White_Matter Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 I haven't touched Liches since god knows when, but today I decided I could try to get elemental upgrades for weapons I already had(I unknowingly created some Impact weapons :/). After a few tries I killed one larvling and saw that it had Twin Stubbas(killed it with saryn so it would be an upgrade over my 30% impact stubbas regardless) and before I turned it , I decided to clear the room first of enemies and then it just died. Like yeah, if you don't touch a Larvling for a minute or less, it dies by itself, denying you the opportunity to get the roll you desperately wanted. And I thought this whole thing couldn't get any worse :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)C11H22O11 Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 Why would you not stab it immediately after you wanted the weapon. They do die after some time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)ShadowBlood89 Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 4 minutes ago, White_Matter said: I haven't touched Liches since god knows when, but today I decided I could try to get elemental upgrades for weapons I already had(I unknowingly created some Impact weapons :/). After a few tries I killed one larvling and saw that it had Twin Stubbas(killed it with saryn so it would be an upgrade over my 30% impact stubbas regardless) and before I turned it , I decided to clear the room first of enemies and then it just died. Like yeah, if you don't touch a Larvling for a minute or less, it dies by itself, denying you the opportunity to get the roll you desperately wanted. And I thought this whole thing couldn't get any worse :D its been known as they get treated the same as rescue targets that if you do not stab them after they go down they will die Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmberStar Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 The "dies by itself" is a feature - people wanted a way to opt out of making liches (have all the weapons, don't care about weapons, don't feel like dealing with them at all, whatevers.) The larva auto-dies so they don't break things like Interception or Defense by somehow being still counted as "alive" and blocking the next wave. They added a similar feature for people who don't want their lich to level up - knock down their first health bar three times *without* using a Parazon finisher and they'll go away without killing the player or gaining a level. Of course actually using that option in teams makes some people *incredibly* angry, because of course it does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesseract7777 Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 19 minutes ago, EmberStar said: The "dies by itself" is a feature - people wanted a way to opt out of making liches (have all the weapons, don't care about weapons, don't feel like dealing with them at all, whatevers.) The larva auto-dies so they don't break things like Interception or Defense by somehow being still counted as "alive" and blocking the next wave. They added a similar feature for people who don't want their lich to level up - knock down their first health bar three times *without* using a Parazon finisher and they'll go away without killing the player or gaining a level. Of course actually using that option in teams makes some people *incredibly* angry, because of course it does. Because you OWE THEM those ten murmurs from YOUR LICH. How dare you make your own decisions regarding your own personal nemeiss! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanFanel1980mx Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 12 minutes ago, Tesseract7777 said: Because you OWE THEM those ten murmurs from YOUR LICH. How dare you make your own decisions regarding your own personal nemeiss! I would consider doing it if it was 25% of your requiem requirement and not a measly 10 murmurs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syln Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 il y a 44 minutes, (XB1)C11H22O11 a dit : Why would you not stab it immediately after you wanted the weapon. They do die after some time Basically this, it doesn't make sense even if what happened to you shouldn't be a thing, there is absolutely no reason to not finish a larvling after you identify a weapon that you actually want so that's on you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Shaun-T-Wilson Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 Alot of players were complaining about unwanted lavaling following them. So the auto die is probably to solve that issue. If you could see its weapon you be close enough to stab it, which takes less than a few seconds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Madurai-Prime Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 That's more your wrong doing. If you were worried about getting killed while interacting with the prompt use your operator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aldain Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 I just did my second Lich out of boredom and for nightwave today (yes stupid reason to do a Lich, I know) and honestly the issue I had was mostly the sheer number of long-mission type nodes that it kept claiming (mostly Defense and Disruption...and at least 2 of the Defection nodes in the star chart) and how hard it was to even get it to appear. Combat-wise it was actually easier than my first Lich for some reason, and with the Kuva Archgun and being Electricity type I expected the opposite. I don't know how but I actually got 2 of the Requiems revealed before it even hit level 3...the rest of it was just me stabbing wildly because it then started showing up every other mission. My main takeaway from my second Lich: I hate the Grineer...so much, god damn Commanders Switch Teleport spamming and level 100+ Nox units showing up in packs of 5... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trst Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 So another way in which people make the Lich system worse than it actually is. Sometimes I wonder if people do this intentionally. And no I'm not saying the system is "good" but man do people love making mountains out of ant hills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesseract7777 Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 1 hour ago, VanFanel1980mx said: I would consider doing it if it was 25% of your requiem requirement and not a measly 10 murmurs. Right? Sometimes those ten murmurs are nice... but sometimes the owner of that Lich doesn't want to reset their Liches threat level for a measly ten murmurs, depending on how close they are to completion, etc. It is always the choice of the Lich holder and no one should ever be given crap for deciding to do what they want their own Lich. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laston Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 you forgot to add the layers upon layers of RNG i decided today to try and get a brakk with heat so i can upgrade mine for some reason... after i did about 10 runs or so i gave up actually just getting the damn lich cause i kept getting shilldegs and tonkors over and over... Everytime i try to engage with the system after ive obtained all the weapons it feels boring and simply not worth the effort because the missions are such a boring island of content... why can you not simply do other missions and find murmur if they had added it to say relic missions or bounties in Plains/Fortuna so id have a reason to go back id be all over that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)robotwars7 Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 so first we had people stabbing by accident, now we've got people who stab too late, somehow. seriously, how hard is it for you guys to stab someone at the proper time? 😋 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aldain Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 23 minutes ago, (PS4)robotwars7 said: seriously, how hard is it for you guys to stab someone at the proper time? 😋 There's a good reason why assassin and comedian are two of the harder jobs to succeed at. Because without good timing you'll always miss the mark, every time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesseract7777 Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 4 minutes ago, Aldain said: There's a good reason why assassin and comedian are two of the harder jobs to succeed at. Because without good timing you'll always miss the mark, every time. A lot of people think they will be great at standup comedy because they are the class clown or the funny guy around their friends. They don't realize how hard it is, how much work it is preparing a set beforehand, how much talent and built skill it takes to read a room and keep them interested and laughing, without knowing any of them from Adam. If you are at all funny easy to make your friends laugh... you know what they think is funny and all their triggers. A crowd of strangers is a totally different story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yrkul Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 8 minutes ago, Aldain said: There's a good reason why assassin and comedian are two of the harder jobs to succeed at. Because without good timing you'll always miss the mark, every time. I like assassinating assassins. They always look so surprised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aldain Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 5 minutes ago, Tesseract7777 said: A lot of people think they will be great at standup comedy because they are the class clown or the funny guy around their friends. They don't realize how hard it is, how much work it is preparing a set beforehand, how much talent and built skill it takes to read a room and keep them interested and laughing, without knowing any of them from Adam. If you are at all funny easy to make your friends laugh... you know what they think is funny and all their triggers. A crowd of strangers is a totally different story. That's why we ever so often have people who make "joke" threads that are about as amusing as a gas explosion. Even getting a few non-cheap laughs around here is fairly difficult. But eh, its a living -honks clown nose-. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace-Bounty-Hunter Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 3 hours ago, White_Matter said: I decided to clear the room first of enemies and then it just died. Like yeah, if you don't touch a Larvling for a minute or less, it dies by itself, denying you the opportunity to get the roll you desperately wanted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voltage Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 I just dislike the fact that after having maximum elementals on all weapons with ephemeras, there is no reward at all in doing a Lich. It would be nice if I could swap my elemental in my Arsenal if I had earned 60% on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarriaga Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 4 hours ago, White_Matter said: , I decided to clear the room first of enemies and then it just died You can thank other players for that. They demanded a dedicated opt-in system with confirmation (Hold). Initially, you only had to kill the Larving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadoon Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 1 hour ago, Jarriaga said: You can thank other players for that. They demanded a dedicated opt-in system with confirmation (Hold). Initially, you only had to kill the Larving. Yeah, be glad you didn't just have a random lich develop from doing an exterminate mission with your ignis. Also be glad you actually know what weapon the lich has before you make it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarriaga Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 1 hour ago, Deadoon said: Yeah, be glad you didn't just have a random lich develop from doing an exterminate mission with your ignis. Also be glad you actually know what weapon the lich has before you make it. You do you. I was OK with the original system. The point of a nemesis is the consequence over your actions. The changes killed that and turned Liches into nothing more than an Ephemera/Kuva Bramma (Back then) shop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)thowed Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 Bring back the laugh reaction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiltskillet Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 8 hours ago, White_Matter said: After a few tries I killed one larvling and saw that it had Twin Stubbas(killed it with saryn so it would be an upgrade over my 30% impact stubbas regardless) and before I turned it , I decided to clear the room first of enemies and then it just died. Like yeah, if you don't touch a Larvling for a minute or less, it dies by itself, denying you the opportunity to get the roll you desperately wanted. Super Space Ninja Jedi versus pathetic Larvling minion. Larvling dies early, but squeaks out the win in the final seconds anyway, 0 -1 . Epic. Larvling be like... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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