding" Maybe is not rewarding to just you?

Point is, no matter how DE tries to fix something, people will always start an argument because the fix DE gave us, is not the fix you were "expecting"

[anarchy753]

You can literally just fly around for like 30 mins or less with the tranq rifle out and get everything you need. You might not LIKE that content but it's hardly a huge investment that you need to do.

[-CdG-Zilchy]

2 hours ago, Yakhul said:

For those suffering with conservation: Other than the little infested bird, all the other targets spawn in the wild,

The avichea spawn in the wild as well, I've caught heaps. They're often in groups of 3.

[-CdG-Zilchy]

10 hours ago, Gewalthaufen said:

If someone had to create the most tedious, unfun infuriating minigame...wait, you did, it's conservation. And that leaves out the part where targets spawn inside geometry and you get piled on during the stupid animation that always plays. ..and then catch about 27 different "rare" variants except the one you need. Which is common.

Leave that where it belongs: As a minigame for masochists that really want some MTX. I'd rather farm 2-3 railjacks (the original ressources).

I can't get drunk enough to make this tolarable, it rather makes me remember all the other things I could be doing right now.

Like complaining about it on the forums.

Don't do it then and stop whining. It's pretty easy if you actually bother.

[Cyloss]

Use this route. everything you need spawns there. A cycle aound the mountain to force new spawns is 15 sec

 

[Fallen77]

I wouldn't MIND really, I would just find it very sad.

I'd be willing to bet my next salary that most people that find conservation SO unbearable have never even tried it properly nor tried making it efficient, more deciding that they hate it and would never touch it unless forced at gunpoint, making it all the less enjoyable for them.

You'd think that after 7 years of just gunplay, people would happily vary their experience, wouldn't it be for a couple hours out of the hundreds if not thousands of normal gunplay they had and will still have, but what do I know...

[-CdG-Zilchy]

9 hours ago, (XB1)TyeGoo said:

Well here it goes..

Yes, I know, I'm a hypocrite, and my hate speech towards conservation is still up in various threads.. anyway..

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It's not that bad -_- in Deimos you can get almost all via free roam, as in you don't even have to start the Minigame, just by flying over the map with the tranq rifle equipped and using the scope.. that's how I got all animals except rare birds and the panzer vulpaphyla.. 

And the conservation minigame.. isn't that bad, it's rather quick.. like a couple minutes per animal (I think it's possible to do it in an under a minute if you're good) I had to do it because of the panzer..

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So yeah, originally I said I'd stop playing if I ever had to do conservation .. that didn't end well xD since the day I said it I reached the point where I had to 😄

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Feedback for DE: change conservation on every open world like it is in Deimos. The ability to get all (most) animals by just roaming the open world, instead of making them exclusive to the mini game. Much like you can get resources from mining and fishing in containers etc.

Mad respect for having a go and getting it done.

[Hefes]

12 hours ago, (PS4)corpusbonds said:

If you’re that worried just buy the tags with plat. Conservation really isn’t that bad lol.

"Haha, just give them money because they forced you to do a tidious mini game you despise in order to progress." 

I wanna do ninja flips and shoot my guns. I dont care for these goofy mini game, timewasters. I just want the rewards.

And so I should give them money in order to progress and to avoid doing chores??? 

[TankHunter678]

9 minutes ago, (XB1)TyeGoo said:

Feedback for DE: change conservation on every open world like it is in Deimos. The ability to get all (most) animals by just roaming the open world, instead of making them exclusive to the mini game. Much like you can get resources from mining and fishing in containers etc.

The only open world where you have to do the minigame is Orb Vallis. PoE has them spawn on the map as well.

[vegetosayajin]

Took me 2 hours last week...the most annoying 2 hours.
It wasn't needed or wanted at all.
That said the artifacts kinda compensate for this terrible grind by not having you to go fishing and mining.
I guess it's ok-ish...

[(PSN)corpusbonds]

18 minutes ago, Hefes said:

"Haha, just give them money because they forced you to do a tidious mini game you despise in order to progress." 

I wanna do ninja flips and shoot my guns. I dont care for these goofy mini game, timewasters. I just want the rewards.

And so I should give them money in order to progress and to avoid doing chores??? 

Yeah and I despise a lot of things in Warframe yet I can still do them easily.

 It’s a suggestion instead of complaining. If you’re having issues just look up some tips.

[(PSN)corpusbonds]

12 hours ago, HoustonDragon said:

Yeah, only there's not always the right tags or tokens available to buy.

 

I love doing conservation in PoE and Orb Vallis. I'm starting to despise the ones on Deimos.

Haven’t really noticed to be honest.

 The only issue I have in Deimos is the bird. It’s so small I can’t see it, or it gets stuck in a wall.

[Fallen77]

il y a 25 minutes, (XB1)TyeGoo a dit :

Ask this fallout, doom, GTA, rainbow six, counter strike, team fortress, heck, ask those that pay full price for a damn soccer game every year..

It doesn't work that way, you can't change the game and expect people to love it. Majority is here for the looting and shooting, which is non existent in all mini games we have currently..

It's one looting mechanic like any other. YOU decide to flag it as "just a minigame". But when I'm going around, gathering all OW ressources at once, mixing all the different systems at once, including the regular gunplay from ever spawning ennemies, I find it extremely well integrated into OW gameplay, best version of conservation so far imo.

Now, comparing to other games this way is cheap and barely compatible, but I'll humor you for the games I personnaly know :

Fallout, already had somewhat varied gameplay between exploring, looting, talking, crafting, shooting and now base building/management. You gonna tell me everyone playing this is specifically looking for ALL those systems at once ?

Doom, such a cheap shot talking about a game that is so turbo focused on one thing. But even then, there is still a good bit of exploration and collectible searching, which couldn't be further from base gameplay of hyper adrenaline filled gunplay.

GTA is so full of all imaginable side activities I'm baffled you even thought that mentionning this one would work in your favor in any way.

TF2 had a lot of variety implemented into it, from the many xmas and halloween events bringing coop boss fights, to Man vs machine, we even had a kart racing game if I remember well. And that's only from the devs, if you go to private servers, you have surfing, prop hunt, heeha and a bunch of other things I can't remember atm.

No need to remind me about FIFA, my opinion of those games is already low enough as it is.