(PSN)Rocky_Rozae Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 It’s very unfair that we are being forced to kill a Kuva Lich. I started the mission and didn’t even know what it was. Now the Lich is taking over planets and taking my materials. The missions that he takes over are extremely difficult and high level. We should have an option to quit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GnarlsDarkley Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 1 minute ago, (PS4)Rocky_Rozae said: I started the mission and didn’t even know what it was. Warframe isn't Resident Evil where you blindly press any switch/prompt you see. If you don't know a mechanic in Warframe better ask in chat or consult the Wiki. Lesson hopefully learned :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traumtulpe Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, (PS4)Rocky_Rozae said: I started the mission and didn’t even know what it was. Isn't it nice that your actions have consequences? Isn't it nice, to be able to make mistakes? I think so, though you might disagree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveNot Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 You could just ignore the Lich missions for now and wait until you can properly take it out, or ask for some help in recruiting chat. (side note: Rewards/ "Dragon's treasure" await for you when you kill it [which is really your own rewards that were looted and delayed for no reason and no benefits]) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Skippy575 Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 They added a hold to kill prompt and it's STILL happening? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Madurai-Prime Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 Why'd you interact with the prompt if you didn't know what it was? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeMonkey Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 5 minutes ago, (XB1)Skippy575 said: They added a hold to kill prompt and it's STILL happening? It's not like the system is explained. Mercy killings use the prompt and are a fun little animation, regular finishers use the prompt, chests use the prompt, consoles use the prompt. None of these are "bad". How is someone supposed to know that one particular instance of the prompt creates a Lich that steals resources and makes your life harder, when prior to that it's completely innocuous? Why should anyone fearfully question the prompt as if it's radioactive, when we're taught from the beginning that activating things is fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesseract7777 Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 6 minutes ago, (XB1)Skippy575 said: They added a hold to kill prompt and it's STILL happening? Because to be honest it doesn't give a player who hasn't read up on or watched youtube videos of the system enough explanation to make an informed decision You hear some dialogue from the queens guard thing, then you kill some grineer with a weapon above it's head, the weapon looks cool, do I get the weapon for killing it? Looks like it! Stab! And then you find you don't just get the weapon, you are stuck on this tedious grind with this thing as your nemesis stealing your stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Calliber Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 3 hours ago, (PS4)Rocky_Rozae said: It’s very unfair that we are being forced to kill a Kuva Lich. I started the mission and didn’t even know what it was. Now the Lich is taking over planets and taking my materials. The missions that he takes over are extremely difficult and high level. We should have an option to quit! You have completed War Within, you are not new to this game. Those missions are no more difficult to you than a level 3 sortie (except with Level 5 Lich, then just slightly harder). Here's the efficient way to get rid of it. First, if you are having difficulty, do NOT stab the Lich, just farm murmurs until all mods are revealed. Farm the mods from the relics, you should have a few from the murmur farm (option to trade for the specific ones you need, they go cheap and some people may just be willing to do a 1-for-1 trade on the mods). Once all 3 mods are known and you have them, it's a max 4 stabs to get rid of the Lich, if you're smart about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleQuarterPounder Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 When you start a mission, it gives you an option to do a lich controlled version or just the standard version. The fact that your lich is taking over multiple planets means you've been actively doing those lich missions to piss him off even more. A level 1 lich is pretty harmless and doesn't steal that many materials from you. At that point, it's pretty much your own fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)robotwars7 Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 at this point, the only way they could stop this happening would be to make the process insanely slow with multiple steps, something like: > weapon appears as usual, player stabs > text saying "warning! you are about to create a Lich, a powerful adversary who will take resources from you until you kill it! are you sure you wish to spawn this Lich?" > "are you sure? the Lich will NOT disappear until it has been converted or vanquished!" > type CONFIRM. > usual Lich creation animation plays. for me, and probably others, this would be kind of taking the pi$$, but if it prevents people getting a Lich they don't want, then go for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeMonkey Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 15 minutes ago, (PS4)robotwars7 said: At this point, the only way they could stop this happening would be to make the process insanely slow with multiple steps Only needed for the first time, imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_junguler Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 i only did 1 lich for an ephemera and it was one too many, i feel your pain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vahenir Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 I kind of agree with this one and it should be possible to drop liches. I was nowhere near ready for sortie level stuff when I completed war within myself. All you need to complete that one is basically to run a public match at mot after all. Then the quest itself is like lv20. The liches start at level 50 and trying to do them on public is not really going to work due to the spread out nodes. Which means going to try and find people to help through a public chat somewhere if someone isn't in a clan or with active friends. Then unless someone does go and check the wiki its easy to make the mistake of stabbing the larvling as others have pointed out. Its also easy to stab the lich and actually expecting it to die rather than making it harder. Before long you're stuck with lv90 enemies and a lich that steals large amounts of loot across more than half the system. Then you have to grind to hell and back to not only reveal the requiem mods you need but also to get and open the relics. At least the liches don't steal the relics anymore. So its easily possible to end up with a lich that is basically beyond your ability to kill and if someone is unwilling to go to public chats and go through the huge can of worms that are public groups they may well be stuck with that lich until they get their gear leveled and mods unlocked. So having a way of dropping a lich, even if severely limited, would help with those kinds of situations. Like allow one lich to be dropped per week/month at max or similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)C11H22O11 Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 Does the lich cutscene play after the war within finishes? It should. I personally don't like when games are on the nose about what you're getting into. Make the Lotus mention them or make a kuva lich quest to teach you how to fight the first lich the rest you deal with yourself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acersecomic Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 They steal so little it's shameful really and left me disappointed. I was honestly hoping they steal all of the market resources. I wish we could quit them because then I'D GET AN EMPHEMERA BY NOW!!! I still don't have one even with 1in5 chance... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdpig Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 While I think there should be a way to buy your way out of the Lich, it's been months and it's not happened so it's probably never going to happen. One of the guys I play with thinks level 30 is "high level" and stays down on Saturn and below. Several weeks ago he got a lich playing with me and I had repeatedly told him, "Don't hit X on the larveling" and he did it anyway. I've told him, it will take us an evening or two to collect the mods needed and go kill him, "I'll put him down and you click X on him" and he doesn't want to do it. Oh well, at least he's over on Neptune or Pluto and isn't bothering him that much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Shodian Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 It doesn't take long to kill your lich. Two hours tops. -_- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cha0sWyrM Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 i think its absolutely hysterical and would be deeply deeply disappointed if this was changed. i LOVE seeing these posts. if you made it that far into the game where a lich was even possible....there is no WAY this isnt 100% your own fault. pay attention to the game and what youre doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.Dust Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 7 hours ago, (PS4)Rocky_Rozae said: It’s very unfair that we are being forced to kill a Kuva Lich. I started the mission and didn’t even know what it was. Now the Lich is taking over planets and taking my materials. The missions that he takes over are extremely difficult and high level. We should have an option to quit! How do you accidentally start a lich? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Kakurine2 Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 Dont create the lich in the first place. You are not forced to stab the larva anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesseract7777 Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 1 hour ago, (XB1)Shodian said: It doesn't take long to kill your lich. Two hours tops. -_- Yeah, once you get it down it should really be a pretty fast process, sometimes even quicker if you get lucky. But some players who have completed TWW find the higher level liches intimidating, and that is going to slow them down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monolake Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 Just make the Liches MR10+ already. And give an option to 'bribe' them to leave you alone for like 20k kuva. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)C11H22O11 Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 1 minute ago, Monolake said: Just make the Liches MR10+ already. And give an option to 'bribe' them to leave you alone for like 20k kuva. Or mr 15 like the weapons they give Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-ODIN-SwoleChef Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 kinda weird how yall expect, at minimum, an mr8 to understand every facet of the game when the game itself doesnt explain it to us, he was clearly just curious, no need to bash him on that. Now if im wrong and hes mr12+, then yea going to the wiki should be first priority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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