Shouldn't Xaku's 4 + Sly passive have 100% dodge chance?

[MaelTheArchangel]

My Xaku just what came from Foundry so I wanted to try a 100% dodge chance in combo with Sly Vulpaphyla and when my 4 was up + Survival Instinct(75%+40% =115% dodge chance) I should have over 100% so I thought that Xaku with the right setup could be untouchable, but when I tried I was very dissapointed cuz enemies still could hit me. I just want to ask is there a bug or the game just dosen't allow us to go 100 dodge chance?

[Annnoth]

Evasion isn't dodge. Evasion is basically an invisible aura that debuffs enemy accuracy against you depending what actions you're taking (standing still vs bullet jumping). Xaku's dodge is unique in that you're still taking said hit, the game just decides it will ignore that damage. 

However the 2 pair extremely well. 75% chance to not be hurt when shot is one thing, but when you just cut the amount of times you get shot by like 50% then it's much more powerful.

[chaotea]

It doesnt stack. So basically you should have a 75% chance to dodge, as well as a 40% chance to dodge. So you could fail the first dodge, but get the second, or fail them both.

[MaelTheArchangel]

50 minutes ago, Annnoth said:

Evasion isn't dodge. Evasion is basically an invisible aura that debuffs enemy accuracy against you depending what actions you're taking (standing still vs bullet jumping). Xaku's dodge is unique in that you're still taking said hit, the game just decides it will ignore that damage. 

However the 2 pair extremely well. 75% chance to not be hurt when shot is one thing, but when you just cut the amount of times you get shot by like 50% then it's much more powerful.

So I get the mechanic wrong, thanks for helping

[toomanydice]

I think they might want to change the wording on the ability to avoid further confusion in the future.  I was planning on combining Xaku with the Carnis set of mods, but now I might have to rethink things.

[Infinitewin]

The Dodge chance from Xaku is exclusive to it. The Evasion stat according to the Warframe Wiki's Agility Drift:

"Evasion refers to the ability to passively reduce the accuracy of enemy units attacking the player from range."

So you have 75% chance to ignore incoming damage with the Xaku 4 active, but Evasion doesn't stack from it. It just gives enemies a harder chance to hit you. With the Carnis mod set and Agility Drift you should have 36% Evasion. With Sly that goes up to 76%. The Wiki also mentions that Mirage's Eclipse also reduces chance to hit, but what value that is isn't specified. You could replace Xaku's Whisper with Eclipse for a 75% (max) Dodge Chance, Damage Resistance and potentially 146% Evasion Chance.

 

 

[kwlingo]

This would her 100% Nyx 2.0 with void damage added. lol

All this is BS because why did DE decide stagger and knockdown and recovery are the same thing vs not when dodge and evasion are not? lol Makes no sense. Only DE is allowed to decide.

[(NSW)CloudStrife1108]

So basically I’ve have done the math and full testing with Xaku mirages eclipse give a 75% dr and a 50% evasion stack that on top of agility drifts 6% plus sly Vulpaphyla buff    ( FYI after doing testing on sly buff I can confirm that the buff affect evasion on two accounts 1 heavy attack kills which resets after kill or attack mean to to be stacked with car is mods 2 after each kill for 8 sec the mod description is worded weird and the buff has a yo bug they are fixing soon) 

add each of those together plus car is set mod you can get a guaranteed 100+% evasion of all are stacked for 8sec add that to his dodge chance and even with the others falling off you still avoid most any damage also after 5sec can be reapplied turning you into a evasion machine that doesn’t die and if you use emo aura against corpus well corpus can’t do anything anymore