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1 minute ago, Leqesai said:

It feels disingenuous because the information, though not untrue, is not representative of the whole picture. Platinum can be obtained through coupons at a reduced rate or traded for ingame for no exchange of real world currency. Applying the retail value to your argument makes the argument seem more underhanded than it likely is. It gives me a "DE is bad because they are evil" kind of vibe (which is likely not your intent).

Not at all, and I have no idea how you came to that conclusion. Warframe is a product, and it needs to sell. The amount of stuff I've purchased in game with plat I bought is upwards of hundreds of dollars over the past 7 years. (Used to play on PC when open beta started for two years, and have played on NSW since day one.) My argument is the Necramechs are kind of lame, and a pain to grind for, so if someone wants to drop plat on them to skip that grind so this event isn't a total chore to do with a vanilla Mausolon, they should have that option.

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12 minutes ago, (NSW)Electropuncher said:

Not at all, and I have no idea how you came to that conclusion. Warframe is a product, and it needs to sell. The amount of stuff I've purchased in game with plat I bought is upwards of hundreds of dollars over the past 7 years. (Used to play on PC when open beta started for two years, and have played on NSW since day one.) My argument is the Necramechs are kind of lame, and a pain to grind for, so if someone wants to drop plat on them to skip that grind so this event isn't a total chore to do with a vanilla Mausolon, they should have that option.

Well, you see... I'm slightly mad.

I generally get to conclusions through this lovely thing called delusion.

alice in the wonderland yes GIF

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3 hours ago, (NSW)Electropuncher said:

Now, semantically, no. Rhino, Frost, and Nova are all usable throughout the star chart and far beyond, and Warframes in a game called Warframe. Yes, they're easier to acquire, but they're also far more useful. Necramechs are clunky, undertuned, and extremely esoteric in their usage. But, some players like them, and are willing to put in the grind. Others are willing to go halfway and just buy the parts they need. And that's fine.

You can say that now, but just wait till people are running voidrig guard mode and pushing millions of dmg on hydron, sedna with a protea dispenser for energy. Sure, bonewidow is bad but that exalted grenade launcher is going to be everywhere.

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If those mechs are available in the market for people to be able to bypass 'the grind' they should come with a few necramech mods. If not, no one is bypassing any grind, since those are all locked behind the same grind/ max loid standing. If not, they should be sold with a warning about that?

If anything, they're pretty overpriced for their usability (says me, someone who did 'the grind' for both mechs) i actually enjoy iso vaults with clanmates.

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Well im honestly quite happy. I have all the parts and the rep but i somehow dont have enough materials for crafting one.
And since i really dont enjoy going mining etc, im seriously thinking about pulling the trigger. 
On the other side i have no actual reason, it would be just for the sake of having a Necramech. wich i dont really like, i dont like in general this thing that they force us to use very specific gear for everything, being the operators, archwing, mechs... i just want to play the new and fun things with my 7 years worth of gring gear

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On 2020-12-18 at 10:12 PM, DonGheddo said:

Do you consider this a good or a bad move ?

Correct me if I'm wrong after so many years of playing... but aren't non-prime frames and a lot of weapons also available for platinum in the store? Since like... forever?

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14 hours ago, Deminisis said:

You can say that now, but just wait till people are running voidrig guard mode and pushing millions of dmg on hydron, sedna with a protea dispenser for energy. Sure, bonewidow is bad but that exalted grenade launcher is going to be everywhere.

Considering a Frost already locks Hydron down with 4 spam, that's not really a change. Dealing a million damage against something with 4000 health is just as effective as dealing 4000 damage to something with 4000 health. But hey, props to you if you enjoy nuking Hydron.

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Gerade eben schrieb (NSW)Electropuncher:

Considering a Frost already locks Hydron down with 4 spam, that's not really a change. Dealing a million damage against something with 4000 health is just as effective as dealing 4000 damage to something with 4000 health. But hey, props to you if you enjoy nuking Hydron.

yes, actually you don't need much damage in warframe. You can see that with kuva nukor, bubonico etc. 3+ status effects and everything dies in SE. or this 10h camping with mele ...
especially why so much damage? There is no good reward in long missions anyway (or is it ???). I can't even do the event to myself. 55 minutes with the same content make me yawn.

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3 hours ago, Battle.Mage said:

yes, actually you don't need much damage in warframe. You can see that with kuva nukor, bubonico etc. 3+ status effects and everything dies in SE. or this 10h camping with mele ...
especially why so much damage? There is no good reward in long missions anyway (or is it ???). I can't even do the event to myself. 55 minutes with the same content make me yawn.

They are actually correct. Voidrig will be the absolute top tier meta for steel path, it has the highest DPS in the game and will trivialize that mode. (I don't wanna hear about Khoras stupid statstick whip builds. That's the highest damage not the highest DPS) You simply set up in a corner and one tap steel path enemies in surv missions.

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Gerade eben schrieb Whitestrake0:

They are actually correct. Voidrig will be the absolute top tier meta for steel path, it has the highest DPS in the game and will trivialize that mode. (I don't wanna hear about Khoras stupid statstick whip builds. That's the highest damage not the highest DPS) You simply set up in a corner and one tap steel path enemies in surv missions.

yes ... will be very funny with 4x Dispensary and with loot frames behind the back. but that leads to afk macros toggle with a left mouse click. and that is what devs supposedly wanted to avoid.
will be interesting how they solve it.

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17 minutes ago, (NSW)war527 said:

I play on switch and I need help trying to buy it, because I don’t see mechs in the market. Can someone show me how?

That update is on development right now:

 

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On 2020-12-18 at 4:33 PM, rushari said:

It does not take weeks. Weapons are harder but mechs parts are raining from iso vaults. Also easiest syndicate to level. Having the plat option is good though. I sometimes skip even the easiest grinds when they are not fun.

What about the son tokens. I agree that that the overall grind is actually very easy, but 40 son tokens are outrageous. I've been playing for 3 hours and only have 4 tokens plus some extra tags that can't be cashed in

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15 hours ago, xxswatelitexx said:

Besides the event, exomechs have little use in the game.

So doesn't matter at all. Also you can buy any warframe at any time so why does it matter?

because '' muh speshial becawe i grindeed'', but serious, DE creates an event to stress test something, i would obvious lead to an easier way to get it

funny that when bonewidow lauched i had everything that i just went to get the bps, and as was going to be away at the weekind, i didn't felt the time it took to make it

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15 hours ago, (PSN)GOTWIC said:

What about the father tokens. I agree that that the overall grind is actually very easy, but 40 father tokens are outrageous. I've been playing for 3 hours and only have 4 tokens plus some extra tags that can't be cashed in

Just an assumption here, but i think you're confusing father tokens with son tokens?

Son tokens are a pain to collect, with the animal capture stuff, father just wants randon junk scavanged from deimos' surface.

The only thing that slowed down my required father token collection was his amount offered at any 1 time.

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Any resistance to a plat alternative for ANYTHING in the game, be it outright purchases or boosters that speed up the process in the “pay to progress faster” sense is being shortsighted.

These alternatives ALLOW YOU TO PLAY FOR FREE ON SOMEONE ELSE’S DIME.

If you have that much trouble with it, go invest some time in the real world and spend a few dollars.

A ”Pay-to-Win” example would be offering Customizable/modable Mechs through a Plat-only option for Operation Orphix Venom and then forcing players who don’t pay to use inferior “NPC event mechs” for the event and THEN making them farmable after the fact.

Let’s not get it twisted.

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On 2020-12-18 at 9:32 PM, Monstrosity87 said:

For those of us that have rep grinded and done what was necessary to get that necramech it is not right to out a pay to win aspect.

Random person: buy plat with real money then oh I go buy necramech.

That gives an unfair advantage to those who can't buy plat for real money. As well as cheapens the experience of having a necramech in the first place.

I can agree with decreasing what is required to EARN it, but to just allow people to buy it right out is wrong.

 

Thanks

You still need to rank the mech through effort anyway.
Its no different from buying Hyldrin, Baruk, etc with plat.

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A company who makes money from a free to play title will monetize every part of the game in order to force you to buy some platinum. In my opinion this is a normal move because they need to make money in every possible way and if someone not patient to farm then those will buy it for money. Money is tradeable but only able to trade if someone buy for real money and those are work for their money in most cases so not see this as unfair.

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Mostly agree, with you, except i'd use the term 'tempt' instead of 'force'. The easiest/most common 'plat available' powerupgrades i think are potatoes, those are still freely farmable through nightwave, sorties(theoretically, if it doesnt give primes pineapples all the time) and alerts sometimes.

DE never forced me to put money in their game, i still like to buy prime access anyway. Even far beyond 'needing' the plat for anything.

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2 minutes ago, (NSW)IronElemental said:

Mostly agree, with you, except i'd use the term 'tempt' instead of 'force'. The easiest/most common 'plat available' powerupgrades i think are potatoes, those are still freely farmable through nightwave, sorties(theoretically, if it doesnt give primes pineapples all the time) and alerts sometimes.

DE never forced me to put money in their game, i still like to buy prime access anyway. Even far beyond 'needing' the plat for anything.

Tempt is a soft word for it because every company who uses free to play model need to make money if it is just a slight temptation then they will bankrupt so they need to make the illusion you need that platinum, that item, that warframe etc. There are stuffs which needs money anyway otherwise it's decrease your gameplay experience hard. I personally bought platinum only in my earliest days in warframe years ago since them 5-6 year no discounts for me so I stopped buying platinum. I live on a moderate amount which is enough for me for few year. 

While nowadays you can farm items which was not available back in the time still you pay with your time and they put you work for stuff what supposed to be a part of the gameplay. In this form your game turns into second, third job which is not the normal route when you wish to play a game so in the end you pay for the "convenience" to become able to play the game what you supposed to do in the beginning. 

I preffered always games which sells you a full product with an acceptable price. Warframe is an exception because the atmosphere and the gameplay is fun for few hours a day but beyond that it can be a hindrance. Other than this I would not like the free to play model becuse every created item, no matter if a game, food or other commodity is what we talking about actually have a price. If they were selling the game for a price tag maybe less players willing to buy the game yet a lot more feel okay to spend money with microtransactions which generates more money. This is all about the consumer psychology.

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