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An Update on Updates: October Edition


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5 minutes ago, (XB1)Greenguy5000 said:

i definately would not expect anything new war while working from home is in place

geoff said that whilst working from home was in full swing so idk at least i would want them to be transparent on that its not being put in full whilst working from home is in place 

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First of all: Thanks for the heads up Rebecca. You guys really didn't have to do it, but it's great to see you commit to the playerbase.

Second:

25 minutes ago, [DE]Rebecca said:

We are getting more and more support to make this remote thing work -- but honestly Tenno, it’s tough. We’re doing our best and identifying what works, and what doesn’t. Thank you for sticking around as we figure that out. 

Indeed. Things look like it will take a long, long time before anywhere in the world can go back to normal. Which can be exasperating. I'm pretty sure the worst part isn't even the work or the lack of office per hardware, but rather not seeing the people you work with everyday -- at least it's starting to take a toll here.

Update wise for Warframe I'm just hoping some key parts of the office can be used (ie: mocap) when needed if the conditions allow for it. But otherwise I'd rather have you guys take your time with updates so quality > quantity.

Stay safe out there everyone.

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1 minute ago, Sean said:

Please just look into ending Nightwave in its current form.

It simply doesn't work and DE itself has had a bad track record of content that requires consistent updates and maintenance; Nightwave isn't the first in that regard by a long-shot.

 

  • Remove the "story" that ends up not meaning much and is barely remembered.
    • People would rather have things like New War, and other "proper" story content.
  • Remove Nora from Nightwave, she's honestly just annoying and doesn't add anything meaningful.
    • Surprised that we still don't have a way to mute her constant & useless popups at the very least.
  • Have NW be a simple "Do a Challenge" -> "Get NW Credits"
    • This way the system is streamlined and then can have all the other items thrown into a NW Store that simply rotates with new items.
      • Obviously the items would need to have major cost-adjustments.
    • No more "Ranks" for NW that only adds clutter to the system.
  • Can then theme the "Store Items" around certain major WF events.

I understand that some in the community are not NW fans, but I do wish you guys would not act like everyone hates it. I enjoy NW. I enjoy the stories. I actually de remember them and the little bits of lore that they add to the game world. That being said, they are not perfect.

I agree that at this point, I would like to mute Nora. I love her character, but since we have been getting the same voice lines from her for a while, it's kinda tiresom at this point.

I like the ranks personally, what I don't like is the cap. DE seems to end up extending it anyway, so just get rid of the rank cap. We should be able to keep earning crystal creds as long as the NW season is open. It causes issues if someone uses all their creds, can't earn more till a new season starts, but then ends up needing niatain or something like that.

Adding more themed items to the shop would be fun. Us long time players have most if not all of what is in there already. There have been a few new things added, but I would like to see more. Even if it's just cosmetics and/or ship/dojo decorations. Something that does not take to much time from the development of the big updated like New War and what not, but something new to work at getting.

 

I would also like to add for the OP that part of the reason that the big story updates are delayed has nothing to do with NW. If they can't work in the office, they have no access to the mocap. They have stated more then once that the lack of ability to mo-cap is what has delayed the bigger story updates. Right now they are working on small things to keep things fresh while they try to figure out how to do things at home that they never thought they would have to. No one plans for a pandemic after all.

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11 minutes ago, (PS4)BlightDragon89 said:

I understand that some in the community are not NW fans, but I do wish you guys would not act like everyone hates it. I enjoy NW. I enjoy the stories. I actually de remember them and the little bits of lore that they add to the game world. That being said, they are not perfect.

 

Purely the fact that DE has been unable to consistently update Nightwave in a timely manner since NW1 is the core issue.

They used to do regular events that weren't just copy/pastes from the previous year. Sorties were supposed to have seasons before DE was unable to maintain that properly as it also required consistent updates and schedules. So... yeah... their history doesn't make this look good. Doesn't mean they can't make good content, but just sticking to a schedule has always been their week area.

They bloat what was supposed to just be a replacement for Alerts (which it really isn't even that) with story elements that only makes each season take longer and longer, which then hurts other areas of the game, like New War.

 

11 minutes ago, (PS4)BlightDragon89 said:

I like the ranks personally, what I don't like is the cap. DE seems to end up extending it anyway, so just get rid of the rank cap. We should be able to keep earning crystal creds as long as the NW season is open. It causes issues if someone uses all their creds, can't earn more till a new season starts, but then ends up needing niatain or something like that.

 

 

And simply doing Challenges to get Credits to then buy Nitain Extract would then solve that.

The ranks ultimately are just extra steps in this system.

Those same items given for a rank could be IN the store itself and be part of what rotates out every-so-often, but just at prices that make sense.

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16 minutes ago, Cyba_Zero said:

I have one question: given the extended nature of the current Nightwave and the fact that Xaku is now the newest frame in the roster, please is there any chance of seeing Protea's alt helmet BPs added into the cred store rotation for Glassmaker?

Both Protea's alt helmets have been added int the cred store a while back. I know because I've built them already. And wiki says as much.

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31 minutes ago, killrob2 said:

As much as i like this transparency it also gives me a bit of worry for whats happening with the new war IK its all technically started en all but each devstream im just seeing more and more stuff that seems like its pushing it further and further back, what i would like would be to know the process on whats happening with its development as a story arc as we have had nothing said on it since that devstream ages ago, where geoff said you guys were committing to the year of the new war and were little over 2 months out till the end of the year.

They need the motion capture equipment of the studio to finish the next part of the New War, so it was put on hold (confirmed several weeks ago in a devstream). They can't finish it until they get back to their normal offices (Doesn't mean they aren't development the rest of New War like assets and models, but we don't know their priority). Deimos and other updates were most likely in development for some time now, so they focused on these because they could be finished from their home offices.

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3 minutes ago, HolySeraphin said:

They need the motion capture equipment of the studio to finish the next part of the New War, so it was put on hold (confirmed several weeks ago in a devstream). They can't finish it until they get back to their normal offices (Doesn't mean they aren't development the rest of New War like assets and models, but we don't know their priority). Deimos and other updates were most likely in development for some time now, so they focused on these because they could be finished from their home offices. For example, Fortuna was in development for about 2 years, if I'm not mistaken.

my main problem with it is there isn't any transparency with it and yea ik the whole mocap situation has slowed it down but geoff even said it him self if they NEED to use mocap they can but ofc need to take the extra steps due to covid, doesn't help with steve joking about the new war not being here whilst not saying anything on where its at and it just feel like this is gonna be another 2019 where at the last min they say its not coming this year which would most likely mean duviri isn't next year. all i was is just transparency with it instead of being lead along a path to nowhere.

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Thanks for the update, we appreciate what you do and transparency is very good :)

Also, please remove Telos Boltace from conclave, I don't like spending most of the match in the skybox!

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48 minutes ago, Cyba_Zero said:

Kudos to DE for keeping things going despite a very unexpected and difficult few months. Hope you all stay healthy.

 

I have one question: given the extended nature of the current Nightwave and the fact that Xaku is now the newest frame in the roster, please is there any chance of seeing Protea's alt helmet BPs added into the cred store rotation for Glassmaker?

They already have been added before, they just haven't rotated back in awhile

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I just hope that you will ship Railjack Revisited Parts 2 and 3 this year and will make Kuva Liches actually useful and interesting to recruit - otherwise, they're just glorified grind for weapons, that will be abandoned, after players get every weapon they've wanted.

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1 hour ago, [DE]Rebecca said:

We still have quite a bit planned for October - even if city block power outages prevent us from hitting those plans on the exact dates (because working from home wasn’t hard enough as is)! 

I hope people aren't blaming you guys for these conditions (Work-From-Home) and particularly those power outrages. The latter is out of your guys' control. No pressure, take your time on the Glassmaker Finale and Deimos Arcana while always keeping us informed about the progress. The transparency is much appreciated.

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2 hours ago, [DE]Rebecca said:

Hello all!

October is ticking away. Today we bring all Tenno an update on what we’re up to behind the scenes is an important way to help you plan the chilly fall days ahead (or warmer days depending where you are)!

We still have quite a bit planned for October - even if city block power outages prevent us from hitting those plans on the exact dates (because working from home wasn’t hard enough as is)! 

First, the big one: Where is the Glassmaker?

All platforms are waiting for that finale, and it’s coming (hold the eye-rolls)! As with all things Nightwave this year, it’s taken a while. We know it. Nora knows we know it. We’ll have the finale out soon, it’ll last long enough to give as many Tenno a chance to play it in the context of the season, then we’ll work our way towards the next steps for Nightwave. As always, we will give you at least 2 weeks heads up before we end Series 3: Glassmaker. 

We are still planning on launching Episode 5 in October - if that changes we’ll let you know. 

Then, Nezha Prime:

A gilded Prince slides into Warframe. Tuesday, October 27, brings you the highly anticipated Nezha Prime Access! Get ready, Tenno! 

TennoGen Round 19, Part 1 on Consoles:

We’d like to verify that we intend to deliver ALL of Round 19 Part 1 to Consoles pending agreements. Stay tuned for launch date details! 

Next Devstream: 

This is a tricky one because we have a few surprises still in store, but ultimately we are in the ‘work before we show more’ stage on some anticipated content (Deimos Arcana, Lavos, Corpus Queenpins, Warframe Revisions overall). We have done several from-home Devstreams and do plan on continuing them as it’s a time we get to connect with everyone in the community in as ‘close to like normal’ circumstances as possible. We are targeting early November for our next home Devstream.  Our Devstreams are a way to have increased transparency and to hang with us Devs for an hour to chat all things Warframe. It's in the spirit of hanging out with the community, but also giving a sneak peek as to what's to come. As a community you’ve been incredibly gracious with the pace changes and hardware issues we’ve had along the way. This year, we are all more familiar with the awkwardness of zoom calls -- we appreciate everyone who tunes in knowing the streams won’t be perfect, but perhaps that’s part of the fun.


And of course, QTCC:

You did it, Tenno! Together we’ve hit our $75,000 campaign goal and have 3 new stretch goals for our Quest to Conquer Cancer this October!

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General ‘Week 32’ notes:

It’s nearing the end of our 32nd week of work from home. In these weeks we’ve accomplished more than any of us expected, from a bumpy Scarlet Spear that received tireless fixes and improvements, to ‘The Deadlock Protocol’. From a Digital TennoCon to a simultaneous release of ‘Heart of Deimos’ less than two months ago. We truly have no idea when to expect ‘business as usual’ to return. There’s no real indication yet, and our safety is our priority. We are getting more and more support to make this remote thing work -- but honestly Tenno, it’s tough. We’re doing our best and identifying what works, and what doesn’t. Thank you for sticking around as we figure that out. 


Simply put, busy times ahead. Stay safe, everyone. 

yeah well..

 

thats cool but,

we were told (iirc) that tennogen would come in two parts in October and there is no mention here of the second half for pc.  

Waiting for mithra nova like... 

 

boring dr steve brule GIF

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Does this mean that Founders are going to have exclusive access to MR30 with Nezha Prime until Deimos Arcana gets released? That’s a really bad look if that’s the case. We non-founders had to wait several weeks to hit MR29, and 30 is so monumentous it would really suck to have to wait again.

Edit: Nonfounders are 15K MR away, and Founders are at most 9K away (GM Founders 3K). Nezha PA Will have only 12K worth of mastery, forcing non-founders to wait on a new weapon to be released to get to MR30. I get that founders deserve their shiny trophies for being here earlier, but it already stings enough knowing I can never 100% the game. Having to wait several weeks to get all the goodies you're giving to MR30 is really gonna suck.

I know times are rough, but this happened once already when the studio was still fully available. I don't think it would be unreasonable to ask for a weapon ready in the pipeline to be thrown in when the PA hits.

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Thanks a lot for the update 😊, I'm sure you have a lot of work at hands that'll come when it's ready. Things are hard everywhere we have now  a curfew no more parties sadly.

Stay safe everyone!

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1 hour ago, [DE]Rebecca said:

Then, Nezha Prime: Tuesday, October 27

So with only 2 months left for 2020, meaning Octavia Prime will spill over to Jan 2021 instead of Dec 2020..... and then all future Prime releases will delayed a month because of 1 Prime that was delayed in 2020. lol

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15 minutes ago, kyori said:

So with only 2 months left for 2020, meaning Octavia Prime will spill over to Jan 2021 instead of Dec 2020..... and then all future Prime releases will delayed a month because of 1 Prime that was delayed in 2020. lol

this is really important how?

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