Mission "wall" new(ish) player

[(NSW)Farflight]

Relatively new to warframe, mastery rank 8 new. I've started hitting some more challenging missions in the sedna and pluto regions. 

At this point, do I keep forma'ing and grinding my weapons and frames up? Grinding for/opening relics? Just looking for some guidance.

 

In regards to syndicates/factions, would y'all recommend focusing on the warring factions or skip straight to deimos content?

 

Thanks in advance!

[(NSW)Reason]

Your mod collection needs serious work. Join a clan beg for handouts. Do corrupted vault runs. Farm serious Endo

[pan.ini]

If you have broken war (you should), it is an excellent melee weapon, better then broken staff. As it comes with an orokin catalyst preinstalled, you have room for lots of mods.

Gun wise, kitguns shred. It takes some time and formas to get a good one, but then you have very reliable weapon.

Oh, and build Redeemer if you don't have it already. It will prove useful for MR9 test. You can also prepare yourself for Lesion at MR9 as it's a really great melee weapon. It requires to build Bo and Tipedo before, that you can level to 30. Mod it with pressure point, or condition overload if you have it, quickening, 2 or 3 60/60 mods, and you'll have a great blender at no additional cost.

 

[FreeWilliam]

MR8's around the time I started to stretch my wings a little and learn how to be good at playing MY way rather than just trying to get insights from other people's builds.

There's a lot of ways to play this game, different ways to kill mobs, and you can even have identical builds that two players play completely differently.

Even just one aspect (melee) can have a crazy number of different playstyles. Some people are really into heavy attack builds. Some of us really like specific stances. Lots of us have weapons that aren't THAT powerful but do the job just fine and we love the heck out of playing with them.

For advice, I think maybe if you just explored the game and paid attention to what sort of things got you really paying attention/salivating/ and/or gigglesnorting. You can REALLY lean into what you like best in this game and I personally think that's part of what makes it so good.

[(NSW)BalticBarbarian]

2 minutes ago, (NSW)Farflight said:

I'll look into the market, I figured (apparently incorrectly) that the market was mainly end game stuff or for heavy platinum purchase

Market contains a lot of blueprints for essential gear. Almost every basic Warframe blueprint is on the market (for credits), so are blueprints for most non-prime weapons. It always (very helpfully) gives you the option to buy the same stuff already built and for plat, but it is best to ignore that option and farm stuff normally (with a few exceptions). If anything, it's the more obscure weapons that you don't see on the market - not the basic ones.

Go browse the Weapons category on the market. There's lots of stuff and you'll find something you might like.

8 minutes ago, (NSW)Farflight said:

I've got fragor, just a bit too slow for my taste

It is slow, but that can be (partly) remedied with mods. You will, however, be able to do a lot more damage per hit with a Fragor than you will with Broken War (given equivalent mods). And knockback can be useful if you're not one-shotting enemies yet. Not saying Fragor is the best weapon in the game (it is not) - but it can be useful in certain situations.

[NinjaZeku]

1 hour ago, (NSW)Farflight said:

As far as primary weapon choices: I've got the following,

Boltor, gorgon, strun, dread, penta, and drakgoon

You seem to mainly have / use weapons you got as drops, what's up with that?

Did none of the weapons from the Market, and also Clan Research, catch your eye?

Like, you are aware that the Market isn't just for Plat purchases, right?
It's where you get lotsa Blueprints for Credits, as well.

# edit # heh, guessed right :P

[(NSW)Farflight]

37 minutes ago, (NSW)BalticBarbarian said:

As far as gear is concerned: explore a bit more, try more different things. At MR8 you should have access to many very good weapons. My personal recommendations would be Tigris and Sobek - both are really good shotguns, both available at MR7 from the Market (as blueprints). For melee weapons, have a look at Lacera, Kronen, Lecta, Amphis and Fragor (although the last one is a questionable choice).

I'll look into the market, I figured (apparently incorrectly) that the market was mainly end game stuff or for heavy platinum purchase (trying to limit my plat to slots). I've got fragor, just a bit too slow for my taste, probably gonna go back to broken war.

I guess one of my misconceptions was that I'd get weapons in mission like in other games. 

Gonna peruse the market and get back to getting through my quests and missions.

[(NSW)BalticBarbarian]

On 2020-09-29 at 11:37 PM, (NSW)Farflight said:

Yea, I've been grinding Sedna Hydron like a mofo!

Do NOT grind Hydron. For now, forget it even exists! You'll spend plenty of time on it later on.

Go do some actual missions! What are the missions you are currently having trouble with? Go do the same mission type on earlier planets! In a lot of situations, you can compensate for being undergeared by knowing how the mission works.

As far as gear is concerned: explore a bit more, try more different things. At MR8 you should have access to many very good weapons. My personal recommendations would be Tigris and Sobek - both are really good shotguns, both available at MR7 from the Market (as blueprints). For melee weapons, have a look at Lacera, Kronen, Lecta, Amphis and Fragor (although the last one is a questionable choice).

If you can afford them, build and try some other frames too: Nidus s good, but having a wider repertoire of available frames will make certain missions easier. And leveling them up will raise your MR, granting access to better weapons.

For mods: upgrading them helps. A lot. As a priority, make sure to upgrade the Auras/Stances you are using: that will actually give your weapons/frames MORE mod capacity, so you can fit other mods in more easily.

[(NSW)Farflight]

I definitely am listening to what I'm reading here. I'll get more detailed info on my weapons at some point today/this weekend.

I'll switch back to broken war over the scepter. Might switch back to hydroid prime as my main mission frame.

As far as primary weapon choices: I've got the following,

Boltor, gorgon, strun, dread, penta, and drakgoon

I can almost build a braton prime and paris prime (need 9 orokin cells and grip respectively).

 

[OrionHisSon]

On 2020-09-29 at 5:27 PM, (NSW)Farflight said:

Relatively new to warframe, mastery rank 8 new. I've started hitting some more challenging missions in the sedna and pluto regions. 

At this point, do I keep forma'ing and grinding my weapons and frames up? Grinding for/opening relics? Just looking for some guidance.

 

In regards to syndicates/factions, would y'all recommend focusing on the warring factions or skip straight to deimos content?

 

Thanks in advance!

What is your current frame? Weapons? 

Don't forma your starting/training weapons (I'm a crazy nut), as they have direct upgrades. Build status effects to make your life easier.

If it hasn't changed, you only need to be MR 5 to unlock all the story missions (correct me if I'm wrong). Your MR doesn't get you through tough spots on the starchart.

[(PSN)action3500]

I am relatively new (MR13) and only started to forma recently. Most of my frames/weapons are not polarized and I have no problem doing daily sorties. It's all in the build, gotta combine proper mods and have them upgraded. Additionally, you have to install Orokin reactors.  For solo/story progression try to get a tanky frame, like Innaros, Wukong, etc. with good melee weapon for DPS, primary and secondary are not so important. I've been using Lesion as my go-to melee with elementary build from overframe.

[DeckChairVonBananaCamel]

is there any chance you can show us some examples of weapon/frame builds you are using? There might be something in how you are setting up your gear that is hampering you.

[NinjaZeku]

16 hours ago, (NSW)Farflight said:

latter maps (rec. level 30+)

There's no such thing as "recommended" levels (wouldn't work what with Mods making our power vary wildly), it's just enemy levels.

16 hours ago, (NSW)Farflight said:

mastery rank 8 [...] sedna [...] Boltor

Boltor is kind of a beginner weapon you should've replaced at this point.

At MR8, you could e.g. look into ...

Acceltra
Fulmin
Lenz
Sobek (with Acid Shells Augment)

Akarius
Atomos
Pandero
Plinx

plus Kitguns if you've invested some time into Fortuna.

[vegetosayajin]

13 hours ago, (NSW)Farflight said:

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So first of all everything else is ok-ish but nidus needs to gather stacks as fast as possible and needs a lot of enemies to do so at first, but with the mods you described you shouldn't have a problem with survivability even in fast missions(try to level them more and get rid of flame repellent and put something else that's useful like more armour, range or even thief's whit) . Try to roll more(rolling gives you damage reduction). Don't stand in place in a group of enemies that shoot you while you shoot only one person.
The second suggestion is replace the Scepter with broken war or even with something like the guandao - give it crit and damage mods+ viral combo and range+speed. It's a much better weapon(mine just destroys lv150+ in seconds, but you might not have all the mods for it yet) Doesn't matter if you have a stance for it or not it will still kill way more faster.
The good mods are now in deimos bounties and the nodes on deimos themselves in the hidden vaults.
But for lv30-50 you don't need any special mods tbh, the common one are enough by far.

 

13 hours ago, (NSW)Farflight said:

Since starting this thread I've started working on cracking relics for BPs and components for weapons and started trying to unlock helminth segment to sacrifice unused frames as someone said it granted Mastery Rank exp (and it would clear out some frame space)

I'll say it again, you choose if you want to believe me or not. Mods are the most important things in this game by far. It doesn't matter if you are mr1 or mr29 if you don't have the mods and know how to mod exactly you will struggle.
As for "What mods do I need and how to get them?" Check builds on youtube for the weapon/frame you want to use, see what mods you lack and then just find where and how they drop(wf wiki).
In this current time there are very very few mods that are hard to get and you don't need most of them.
 

[(NSW)Farflight]

11 hours ago, vegetosayajin said:

First of all what is the "wall" issue in detail?
I mean do you lack survivability? Do you lack damage? Both? Is it a specific mission or mission type?
No matter what is it tho "new" weapons and frames will help to some extend but remember - mods and modding is the most important thing in this game. If you don't own the mods and/or don't know where to put them exactly you will struggle.

the "wall" issue is on some of these latter maps (rec. level 30+) is a combo of some survivability and damage lack.

I run best on nidus: Physique R5, Intesify R3, Rush R5, Stretch R5, Vitailty R8, Steel fiber R7, Flame Repellent R5, Enemy Sense R3, Flow R5

Weapons: 

Boltor (MR3): grinding it up to put my higher drain mods in

Broken Scepter: Clashing Forest R0, Shocking Touch R5, Molten Impact R5, Vicious Frost R3, Heavy Trauma R3, Pressure Point R5, Fever Strike R0, Melee Prowess R5, Fury R5

Companion is deathcube that I only forma'ed once

Since starting this thread I've started working on cracking relics for BPs and components for weapons and started trying to unlock helminth segment to sacrifice unused frames as someone said it granted Mastery Rank exp (and it would clear out some frame space)

All of my mods have really been from mission drops so far

 

[vegetosayajin]

First of all what is the "wall" issue in detail?
I mean do you lack survivability? Do you lack damage? Both? Is it a specific mission or mission type?
No matter what is it tho "new" weapons and frames will help to some extend but remember - mods and modding is the most important thing in this game. If you don't own the mods and/or don't know where to put them exactly you will struggle.

 

9 hours ago, (NSW)Farflight said:

In regards to syndicates/factions, would y'all recommend focusing on the warring factions or skip straight to deimos content?

Deimos isn't going anywhere, I suggest to not F.O.M.O. yourself too much, because when you grind all the things it's a barren wasteland, take it slow and learn what you want/need from the game at any time and grind for it one thing at a time.
You will have a much better time if you don't fast forward the game.

[(NSW)Reason]

You need to finish the star chart and unlock arbitrations so you can farm endo. You can do any content in this game with the exception of maybe the steel path with any weapon as long as you have the correct build and all the pips filled in. Start doing corrupted vault runs and make sure you have all the necessary corrupted mods. Pick a few meta weapons and look on overframe.gg and copy a few builds to get started. At MR 8 I'd go for a fulmin primary, it's an OP weapon. 

But at the end of the day, you could have the most OP weapon available and be MR 29 and you still won't kill anything if your serration is only half full.

 

[(NSW)Farflight]

16 minutes ago, Captain_Rocket505 said:

I recommend grinding a little, so you can get decent weapons. Personal recommendations include baza prime, trumna (from deimos), kuva nukor and bramma (both lich weapons which might be out of your league right now)

Yea, I've been grinding Sedna Hydron like a mofo!

Sounds like I should grind hydron, crack relics, and try to craft some weapons.

[Sintag]

I'd get to Hydron.  Then, take a long look at what you can acquire and level anything you can.  Hydron's one of the best farm nodes in the game for levelling stuff up and out, so if you have a bunch of sub-standard stuff, level it and sell it off. 

I'd also start cracking Relics. While you don't have access to the best Primes yet, what you can get your hands on equates to quite a lot of stuff, especially the Warframes.  If you're missing any base frames, double back and farm those out.  Not only will you have more playstyles open to you, you'll also have more frames to Subsume into Helminth, 6,000 Mastery per frame, and an idea on how you should build for each of them.

[Captain_Rocket505]

I recommend grinding a little, so you can get decent weapons. Personal recommendations include baza prime, trumna (from deimos), kuva nukor and bramma (both lich weapons which might be out of your league right now)

[(XBOX)Greenguy5000]

you can do faction stuff while doing deimos, since you just have to wear their sigil to get their standing