Traschnas 21 Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 The bile requirements for the Helminth System need to be balanced.. I mean like 3000 Cryotic? That is like 25min just to feed the thing once. And the numbers on the Railjack ressources (in the Helminth) need to be lowered as there no reason to play Railjack at the moment as it has nothing of value to it (sadly). 21 Link to post Share on other sites
CouncilofTheSeven 354 Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 4 minutes ago, ItBeCooly said: could those skins be more... universal? because they're gorgeous but who uses lato or skana also, universal rifle would be super nice and dual wielding all the pistol skins and- I can't upvote/like this comment enough. 11 Link to post Share on other sites
Pandabarrel 218 Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 26 minutes ago, [DE]Megan said: Fixed base Damage using the Health/Shield Damage dealt and not capped at the Health+Shield the target had prior (e.g. enemy with 5 Health gets hit by 100 damage, and 100 damage is shared in AOE. It should just be the 5). Radial damage was never meant to exceed the target’s Health and this was our bad. The desired strategy we wanted was players prioritizing tank units like Heavy Gunners to do AOE clears since heavy units have more Health than normal, thus the radial AOE would likely be lethal, not just normal units. This issue combined with numerous bugs of Mods stacking meant this was way over powered. A key part of reviewing these changes will be ensuring that players understand the best case scenario we envision for the power is targeting high-Health enemies to do radial damage to weaker enemies. Removed Critical Chance from Marked for Death radial AOE. Capped Damage multiplier stat to 75% and normalized Damage type mults. Here’s an example of normalized Damage type: if the Damage you deal is 0.5 Impact, 0.4 Slash, 0.3 Heat that sums to 1.2x but after normalizing they become 0.42 Impact, 0.33 Slash, 0.25 Heat. This is a bad take on a gimmick ability that really only worked on underused, finisher focused frames like Ash and will only further hurt usage rates of those frames. 32 Link to post Share on other sites
quietcanary 814 Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, [DE]Megan said: Capped Damage multiplier stat to 75% ..... You just made it borderline impossible to kill anything with it. No more caps DE this is bullsh1t. Blaming it on the players is a cowards move as well. Edited September 17, 2020 by quietcanary 42 Link to post Share on other sites
Am0r.UA 47 Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 Just now, outseeker said: with respect, I believe avast may be garbage It may be. But still - it is the first Update with virus problem. Link to post Share on other sites
Circle_of_Psi 6,478 Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 27 minutes ago, --Q--Neurofrost said: "Reduced the number of Fish parts required per Daughter Exocrine Assignment from 3 down to 2. This brings Daughters economy in line with Son, where the max number of requested parts is 2." A great addition would be either refunds or compensation for early adopters of the system as large amount of resources were already used. This ^ 7 Link to post Share on other sites
AlphaBankai 63 Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 Great update! Waiting on the balancing of Bile and Railjack components for the Helminth. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
JustAnotherAnon 11 Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 Uhhh... Guys this update deleted my launcher file And I can't verify file integrity via Steam either I'm afraid to re-download files via regular instalator since it will lock me from tennogen, and I will have to do this whole download-reinstall thing all over again 4 Link to post Share on other sites
Dark_Sp00n 177 Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 Thx for the update. No reduction of Helminth empyrean resource requirements yet? No category change for the detonite or fieldron extracts although that category is already stuffed with other convenient resources? Bile category has issues. Maybe add the Severed BILE Sac to its pool? 20 Link to post Share on other sites
outseeker 81 Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 (edited) Just now, Am0r.UA said: It may be. But still - it is the first Update with virus problem. false positive* *edit: unless you have a process running that is infecting files as you download them, in which case that is also not warframe's fault XD Edited September 17, 2020 by outseeker 4 Link to post Share on other sites
Els236 626 Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 After I re-downloaded the whole game on an nVME SSD, I now have another 7GB to download, lol. Good hotfix and content drop, despite the size. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
200BadlySpentPlatinum 48 Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 Can u return the resources i've spent with market for death now you've marked it for death pls? Also a balance on helminth economy would be nice too 10 Link to post Share on other sites
BobbyD 79 Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 7 minutes ago, Ndosbeos said: Not here, because bile is easy to get generally, with somatic fibres being easily obtained on lua, argon being a commonly useless resource people either let decay or spend on things like incubator cores, that you always end up with extra of when you don't need it, cryotic that is useless after you get the sibear, freezing step and anything else that needs it, the sludge stuff you randomly get in fortuna and other stuff i'm forgetting. I still have plenty of bile currently, only feeding the helminth stuff that gives it 30%. There are frames that don't take bile, so subsume those while waiting for your helminth to want bile again. You can't honestly look at all the options that literally every other category has and think Bile is fine. 30 Excavators for enough Cryotic to feed him once isn't worth it at all, especially considering it's the only way you get Cryotic. Somatic Fibres is the same, it's such a niche resource that is only found of 1 kind of enemy in 1 mission on the star chart. Adding things like the Severed BILE Sac or even giving us options for Fish and and Ores/Gems to be fed would vastly improve not only the options for each category, but also make that content not stuck to things you craft from Open World vendors, giving replay-ability to these systems outside of where they are currently isolated. 22 Link to post Share on other sites
vegetosayajin 2,230 Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Xsoskeleton said: Bye ash it was good knowing you I got to play with it a bit, it was awesome solo. Welp >>> 1 minute ago, 200BadlySpentPlatinum said: Can u return the resources i've spent with market for death now you've marked it for death pls? it was a bug, didn't you read, it's not a nerf :D :D :D Edited September 17, 2020 by vegetosayajin 7 Link to post Share on other sites
Vyra 1,503 Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 5 minutes ago, ItBeCooly said: could those skins be more... universal? because they're gorgeous but who uses lato or skana also, universal rifle would be super nice and dual wielding all the pistol skins and- Yeah i wonder, i mean, way more people would buy the Skins if they were universal... If they made the skins UNIVERSAL they would get more $$$ instead of putting that minimal changed skin of necramech behind a platin wall... 4 Link to post Share on other sites
NightmareT12 10,621 Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 Won't judge Marked for Death changes until I test them myself. Also thanks for finally improving the fishing experience on Deimos and the Velocipod skins. Still no fix for: Oberon Prime's back tabard being a) misplaced and b) extra floaty. (It's been going on since the PA released in 2017, come on guys :( ) Sybaris Prime's horns not animating properly (same as above, since release) The Silva Prime being misplaced when holstered Equinox's Noble Animation not playing the proper rifle idles Thanks for your time as always 😄 4 Link to post Share on other sites
kuryux 731 Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 3 minutes ago, HunterDigi said: Never had that happen... you sure you played them in the same worm time (vome/fass)? Yeap, happens often...also, sometimes the cycle changes...and it moves on to next tier anyway. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
arkadikos213 87 Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 Wait ?! Why there is no fix to endless bounties on deimos? Excavators don't give criotyk or anything else and there is no bonus reward after doing 1 round perfect (6 excavators survive). After doing it 12-15 round reward aren't granted. And amber star have 50% drop chance nothing else have 50% drop chance every round. There is no reason to have 50% chance on amber star, we have blueprint from arbitrations, requim relics and normal missions as source of amber stars. Unless we get something to create from those amber stars, but right now it just sad :( 24 Link to post Share on other sites
HeartPurity 733 Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 VELOCIPOD K-DRIVE SKINS cheersssss👍 1 Link to post Share on other sites
-ER-Nosferatuu 228 Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 I'm just gonna stop experimenting with Helminth system. Whatever is marginally good will get nerfed and whatever investment players made ignored. Content best played after 1-2 updates when old content get forgotten. 34 Link to post Share on other sites
MisterKeng 42 Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 27 minutes ago, [DE]Megan said: Marked for Death Changes: - Removed Marked for Death from Helminth Abilities. 37 Link to post Share on other sites
xJHSxChirris 7 Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 They should lower the prices of the luxury designs when you buy only the skin, to be able to acquire it later without having to pay for the skin again. 7 Link to post Share on other sites
...huh 63 Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 I farmed A LOT of daughter tokens before this hotfix, and I used way more resources than they cost now. Can we get those fish parts back now? 4 Link to post Share on other sites
aliguana23 11 Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 RIP the best warframe power since launch. DE giveth, and DE taketh away 3 Link to post Share on other sites
BobbyD 79 Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 1 minute ago, Vyra said: Yeah i wonder, i mean, way more people would buy the Skins if they were universal... If they made the skins UNIVERSAL they would get more $$$ instead of putting that minimal changed skin of necramech behind a platin wall... ONE universal rifle skin would be nice. 7 Link to post Share on other sites
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