Daily Standing Caps need to go

[Ultraaaa]

This game is no-longer some small free to play game. It does not need to pull cheap tricks like gating progress to keep us playing for longer to retain it's playerbase.

I understand they exist to stop people from blowing through content quickly... But after reaching the cap, my friends go off to play Destiny 2 which pulls no BS like this. I've been joining them recently and every time we go back to Warframe and reach that cap its like man this game sucks. The worst thing is that because my friends are new to the game, their Daily Caps are smaller than mine. They reach their cap much faster than I do which means our progress is different and that just sucks.

If people want to blast through content and enjoy it all like it's food and they haven't eaten in days then why not let them? Drawing things out diminishes excitement. Every time we come back the game feels a little more exhausting...

Today I literally logged on and turned in some gems for standing and reached my daily cap. Guess I'm not playing today then! I mean if DE wants us go play other games then I guess Standing Caps are perfect! I would like to unlock Heists in Fortuna. I would like to acquire Little Duck's Hildryn BP... Every time I reach the cap I am less excited to get the things I want. It's not like I can keep grinding slowly.. It's literally a dead end. Come back tomorrow! Or not if you realize while waiting that this hamster wheel is far too grindy to bother with and there are a lot of good games on the horizon!

I'm MR17 and got these dudes to try Warframe while waiting for Destiny 2's Beyond Light DLC. Every time I have to explain to them S#&$ like Standing Caps I start with, "well you see, DE want you to hate their game...", and I can tell they are getting fed up with it.

[Miser_able]

12 minutes ago, LykaJoss said:

 my friends go off to play Destiny 2 which pulls no BS like this\

no, they just pull worse BS light light level caps

[NekroArts]

Worrying about syndicate standing is the least of their concerns, majority of their progress and activity is outside of it. For them to just leave because they hit cap really tells me that they didn't know what the game had in store for them.

[GnarlsDarkley]

31 minutes ago, LykaJoss said:

If people want to blast through content and enjoy it all like it's food and they haven't eaten in days then why not let them?

Because we could farm unlimited Relics without effort and way faster

[(PSN)Hikuro-93]

Sure thing. Then be ready for a huge reduction of the standing gain rate. Or an even worse counter measure.

On the same note, tried Destiny for a good while. Stuck with Warframe because it doesn't pull the same kind of bs Destiny does. Same for pretty much all live service games, depite them not being "bad", per se. And on the same note, Destiny is paid and has microtransactions. Warframe is free and its only revenue source are those microtransactions and the way they manage their player's playing time.

DE isn't perfect by any means, but to compare WF with Destiny as far as player management strategies go, it's a bit unreasonable.

[Ultraaaa]

18 minutes ago, NekroArts said:

Worrying about syndicate standing is the least of their concerns, majority of their progress and activity is outside of it. For them to just leave because they hit cap really tells me that they didn't know what the game had in store for them.

I wasn't talking about Syndicate Standing. I'm talking about the open world standing that you have to max out to be able to take part in Heists.

[Ultraaaa]

2 minutes ago, (PS4)Hikuro-93 said:

Sure thing. Then be ready for a huge reduction of the standing gain rate. Or an even worse counter measure.

On the same note, tried Destiny for a good while. Stuck with Warframe because it doesn't pull the same kind of bs Destiny does. Same for pretty much all live service games, depite them not being "bad", per se.

Would be totally fine with a reduction in standing gain rate. At least then we can keep playing and making progress instead of logging off because no matter what you do, you can't progress the thing you want to progress.

[DrivaMain]

I would rather they implement more time gates like standing caps instead of more multi layer RNG bullcrap in progression. Standing cap is there to stop no lifers complete the game in less than an hour and complain to the forums. 
 

[NekroArts]

4 minutes ago, LykaJoss said:

I wasn't talking about Syndicate Standing. I'm talking about the open world standing that you have to max out to be able to take part in Heists.

And they're still syndicates, in the profile screen under "Syndicates" tab they're listed there.

[Ultraaaa]

2 minutes ago, NekroArts said:

And they're still syndicates, in the profile screen under "Syndicates" tab they're listed there.

Bro, you shouldn't need this to be explained to you. The game might list them as Syndicates but lets be real, they are not the same as Syndicates. You can't slap on a Sigil and earn reputation. The OG Syndicates don't lock you out of game modes... The importance of earning rep in the open worlds is much higher than the OG Syndicates, especially in Fortuna.

[(XBOX)Rez090]

56 minutes ago, LykaJoss said:

my friends go off to play Destiny 2 which pulls no BS like this.

BullS#&$, Destiny 2 forces you to pay silver to access the premium ranks of each season, which are "REQUIRED" to even play any of that seasons' content. Great example is the Rasputin bunkers they introduced earlier in the year. Free pass users LITERALLY only got to walk inside the bunkers and do ABSO#*!%INGLUTELY nothing in them. You had to PAY to actually even use the damn bunkers. Bungie just even vaulted half the damn game because they claim they can't handle everything in the game.

[NekroArts]

3 minutes ago, LykaJoss said:

Bro, you shouldn't need this to be explained to you. The game might list them as Syndicates but lets be real, they are not the same as Syndicates. You can't slap on a Sigil and earn reputation. The OG Syndicates don't lock you out of game modes... The importance of earning rep in the open worlds is much higher than the OG Syndicates, especially in Fortuna.

But they follow similar rules with each that puts them under the same umbrella - 5 tiers of ranks, same cap on each rank, rewards and items locked behind each rank, sacrificial offerings to rank up. The important thing about them for new players is that they should not set them as a priority, majority of progress comes from the Star Chart.

You said they're new, it's not ideal for them to focus on getting to those heist as those rewards are barely going to get them stronger. If they ever reach the Profit Taker Heist with the way they're play the game they're going to get trashed in that boss fight.