Much needed changes to affinity distribution for Sentinels/Companions

[saghzs]

With Heart of Deimos adding 6 new companions at once, it has become extremly obvious that the affinity distribution for them needs another look.

As of right now, you getting affinity from your own kills will not level your pet. Only affinity from kills that other players got and global affinity, like spy vaults actually give the pet xp.
Well i guess the pet getting a kill also gives it affinity, but let's be honest, that isn't exactly reliable.

This distribution effectively encourages leeching, because for every kill you get, your pet takes longer to level.


It would be really nice if our own kills could level companions and sentinels.

[Dhrekr]

Eh?

With presumably six months unti we get a new Companion (DE doesn't really churn them out super-fast), we definitely have loads of time to level these six.

Also, I can't help but to think... "kills that other players got"... means that with a couple ESO maps you have completely leveled the pet (and, sure, it might die a couple of time, but just make it chuncky af and heal it a bit, and you still get through in a couple of matches).

I mean, what's the rush? And, if there is a reason to hurry, why aren't you just doing a couple of ESO and levelling everything super-fast?

[IspanoLFW]

4 minutes ago, Dhrekr said:

Eh?

With presumably six months unti we get a new Companion (DE doesn't really churn them out super-fast), we definitely have loads of time to level these six.

Also, I can't help but to think... "kills that other players got"... means that with a couple ESO maps you have completely leveled the pet (and, sure, it might die a couple of time, but just make it chuncky af and heal it a bit, and you still get through in a couple of matches).

I mean, what's the rush? And, if there is a reason to hurry, why aren't you just doing a couple of ESO and levelling everything super-fast?

I think his point is that you need other people to level it for you. ie a terrible mindset people have gotten into due to the way shared affinity works.

[saghzs]

4 minutes ago, Dhrekr said:

I mean, what's the rush? And, if there is a reason to hurry, why aren't you just doing a couple of ESO and levelling everything super-fast?

Because i don't want to be that one guy that goes in to ESO just to afk?

I like to participate, but participating means my pet will level significantly slower.
 

 

And yes, while there is technically no rush, its nice to get the MR stuff just out of the way whenever you can.

[IspanoLFW]

Just now, saghzs said:

Because i don't want to be that one guy that goes in to ESO just to afk?

I like to participate, but participating means my pet will level significantly slower.
 

 

And yes, while there is technically no rush, its nice to get the MR stuff just out of the way whenever you can.

I've heard that Railjack works, ie the affinity comes from the jack itself so it counts as shared. But i've not tested it. But if you have one and can easily solo Gian Point, could be an option.

[saghzs]

Just now, IspanoLFW said:

I've heard that Railjack works, ie the affinity comes from the jack itself so it counts as shared. But i've not tested it. But if you have one and can easily solo Gian Point, could be an option.

Yes, thats how a friend of mine leveled them, but it requires a somewhat decent railjack loadout to be any efficient at it, which the majority of players don't have.

[Noobasique]

5 минут назад, saghzs сказал:

Because i don't want to be that one guy that goes in to ESO just to afk?

I like to participate, but participating means my pet will level significantly slower.
 

Pick Trinity. No Saryn/Volt/Mirage -> reenter. No need to kill a single mob but you're definitely participating. 

[saghzs]

3 minutes ago, Noobasique said:

Pick Trinity. No Saryn/Volt/Mirage -> reenter. No need to kill a single mob but you're definitely participating.

Ah yes, the good old EV trin that totally isn't useless because everyone runs zenurik/energize.

I get your point, but besides casting my 2 once a minute i'm still pretty much doing nothing.

[Ifeanoiba]

i used sanctuary to lv up mine took like 3 rounds to max them with double xp so probably 6 rounds with out xp boost doesnt seem that bad to me  

[saghzs]

5 minutes ago, Ifeanoiba said:

i used sanctuary to lv up mine took like 3 rounds to max them with double xp so probably 6 rounds with out xp boost doesnt seem that bad to me  

I didn't say the time it takes is bad.

I said the fact that you have to rely on your teammates being the ones that kill enemies is bad.

[Liljeman]

5 minutes ago, saghzs said:

Ah yes, the good old EV trin that totally isn't useless because everyone runs zenurik/energize.

I get your point, but besides casting my 2 once a minute i'm still pretty much doing nothing.

Rhino for roar would probably be more useful for ESO. Us sharing xp to pets is something I would want too.

[Ifeanoiba]

11 minutes ago, saghzs said:

I didn't say the time it takes is bad.

I said the fact that you have to rely on your teammates being the ones that kill enemies is bad.

ah i see but at the same time ur probably gonna end up relying on ur team mates during xp grind anyways cus hydron and eso are like the most efficient ways but i guess if ur like a solo only player i can see why u would want the option  

[saghzs]

10 minutes ago, Ifeanoiba said:

ah i see but at the same time ur probably gonna end up relying on ur team mates during xp grind anyways cus hydron and eso are like the most efficient ways but i guess if ur like a solo only player i can see why u would want the option  

While i tend to play in solo when leveling, if i play in groups, i can not stand just being there and doing nothing. Being afk, leeching from teammates is such a bad thing to do.

[Noobasique]

43 минуты назад, saghzs сказал:

the good old EV trin that totally isn't useless because everyone runs zenurik/energize.

45% EE builds and people surrounded by parasitic in infested zones might disagree.

30 минут назад, Liljeman сказал:

Rhino for roar would probably be more useful for ESO

You just gave me an idea. EV Trinity or Protea with Roar...  Infusing as soon as I get home from work.

[Dhrekr]

51 minutes ago, saghzs said:

Because i don't want to be that one guy that goes in to ESO just to afk?

Goodness me my child. Then don't do that.

Go to ESO and play normally. Say you do 25% of the damage. Your pet receives 75% of total XP and not 100%, levelling at 3/4th speed. Which means you'll need 4 rounds instead of three.

What's the rush that you can't afford one additional round of ESO!

[Fallen77]

Because it's a coop game and playing with others is incentivised through affinity distribution ?

Crazy idea I know

[saghzs]

1 hour ago, Fallen77 said:

Because it's a coop game and playing with others is incentivised through affinity distribution ?

Crazy idea I know

So you don't want a change that only imporves the life of solo players and doesnt change the life of coop players at all?

There is no downside to my proposal, only upsides.

[vegetosayajin]

2 hours ago, saghzs said:

Because i don't want to be that one guy that goes in to ESO just to afk?

Then don't be.
I go in with a frame(If I'm feeling helpful with trinity, and if I want to play what I want with something else) and bring a good melee and just do what I can.
Sometimes I even outdamage the "eso frames".
Yes because I do things I have to go not for 2 zones but for 4, but that way I'm not afk-ing.

[TKDancer]

2 hours ago, Fallen77 said:

Because it's a coop game and playing with others is incentivised through affinity distribution ?

Crazy idea I know

its my pet, why should it gain exp from others but not from me?

10 minutes ago, vegetosayajin said:

Then don't be.
I go in with a frame(If I'm feeling helpful with trinity, and if I want to play what I want with something else) and bring a good melee and just do what I can.
Sometimes I even outdamage the "eso frames".
Yes because I do things I have to go not for 2 zones but for 4, but that way I'm not afk-ing.

are you not understanding the issue? participating = slower ranking because killing means teammates dont get the kills and pets get affinity from teammates getting kills but not from us killing enemies, so the current ideal is joining farming activities and AFK'ing to maximize the affinity share gotten from the teammates

[TKDancer]

2 hours ago, Dhrekr said:

Goodness me my child. Then don't do that.

Go to ESO and play normally. Say you do 25% of the damage. Your pet receives 75% of total XP and not 100%, levelling at 3/4th speed. Which means you'll need 4 rounds instead of three.

What's the rush that you can't afford one additional round of ESO!

or DE could... let pets receive exp from the kills made by their owners instead?????????


why are so many of you against a completely positive change that would only improve the game for people who prefer solo play

[vegetosayajin]

4 minutes ago, TKDancer said:

are you not understanding the issue?

are you not reading? 
I understand fully well and I ranked up the thing in 4 zones with no booster.
I don't know why people want to save up the precious 4 min to later complain that they have nothing to do... 

 

  

Just now, TKDancer said:

why are so many of you against a completely positive change that would only improve the game for people who prefer solo play

I am for it, but the thing is it's not impossible, nor slow now either, that was the point.

[TKDancer]

Just now, vegetosayajin said:

I don't know why people want to save up the precious 4 min

because why the hell not??? maybe they have multiple things to level and want to get it over with so they can enjoy their ranked pets! what is the reason to not let pets receive exp from their owners but have them receive affinity share?? it doesnt even need to save time, some people might prefer to do it solo?
 

1 minute ago, vegetosayajin said:

 to later complain that they have nothing to do... 

dont accuse people you dont know of random things like that, weirdo

[Drachnyn]

vor 2 Stunden schrieb Fallen77:

Because it's a coop game and playing with others is incentivised through affinity distribution ?

Crazy idea I know

But the way it is now encourages leeching your brain out. You level your pet the quickest in ESO by not doing anything. I mean you can pretend that you arent leeching by playing trinity or another support frame but effectively you are still leeching. I dont usually think that leeching is a big problem in this game but that doesnt mean it should be encouraged.

[saghzs]

3 minutes ago, vegetosayajin said:

I am for it, but the thing is it's not impossible, nor slow now either, that was the point.

Nobody ever said leveling pets was impossible, all i said is that i wan't a better way to level pets other than relying on teammates.

[vegetosayajin]

2 minutes ago, saghzs said:

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de wants you to play the game longer and they want you to play with other people, that why those systems are implemented, not because they can't do it way easier for solo players 
It's not a question of "they missed that thing", it's the way that the game is supposed to play from their perspective.
Almost every important system is in one way or another tied to coop play.You can play solo but - less enemies/loot, less xp, less options for gear(if you are truly solo you won't get in a clan etc).

tl;dr they will not change this no matter if you think it's not fair and leeching will be a thing.