Make other players not disturb your fish

[DCaedus]

It ruins the point of fishing with other people, you can't do it because other players throwing a spear or walking into the water will disturb your fish and make them run away. Making it so that you have to fish alone.

[(PSN)zenhumphrey]

I don't think fishing is designed to be done in a team. What's so bad about fishing alone anyway? 

[(PSN)MYKK678]

30 minutes ago, D_Caedus said:

It ruins the point of fishing with other people, you can't do it because other players throwing a spear or walking into the water will disturb your fish and make them run away. Making it so that you have to fish alone.

Cant say i've ever seen anyone do something so bad that it made the fish grow legs and run away tbh.

To answer the topic though, thats why Orb/Plains/Deimos let you enter them solo. What the benefit of going fishing as a team? Especially a team you obviously dont trust?

[DCaedus]

28 minutes ago, (PS4)zenhumphrey said:

I don't think fishing is designed to be done in a team. What's so bad about fishing alone anyway? 

 

9 minutes ago, (PS4)MYKK678 said:

What the benefit of going fishing as a team? Especially a team you obviously dont trust?

Sharing baits and playing with friends.

What's so bad about fishing with other people that you have to do it alone.

[(PSN)MYKK678]

41 minutes ago, D_Caedus said:

 

Sharing baits and playing with friends.

What's so bad about fishing with other people that you have to do it alone.

Right so then its not something for DE to fix, its up to you to fix it. You need to ask these "friends" not to go running into the water. Problem solved.

To answer though, your request is impossible. The fish react to player characters to add difficulty in catching them. If theres 1 player character they'll react to 1, if theres 4 player characters they'll react to 4. Theres no such thing as "Your Fish", theres just a pond or lake or river with Fish in it. Tell them to spread out, or if you want to share bait then Take Turns. Its up to you to solve and organize that, not DE.

[trunks013]

A social fisher i see ^.^ 

Yeah i tryed to show a fellow tenno how to fish and hit that wall on POE a long time ago. We ended up taking 2 ponds near one another ^.^ 

The fact is you also dont see the same fishes and when he catch one it disturbs yours.

Would be cool tho ^.^ 

[Proscriptor]

50 minutes ago, D_Caedus said:

Sharing baits and playing with friends.

if they are your friends, why are they missing throws and walking into the water?

[(PSN)zenhumphrey]

1 hour ago, D_Caedus said:

 

Sharing baits and playing with friends.

Sometimes fishing hot spots are pretty close to each other so if you want to play with friends but don't like how they ruin the fishing experience by accident then you can ask them to fish to another fishing hot spot.

[outseeker]

53 minutes ago, (PS4)MYKK678 said:

Right so then its not something for DE to fix, its up to you to fix it. You need to ask these "friends" not to go running into the water. Problem solved.

To answer though, your request is impossible. The fish react to player characters to add difficulty in catching them. If theres 1 player character they'll react to 1, if theres 4 player characters they'll react to 4. Theres no such thing as "Your Fish", theres just a pond or lake or river with Fish in it. Tell them to spread out, or if you want to share bait then Take Turns. Its up to you to solve and organize that, not DE.

Pretty sure there actually is such a thing as "your fish"- I've been fishing with people before and they seem to be fishing invisible fish. They don't catch my fish and I don't catch theirs from what I can tell, which means each player already has their own fish, and their spears should only disturb their own fish.

[DCaedus]

On 2020-09-16 at 8:16 AM, (PS4)MYKK678 said:

Right so then its not something for DE to fix, its up to you to fix it. You need to ask these "friends" not to go running into the water. Problem solved.

To answer though, your request is impossible. The fish react to player characters to add difficulty in catching them. If theres 1 player character they'll react to 1, if theres 4 player characters they'll react to 4. Theres no such thing as "Your Fish", theres just a pond or lake or river with Fish in it. Tell them to spread out, or if you want to share bait then Take Turns. Its up to you to solve and organize that, not DE.

Right, then you clearly don't understand how fishing spawns work. I advise you to do your research in order to contribute helpful feedback before commenting false information you don't actually know about, both on fishing spawns and difficulty alike, again, just to not contribute false information and spam in general.

 

On 2020-09-16 at 8:18 AM, trunks013 said:

A social fisher i see ^.^ 

Yeah i tryed to show a fellow tenno how to fish and hit that wall on POE a long time ago. We ended up taking 2 ponds near one another ^.^ 

The fact is you also dont see the same fishes and when he catch one it disturbs yours.

Would be cool tho ^.^ 

 

On 2020-09-16 at 9:10 AM, outseeker said:

Pretty sure there actually is such a thing as "your fish"- I've been fishing with people before and they seem to be fishing invisible fish. They don't catch my fish and I don't catch theirs from what I can tell, which means each player already has their own fish, and their spears should only disturb their own fish.

 

[(PSN)MYKK678]

23 hours ago, D_Caedus said:

Right, then you clearly don't understand how fishing spawns work. I advise you to do your research in order to contribute helpful feedback before commenting false information you don't actually know about, both on fishing spawns and difficulty alike, again, just to not contribute false information and spam in general.

 

 

 

Coming from the person who thinks that you can share bait if you don't share fish, this didn't mean much. Take the advice or don't, but at least try to do it with a bit of maturity. Its still not DE's issue, and its still up to you to communicate with your friends. Although after a reply like that i'm starting to understand why communication isn't an option.

And just for the future, you don't seem to understand what the word "spam" means. It would be a good idea to learn the meaning behind the words you choose to use before failing to lecture anyone about anything.

Have a good weekend

[Steel_Rook]

On 2020-09-16 at 4:16 PM, (PS4)MYKK678 said:

Right so then its not something for DE to fix, its up to you to fix it. You need to ask these "friends" not to go running into the water. Problem solved.

It's an issue that doesn't exist in either Cetus or Fortuna, where one player's fish are entire independent of those that spawn for the rest of the team. The Deimos issue is novel.

[DCaedus]

3 hours ago, (PS4)MYKK678 said:

Coming from the person who thinks that you can share bait if you don't share fish, this didn't mean much. Take the advice or don't, but at least try to do it with a bit of maturity. Its still not DE's issue, and its still up to you to communicate with your friends. Although after a reply like that i'm starting to understand why communication isn't an option.

And just for the future, you don't seem to understand what the word "spam" means. It would be a good idea to learn the meaning behind the words you choose to use before failing to lecture anyone about anything.

Have a good weekend

 

On 2020-09-17 at 11:48 AM, D_Caedus said:

You clearly don't understand how fishing spawns work.

 

On 2020-09-17 at 11:48 AM, D_Caedus said:

false information

 

[Pizzarugi]

On 2020-09-16 at 7:16 AM, (PS4)MYKK678 said:

Right so then its not something for DE to fix, its up to you to fix it. You need to ask these "friends" not to go running into the water. Problem solved.

You missed the part where players throwing spears into the water also scares the fish. Nothing can be done about that on the player's end.

[(PSN)MYKK678]

2 hours ago, Pizzarugi said:

You missed the part where players throwing spears into the water also scares the fish. Nothing can be done about that on the player's end.

Oh I missed nothing actually, theres a very easy solution too. I actually technically just pointed towards it with my last reply to the OP. Unfortunately their aforementioned communication issues mean they couldn't muster up a proper reply to said post, so tbh i don't feel it would be beneficial to just hand them the answer. They could ofc just read my reply and follow the obvious train of thought it leads to, but they won't.

Think about the bait, maybe you'll have more sense than them 

[(XBOX)Rez090]

11 hours ago, Pizzarugi said:

You missed the part where players throwing spears into the water also scares the fish. Nothing can be done about that on the player's end.

No it doesn't, each player has their own fish that they can see, you can't disturb another players fish that doesn't exist for you.

[(XBOX)AeroTurner5150]

On 2020-09-16 at 7:45 AM, D_Caedus said:

It ruins the point of fishing with other people, you can't do it because other players throwing a spear or walking into the water will disturb your fish and make them run away. Making it so that you have to fish alone.

No, and for one big reason.

To #*!% with those people who fish during bounties. I will gladly fly just above the water and spam itzal's cosmic crush or fire into the water just to make sure you don't catch anything. Bonus points if I'm playing loki and switch teleport them into the water. I WANT to disturb your fishing.

[DCaedus]

On 2020-09-18 at 6:17 PM, (PS4)MYKK678 said:

Oh I missed nothing actually, theres a very easy solution too. I actually technically just pointed towards it with my last reply to the OP. Unfortunately their aforementioned communication issues mean they couldn't muster up a proper reply to said post, so tbh i don't feel it would be beneficial to just hand them the answer. They could ofc just read my reply and follow the obvious train of thought it leads to, but they won't.

Think about the bait, maybe you'll have more sense than them 

 

19 hours ago, (XB1)Rez090 said:

No it doesn't, each player has their own fish that they can see, you can't disturb another players fish that doesn't exist for you.

Yes it does, throwing any spear into the water will scare everyone's fish around the location where the spear was thrown, whether the spear hit a fish or miss.

[DCaedus]

On 2020-09-18 at 6:17 PM, (PS4)MYKK678 said:

Oh I missed nothing actually, theres a very easy solution too. I actually technically just pointed towards it with my last reply to the OP. Unfortunately their aforementioned communication issues mean they couldn't muster up a proper reply to said post, so tbh i don't feel it would be beneficial to just hand them the answer. They could ofc just read my reply and follow the obvious train of thought it leads to, but they won't.

Think about the bait, maybe you'll have more sense than them 

So delusional.

[DoomFruit]

4 hours ago, (XB1)AeroTurner5150 said:

No, and for one big reason.

To #*!% with those people who fish during bounties. I will gladly fly just above the water and spam itzal's cosmic crush or fire into the water just to make sure you don't catch anything. Bonus points if I'm playing loki and switch teleport them into the water. I WANT to disturb your fishing.

The perfect solution to this is to make all pickups which aren't ammo, energy or health shared at infinite range like Railjack. That way there's no leeching any more since everybody gets everything that was collected.

[Pizzarugi]

16 hours ago, DoomFruit said:

The perfect solution to this is to make all pickups which aren't ammo, energy or health shared at infinite range like Railjack. That way there's no leeching any more since everybody gets everything that was collected.

That doesn't solve the problem that is players avoiding the bounty they came to this team for and letting everyone else complete it for them.

Leeches aren't leeching just to be a hindrance to the team that gives nothing back to them. Your solution doesn't disincentivize them from leeching, it just makes them more tolerable to the team as everyone else randomly gets fish and ores/gems.

The solution should be, once a bounty is active, all gem/ore deposits and fishing spots should be hidden or at least non-interactable. To keep players from trolling with bounties to stop normal fishers/miners from doing anything, any vote to decline immediately cancels the bounty prompt. If bounty prompts get spammed, they get incremental cooldown timers before you can initiate another one.

[Leqesai]

19 hours ago, D_Caedus said:

 

Yes it does, throwing any spear into the water will scare everyone's fish around the location where the spear was thrown, whether the spear hit a fish or miss.

I've never noticed other people scaring fish while I am fishing near them.

[DoomFruit]

9 hours ago, Pizzarugi said:

That doesn't solve the problem that is players avoiding the bounty they came to this team for and letting everyone else complete it for them.

Leeches aren't leeching just to be a hindrance to the team that gives nothing back to them. Your solution doesn't disincentivize them from leeching, it just makes them more tolerable to the team as everyone else randomly gets fish and ores/gems.

The solution should be, once a bounty is active, all gem/ore deposits and fishing spots should be hidden or at least non-interactable. To keep players from trolling with bounties to stop normal fishers/miners from doing anything, any vote to decline immediately cancels the bounty prompt. If bounty prompts get spammed, they get incremental cooldown timers before you can initiate another one.

Fair enough. My perspective comes from "get 'free' stuff passively", but I can easily see how if the game scales a bounty for 4 players and only 2 of them are in the area, then the participants could easily get overwhelmed.

The other issue is players joining (or even hosting) a bounty and just standing around at spawn doing nothing, but that's another matter entirely.