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Alianee

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Hi, I'm nearing my 100 days and since I started playing Steel Path im "stuped" for the Question which frame I should choose as Main (and possibly invest one of my only 2 Umbra Forma in).

I know that there is no best frame for  everything, and I won't ask to do every mission type with it efficiently, but for my "daily" activities I am looking for something. Prior to Steel Path I was a Fan of Titania (ok, it was my first Prime frame, maybe thats why) but now she is a bit lackluster. I hope for builds/frames I maybe not thought of yet.

What I do most of the time:

- abt. 30-60 min survival for my daily Focus and Steel Essences (need kuva for those Rivens) against any Fraction depending on what Resourced I need at the time / killing Acolytes.

- Doing the daily Steel Path missions to open up the star chart.

- Farming weapons/Frames I am still missing.

 

What I tested till now:

  •  Octavia : love her in principle, the Problem is she If you join "random" teams, you either have ppl that ignore her and just go killing stuff which renders the Mallet mostly useless, or they even draw enemy fire on myself because they dont go invisible. I think 80% of my Deaths with octavia came from this.
  • -Saryn with breach surge: Fun to play with, but "relatively" feeble. Since I don't have primed sure footed (and won't get it for almost a year since one can't buy it) I land on my a**  whenever I didn't instantly blind all lashers on infested survivals (which are a lot once 30minutes passed) and Energy becomes a problem too even though I use Hunter Adrenaline and Arcane Energize (Energy leechers).
  • Wukong with Warcry: Good alrounder, but basically devolves to an inaros with primer-clone in survivals with a cloud to remove status effects. Only slashing with my Sepfahn for 30-60 minutes is kinda monotone..
  • Nezha with Breach Surge / chakram: Will maybe shine in longer endurance runs but for the first hour even in MOT I kill faster with just using melee instead of breachsurge - impale - chakram.
  • Archgun Wisp with Protea potts: Interesting but similar position with octavia, since you are mostly stationary with this build (and octavia does that better ^^).
  •  Nova: The 4 is kinda "slow" so to use it with mobility is hard imho. User her mostly for mobile defense against corpus (limbo against rest) and Disruptions / Interceptions. Get's hard though once the allys start killing all the slowed enemies in interception thus spawning new ones...

The builds I saw till now with Valkyr/Revenant/Inaros mostly devolve in similar playstyle like Wukong with little diversion (hacking your melee and tank enough to survive). 

I hope for interesting suggestions/builds that I maybe oversaw till now :).

 

Thanks in advance!

 

 

 

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I used different Warframes in Steel Path, depending on the mission type:

Warframes (all Prime):

- Inaros, Titania (Extermination, Sabotage, Capture, Disruption)

- Vauban, Nova (slow or fast) (Defense, Mobile Defense)

- Nyx (Interception)

- Inaros, Loki, Titania, Limbo (Spy)

- Inaros for most of Assassination Mission

Companion:

- Kavat Smeeta

Weapons:

- Primary: Rubico Prime, Basmu

- Secondary: Kuva Nukor, Catchmoon, Tombfinger

- Melee: Pennant (heavy build), Kronen Prime

 

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Hey.

Im going to suggest what I use for Steel path, but also for most things now.

Xaku.

Hes great. Ill give 2 builds.

This is what i use for SP: https://overframe.gg/build/113041/

The focus here is getting strength up to 200%. This gives gaze a compleate armor strip, which makes a mockery of steel path enemies. Otherwise, you want good range to keep the Grasp of Lohk guns good, then as much energy and continuity as possible. Be aware that energy management is an issue.

The sencond one is for less defensive type missions or ones where i dont need that armor stip so much: https://overframe.gg/build/113043/

Here we need to swap Wisper with Spectrorage, with augment. It gives a high chance that enemies drop energy when killed nearby. So much that you wont ever run out of energy.

 

While the builds differ, the general gameplay is the same. You want to keep the 4th ability active at all times. Not only does this lengthen the duration of the other abilities, it gives you that sweet 75% dodge chance. The dodge chance is WAY better that damage reduction, to the point that the Vitality mod is only there to gatekeep incase shots make it past my sheild. I keep a method of healing on hand to top up if needed. A magus arcane on an oporator or healing retern on melee.

You want to keep your Grasp of Lohk up as well. This minces enemies. In fact it will instant kill most non ancient infested. Against enemies that are tougher, drop a Gaze on an enemy, and make them easier to kill.

 

I cant reccomend Xaku enough, especially for Steel Path.

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How do you feel about being a tanky monster?

Killing steel path acolytes very fast?

BEING A GODDAMN MUSCLE WIZARD WHO CASTS FIST?

if yes to any of these I recommend Atlasmwv53CW.jpg

I like to play it while holding the Mausolon as my gun, normally melee is disabled while you hold your archgun, but with Atlas your 1 is your melee. (Stat stick for 1, just toss all the damage mods modded for corrosive and heat on)

Atlas' defence is also not based on an ability so nullifiers are a non issue, knockdown is solved by his passive so you could even point black Bramma bomb if you felt like it.

With Defy and Rubble passive I reach over 90% damage reduction, which is only needed when you aren't Landsliding, as you are damage immune during.

In conclusion, be a muscle wizard, cast fist.

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Best Answer is YOU DON'T!
Restricting yourself to a "main" warframe is the worse thing you can do to yourself.
Most Warframes can be built without Umbral Forma to Steel path standards.

Also, from some of your coments, you might also want a bit more game time.

I mean, Nova's Molecular Prime, is meant to be recast constantly (or at least as soon as the previous one dissipates), that's especially true with Speedva, since Speedva's point is to bring enemies faster to you for killing. But yes, its mostly a stationary build. But, again, Nova you might want a Aura Forma (since both builds work best with different auras of different polarities), but have absolutely no need for Umbral stuff.

Saryn can be built with Umbral, for a bit more Power strength, and helps survive, but can be built perfectly without.

Wukong is not even close to being Inaros... His cloud is great healing, his Defy is a strong AoE and survival tool. He can actually be a better tank than Inaros. I have mine without Umbral Forma too. Best combo is a good CO/BR/Weeping wounds melee weapon, and let the clone go around with a Kuva Nukor... Its awesome, Clone primes enemies with some status with Nukor, and you blow them up with melee. Use the cloud for healing, defy for clutch aoe and survivability. Also cloud is awesome to get over to objectives faster in capture, rescue, sabotage and mobile defense. And trivializes all spy missions since it can't be detected by anything, just fly to the vault door, hack that, and hack the vault.

So, summarizing, keep your Umbral Forma for Warframes that use it better (Warframes that synergize well with health or armor and like their power strength as well), Rhino is a good candidate, since his Iron Skin synergizes with Armor and Power Strength, so you can plop Umbral Intensify and Umbral Fiber and it will greately benefit him. Also, given how rare they are i tend to save Umbral Forma for Prime warframes, i tend to replace my "normals" with their prime versions when they come out. So there's that to think about too.

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vor 1 Stunde schrieb Alianee:

 

  •  Octavia : love her in principle, the Problem is she If you join "random" teams, you either have ppl that ignore her and just go killing stuff which renders the Mallet mostly useless, or they even draw enemy fire on myself because they dont go invisible. I think 80% of my Deaths with octavia came from this.

 

dont see your point in that... you could just use mallet with resonator... so you are not stationary. throw just enuff duration and range on octavia and you will be fine.

 

maybe go and try Baruuk or Hildryn... those are pretty good frames for SP

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hace 1 hora, Alianee dijo:

- abt. 30-60 min survival for my daily Focus and Steel Essences (need kuva for those Rivens) against any Fraction depending on what Resourced I need at the time / killing Acolytes.

For this I recommend Khora, even after the nerf. You don't even need forma, just a good statstick and a focus lens. I usually do 30-60 min runs in selkie and come out with 20 steel essence and around 100k focus.

 

hace 1 hora, Alianee dijo:

- Doing the daily Steel Path missions to open up the star chart.

For this I use Gauss, Ash or Khora depending on the mission type, they're all very effective to me.

As for the Umbra forma, none of the ones I mentioned above need it imo. I would say save it for a frame that can benefit the most from it. Ideally a prime with good base hp and armour that needs strength in their builds. And in thst case I would probably spend only one umbral forma per frame to keep some build flexibility.

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Thanks for the Suggestions so far!

Will definetely try out the OnePunchMan and Xaku next then Hildryn afterwards (though her weakness against infested/toxin is harsh).

I know there are "specialists" far almost anything, but I somehow still have the RPG stereotype in my head to pick a favourite^^.

Regards!

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7 minutes ago, Alianee said:

Thanks for the Suggestions so far!

Will definetely try out the OnePunchMan and Xaku next then Hildryn afterwards (though her weakness against infested/toxin is harsh).

I know there are "specialists" far almost anything, but I somehow still have the RPG stereotype in my head to pick a favourite^^.

Regards!

I think you should ask more after telling what you like in a frame. I myself am a simple soul and love smashing trough things with my Valkyr and have trouble when i need to build combos out of abilities and enemy reactions to be effective (i'm more a HULK SMASH kind of person). So the more accurate you can describe your preferred playstyle better people can give you better tips for frames that fit that.
 

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10 hours ago, Alianee said:

Hi, I'm nearing my 100 days

You should probably start looking into the Log In exclusive weapons/mods early so that you don't get Crippled by choice...

Don't use Performance as your Primary Criteria... I've often found that it's better to value Uniqueness above everything else... 😉.

10 hours ago, Alianee said:

they even draw enemy fire on myself because they dont go invisible. I think 80% of my Deaths with octavia came from this.

Aaaaah yes... Fun times !!! This got me killed so many times in The Index... People standing behind me and drawing enemy fire in my Direction.... Not good for a frame who doesn't need Vitality...

In any case... Fun might be subjective but I would strongly not recommend maining Octavia due to the fact that she's not fun to play.... She's Hella effective... Top 5 In my personal Tier list but she's far too automated to main in my Opinion.

10 hours ago, Alianee said:

Saryn with breach surge: Fun to play with, but "relatively" feeble. Since I don't have primed sure footed (and won't get it for almost a year since one can't buy it) I land on my a**  whenever I didn't instantly blind all lashers on infested survivals (which are a lot once 30minutes passed) and Energy becomes a problem too even though I use Hunter Adrenaline and Arcane Energize (Energy leechers).

I thoroughly dislike Daryn but other than that... Nothing wrong with her... You can main her without issue... Many Tenno do already.

10 hours ago, Alianee said:

Wukong with Warcry: Good alrounder, but basically devolves to an inaros with primer-clone in survivals with a cloud to remove status effects. Only slashing with my Sepfahn for 30-60 minutes is kinda monotone..

Well.... I don't know about this one... Thats all Ok say in the matter....

10 hours ago, Alianee said:

Nezha with Breach Surge / chakram: Will maybe shine in longer endurance runs but for the first hour even in MOT I kill faster with just using melee instead of breachsurge - impale - chakram.

Nezha is a great choice since he do alil bit of everything in every content.... Ofcourse there in lies the rub.... He's a jack off all trades but doesn't standout in any of them... That's literally the only downside.

10 hours ago, Alianee said:

Archgun Wisp with Protea potts: Interesting but similar position with octavia, since you are mostly stationary with this build (and octavia does that better ^^).

I mean... You can just not use the Pots and you will have more free reign to move more... 

It's going to be hard to fit it all into one build but you could try getting your Energy from Hunter Adrenaline + Arcane Energize...

10 hours ago, Alianee said:

Nova: The 4 is kinda "slow" so to use it with mobility is hard imho. User her mostly for mobile defense against corpus (limbo against rest) and Disruptions / Interceptions. Get's hard though once the allys start killing all the slowed enemies in interception thus spawning new ones...

I was wondering when we would get to Nova because if there was ever a frame worth Maining... It's her... Even her Leverian makes her sound Bad Ass !!!

Anyway.... Molecular Prime being slow isn't so bad because it's got a +50 Meter Radius.... So in Stationery situations it will hit enemies from so far not to be an issue...

As for when you are moving.... Well naturally if you are on the go then it doesn't matter that much.

I nominate Nova the most.... BTW her first Ability only grants Damage Reduction on her health.... I mention this because it's not in the Description.

2 hours ago, Alianee said:

Will definetely try out the OnePunchMan and Xaku next then Hildryn afterwards (though her weakness against infested/toxin is harsh).

This might sound like a joke but you might also want to look into Mesa.... She has a reputation for being a basic *@##$ but it turns out she has a Line Of Sight CC in the form of Shooting Gallery. You can mod it for Range and enemy that sees you... Won't be able to shoot at you.... 😝.

And who knows... Maybe one day they will buff her first Ability.

 

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vor 5 Stunden schrieb Lutesque:

This might sound like a joke but you might also want to look into Mesa.... She has a reputation for being a basic *@##$ but it turns out she has a Line Of Sight CC in the form of Shooting Gallery. You can mod it for Range and enemy that sees you... Won't be able to shoot at you.... 😝.

And who knows... Maybe one day they will buff her first Ability.

 

I totally agree with trying Mesa... its a solid option... also there is a way to get rid off the crappy 1st ability ^^ (helminth)

you can totally go nuts with that free slot... dispensary, fire walker, infested mobility, quiver... or even a dmg boosting ability like shock / smite (need sacrifcing a mod slot)... roar/eclipse or getting extra instances of dmg with xatas whisper.

 

vor 7 Stunden schrieb Alianee:

Thanks for the Suggestions so far!

Will definetely try out the OnePunchMan and Xaku next then Hildryn afterwards (though her weakness against infested/toxin is harsh).

I know there are "specialists" far almost anything, but I somehow still have the RPG stereotype in my head to pick a favourite^^.

Regards!

there is no weaknes against infested... you can solve it by using blazing pillage augment. also pillage removes status effects.

maybe you tell us what you like :)

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