Arbitrations are so GOOD NOW

[189285477593849]

So, after the helpful, positive feedback I got from making this post I think arbitrations are too rewarding and REALLY need to be nerfed. 900 ENDO for 5 mins of survival for example with a booster on??? Madness!! It should be around 20 endo every hour or two hours. Also, I think adaptation should be rewarded only after the 3 hour mark for Interception and ONLY if your solo. Vitus Essence should drop once per 10 arbitrations the player does and no more than 1 per 10 games played. DE is really hurting themselves by rewarding us so heavily for this game mode.

Special thanks to the completely non-toxic at all and supportive community here at warframe forums.

[Hokibukisa]

1 minute ago, xan7757 said:

with a team comp of Nekros, Nidus, Wisp, and Khora

... oookay

[KitMeHarder]

13 minutes ago, xan7757 said:

And correct me if im wrong but Adaptation used to drop from enemies

It didn't

[trst]

So Arbitrations are bad because they're an Endo farm that is worse than a different farm that requires four coordinated people with specific meta farming builds while at the same time you also say Arbis are bad due to uncoordinated pub players.

ok.

Arbis are an Endo farm and the non Endo rewards include more than just Adaptation. If you don't have use for the other rewards then sell them to buy Adaptation, it isn't even that expensive anymore.

[189285477593849]

2 minutes ago, trst said:

So Arbitrations are bad because they're an Endo farm that is worse than a different farm that requires four coordinated people with specific meta farming builds while at the same time you also say Arbis are bad due to uncoordinated pub players.

ok.

Arbis are an Endo farm and the non Endo rewards include more than just Adaptation. If you don't have use for the other rewards then sell them to buy Adaptation, it isn't even that expensive anymore.

You missed the point completely, and went immediately to being toxic and negative, I will surely value your feedback.

 

[TheGuyver]

Just now, xan7757 said:

You missed the point completely, and went immediately to being toxic and negative, I will surely value your feedback.

 

Just because you didn't like what they have to say, doesn't make it toxic. It's legitimate advice.

[Ragnafiro]

Ever tried Arbitration excavation or disruption? Fastest modes for reward rotations and ever since SP Ophelia and Vodyanoi exist for the best Kuva and Endo farm respectively, those Arbitration modes makes it that you can farm indirect Kuva, Endo, mods like Adaptation or Aerodynamic, and Arcane Tanker or Arcane Pistoleer, all in one gameplay session.

[Chandoh]

To be completely fair I think he chose not to have anything positive to say. Your article has some good points in it with the projectiles and that Arbitrations are pretty well pointless to do anyway. Better farms exist even without coordinated teams. With endo being the reason you run them it should be the most efficient way to earn that currency. Could you imagine the index paying out 50% profit? You wouldn't waste your time.

As @Ragnafiro mentions Excav does put out GOOD rewards for endo... but thats not always the option youre given. Your good farming method relies solely on RNG to even queue for. If you don't get it then just don't bother? Whats the point in the other modes? Should they be scaled up to double the rewards every 5 minutes/Rounds for longer for grinding?

Overall there is some misinformation but your point is received. Its a harder farm for less rewards than alternatives available and not much else enticing the loot pool.

[189285477593849]

It's almost like there's an insider Forum mafia dedicated to extinguishing threads before they have a chance to be acknowledged in a genuine attempt to improve game modes that are relatively empty. To what, avoid the effort of fixing these modes? 

[Ster]

13 minutes ago, xan7757 said:

went immediately to being toxic and negative

wait... what ? how is this reply toxic ? It's more of a TL:DR

[Chandoh]

@xan7757 I'm just being impartial and giving you my opinion too. I agree with a lot of what you said, just not all of it. Nothing wrong with that  though.

[Chandoh]

3 minutes ago, Ster said:

wait... what ? how is this reply toxic ? It's more of a TL:DR

This isn't helpful. Use the context he's given you and see it from a perspective except the one under the bridge.

[Luciole77]

Arbitrations is for experienced players with tank frames like inaros/grendel/atlas....

Remember....using skills there are not effective because drones. So...the best way to stay alive is using tank frames. Forget skills for loot...dont work on drones.

[(XBOX)ECCHO SIERRA]

29 minutes ago, xan7757 said:

You missed the point completely, and went immediately to being toxic and negative, I will surely value your feedback.

 

0 posts.

Your first post is a rant. 

And perfectly valid criticism of said rant (because its dumb) is "toxic and negative". 

 

The irony.

[(XBOX)ECCHO SIERRA]

18 minutes ago, xan7757 said:

It's almost like there's an insider Forum mafia dedicated to extinguishing threads before they have a chance to be acknowledged in a genuine attempt to improve game modes that are relatively empty. To what, avoid the effort of fixing these modes? 

or, and hear me out here...

 

Its almost like feedback meant to actually change the game somehow goes in a different subforum and your "argument" is based on assumptions that other people dont necessarily agree with. 

 

Like, for example, that its fair to compare a dedicated team comp in one activity to randoms in another, or that because you couldnt get adaptation fast enough the game mode sucks. Or something. Idk i stopped paying attention.

[superiouz]

Arbitration have so much offer. Aura Mod, arcane, riven, endo, grendel, and cosmetic. 

I agree if u ONLY want endo there is better place to that.

Btw arbitration used to be 2x longer than normal mission to get the reward. Ex. Wave 10 defend. And pls dont bring this back. 

Exalted weapon can cheese the purpose of arbitration. Like for example. Mesa. And yes it will be funny but what the point of arbitration if this just like normal mission? 

I do arbitration just for vitus essence. And its guaranteed reward. Any reward is just bonus for me. 

[Yagamilight123]

hace 31 minutos, xan7757 dijo:

It's almost like there's an insider Forum mafia dedicated to extinguishing threads before they have a chance to be acknowledged in a genuine attempt to improve game modes that are relatively empty. To what, avoid the effort of fixing these modes? 

So anyone that its not on board with your incoherent thread is "toxic" ? ... nice argument , no wonder you came up with this thread .

[(XBOX)Kuhl MC]

Hmm, I personally think, that arbitrations have a lot of stuff to offer and even if you got it all, it's an alternative way to farm some Kuva from time to time. I wish, ESO had the same longevity and variety of rewards; this gamemode is dead in comparison (and therefore needs an overhaul imo).

[Duality52]

1 hour ago, xan7757 said:

worst rewards by an unbelievably high margin now. I just spend 40 minutes in a survival, which is locked to a "reward" every 5 minutes, u know what i left with? An ayatan statue and about 5000 Endo. We get statues here and there in missions and the weekly mars one so thats pretty meh, and to boot you can make about 3000 endo in <3 minutes by farming YODYANOI - SEDNA

You're getting more than Endo: Vitus Essences. Vitus Essences can be used for Kuva and the Archgun Rivens in case you have exhausted the Honors shop of any cosmetics, mods, or Grendel.

Arbitrations Survival and Defense aren't that bad as the Drone density is fairly large, which can help with Vitus Essence drops.

 

[KIREEK]

Mate, most of the endo you gather comes from the mods, not from the endo rewards or the statue rewards

Instead of selling the mods for plat, simply trade them for filled ayatan statues, many players will easily trade 3 to 5 filled ayatan statues for a single mod.

[(XBOX)C11H22O11]

1 hour ago, xan7757 said:

It's almost like there's an insider Forum mafia dedicated to extinguishing threads before they have a chance to be acknowledged in a genuine attempt to improve game modes that are relatively empty. To what, avoid the effort of fixing these modes? 

This is general discussion not feedback. If you wanted to suggest things then go to feedback

[BDMblue]

1 hour ago, xan7757 said:

It's almost like there's an insider Forum mafia dedicated to extinguishing threads before they have a chance to be acknowledged in a genuine attempt to improve game modes that are relatively empty. To what, avoid the effort of fixing these modes? 

In every game you have those who defend the status quo no matter what it is. It can be the most backward unfun thing, but they defend it because it was 1st.

[189285477593849]

=D

[schilds]

Survival could do with some improvements. It's a fairly bland and slow game mode. Steel Path increases the enemy density quite a bit, at least, which helps make it feel a bit more active, but doesn't make it any faster :-P.

[189285477593849]

 I think we should not have rewards anymore in any game mode. I think we should be happy with what we where given so far, and the rewards stop for everyone it would be more rewarding.