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It would be nice to have more ways to get prime warframes. There are some thet do not have relics at all. It is set up so you have to keep trying to get the parts to drop. You never know if or when parts may drop. I recently got a Mirage prime part but with no relics I have to guess on how to get more parts. I do use fandom and I try to look up posable drops but there are no ways to predict any drops for parts. It would be nice to better know ways to get parts easier.

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Prime warframes are on vault rotation. All will eventually become available again at some point (their relics will be available). You can check the relics needed on warframe wiki. Each relic has a specific group of items in it's drop table. Mirage prime is currently vaulted (so you can't farm for the relics ingame at the moment) so if you want the parts for it, either do fissures with people who have the relic from past unvaultings, buy the relic/parts from another player with plat, or wait till it's unvaulted again. For relic drop rate/location, its all on the wiki as well, including the percentage.

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In your codex you can select the arcane and relics and look up what part drops from what relics.

Mirage Prime is currently "in the vault" which means her relics do not currently drop in the game. Players that have these relics in their inventory or have her parts can still trade them to you. 

I highly recommend looking at the prime vault in the wiki: https://warframe.fandom.com/wiki/Prime_Vault

If there's something I can do to help as well like if you need to run missions to get relics please let me know.

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Official information on drops/locations/chances is freely available:
https://n8k6e2y6.ssl.hwcdn.net/repos/hnfvc0o3jnfvc873njb03enrf56.html

I do believe there's a friendlier URL for that just never bothered to bookmark it.

As for getting parts easier, not going to happen. It's part of game's economy. In case you haven't noticed, this is virtual casino. Where it beats real casinos is that a) it doesn't require real money (but allows it) and b) you get to actually do something instead of pulling handles and/or warming your drink. But virtual or real, no casino can survive unless odds are stacked in its favour.

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11 hours ago, (XBOX)Rez090 said:

False

He probably means that there are no ways to acquire the vaulted relics, and none released since then. 

The current rotation of frames has yet to re-release certain vaulted frames, and the schedule is a little slow. 

It would be nice if they stopped bringing out Ember and Frost every year rather than frames that have been vaulted longer.

There are a lot of Primed Accessories that have yet to be unvaulted too, and it's a lot annoying that they keep re-pairing Primed Extractors with different accessories, so they can pad out less accessories with stuff that you can't use...

In 2021, they should set a quarterly cycle of 3 different frames, sequentially re-releasing every frame that's been unavailable for more than a year or two. That way new players have access to 12 vaulted frames a year. Not Ember, Frost, Loki and Rhino every year. 

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There is one special founders only frame and weapons that have no relics they are not counted in mastery so are no lose to other tenno, these should stay founders only items thank you for helping warframe survival founders. 

As for other relics there on slow rotation at present 2 per 90days this DE Rebecca said is under revenue as at the last release of fire and ice. So with more primes at a guess either we see faster rotation 60 days doubtful or more likelihood either a 3 frame pack or 2 x 2pack at release.  

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22 hours ago, (XBOX)Onehnddkillr said:

I recently got a Mirage prime part but with no relics

You are mistaken. The only way you could have gotten a Mirage Prime part is if someone in the party cracked a relic they had which contained the part while you were on a fissure mission. Either you chose it from someone else's relic or it was a normal Mirage part.

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Others have explained the vault system, but my 2c is that it's a bad system.

Not including Founder's exclusive Excal Prime, there are 29 Prime frames in the game.  Right now 22 of them are in the vault and of those, 2 of them are in the current temporary unvault.  20 frames that you cannot obtain without trade or having someone with old relics be nice enough to run them for you.  120,000 Mastery, as well as frames that are a straight upgrade to the base (albeit a small upgrade most of the time.) are not obtainable through reasonable gameplay.  8 vaulted frames have been available through Vaulted Prime Access this year, several of which have been unvaulted in the past, whereas other vaulted frames either have not ever been unvaulted or not in a very long time.  Assuming they aren't super crappy about it and continue to just unvault Ember and Frost every other friggin VPA and they actually do 8 different frames a year, it will take over 2 years of waiting to acquire all of them.  What other reasonable game makes you wait 2 years just to get gear items?  Those numbers are only going to get worse as they continue to release new Primes while vaulting others.  

That's just frames.  Most of those vaulted frames have a weapon or two that vaulted with them, or even companions to account for not only more Mastery, but also power.  Most Prime weapons stand head and shoulders above their non-prime counter parts.  

A huge swath of the game's gear chase/grind/progression is in prime parts and the vast majority of those are locked behind an absolutely horrendous time-gate in the form of the "Prime Vault".  I firmly believe the Prime Vault is going to have to change hard or the game is going to suffer massively.  I cannot tell you how many newbies I've had to disappoint by telling them the prime they're after that they just got all excited for and wanted to chase down, is vaulted and probably won't be accessible to them for a long time.  I spend a lot of my in-game time running vaulted relics for people in my alliance and just randos, trying to help them get vaulted parts because I think it's an awful, unfair system.  Full disclosure is that I do make a fairly tidy profit by selling the vaulted parts that I get by running those relics to help others also get them, but I would be more than willing to take a hit to plat gains to see this system get thrown in the #*!%ing dumpster.

DE has this indie-darling-best-monetization-system-in-a-free-to-play-game reputation and I don't see why because the prime vault is predatory af, and only gets more so every time they add to it.  Roughly 75% of the primes in the game are vaulted and hard time-gated specifically to generate FOMO and plat sales and it's dirty as hell.

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On 2020-11-19 at 7:19 PM, Syrethyst said:

Prime warframes are on vault rotation. All will eventually become available again at some point (their relics will be available). You can check the relics needed on warframe wiki. Each relic has a specific group of items in it's drop table. Mirage prime is currently vaulted (so you can't farm for the relics ingame at the moment) so if you want the parts for it, either do fissures with people who have the relic from past unvaultings, buy the relic/parts from another player with plat, or wait till it's unvaulted again. For relic drop rate/location, its all on the wiki as well, including the percentage.

You did not read my post correctly

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Why do people read these posts and then base their answers on bits and pieces of the post. There are plenty that actualy read these post and give a good responce. There is always one or two that read them and give answers that have very little to do with the post. In this post I only saw one so far. If he or she read my post and understood it correctly it would have to do with the rest of the others here. They refered me to websires and things. If they actualy read the post they would have seen that I do look things up and I use youtube to get ideas on how to do things as easy as I can. I made my post based off the internet and videos I have seen along with my person experiences in warframe. Please from now on read the entire post before responding instead of responding to parts of the post.

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On 2020-11-20 at 8:57 AM, (XBOX)Onehnddkillr said:

It would be nice to have more ways to get prime warframes. It would be nice to better know ways to get parts easier.

I understood this as "What other ways can we get prime parts from, aside from relics".. and I answered with "buy the relic/parts from another player with plat".

 

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 You never know if or when parts may drop.
 I do use fandom and I try to look up posable drops but there are no ways to predict any drops for parts.

I understood this as "theres no way to predict if the parts will drop from the relics" and I replied with "For relic drop rate/location, its all on the wiki as well, including the percentage." Eventually you will get the part after trying multiple times~
 

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I recently got a Mirage prime part but with no relics I have to guess on how to get more parts.

I understood this as "Mirage has no relics available and I don't know how to get more mirage parts", and I answered with "Mirage prime is currently vaulted (so you can't farm for the relics ingame at the moment) so if you want the parts for it, either do fissures with people who have the relic from past unvaultings, buy the relic/parts from another player with plat, or wait till it's unvaulted again. "

Hope this helps you understand why I answered the way I did. We are just trying to help. Of course I know you checked fandom wiki, but then you say you can't predict drop rates, hence I referred you back to the wiki~

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