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MR30 test: those last few guys.


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so I've been practicing the hell out of the MR30 test, and for the life of me I cannot find a way to kill the final set of bosses (where there's ten of them) AND still have enough life support to make it to the last tower. I only (almost) hit the tower once, and since then, I just can't kill the bosses fast enough.

I've got a Kuva Nukor, I've tried lots of different builds; max range Saryn, max range Xaku, Mesa, Inaros, Octavia.. I've even tried melee only with my Jat Kusar build that wipes the floor with everything but even with finishers I still can't seem to kill the bosses fast enough, and no matter how many minions I kill, even with Xaku or Saryn wiping the room over and over again, there just aren't enough drops to keep the mission going. 

so if any MR30s read these, please, share some wisdom: how'd you pass it? because outside of spending months perfecting an umbral build or waiting for a patch that will never come, I'm not sure this test is actually possible, at least for me. I'm not the only one apparently, someone told me about a guy with 300 attempts logged on it so far and hasn't passed yet. but it MUST be doable, I dare say it'd be  almost trivial if it weren't for:

- not enough LS drops.

- 10 bosses at once, the finishers thing worked well until I saw one of them was a Nox.. ffs.

- holes in the floor. I'm not gonna go into this because it actually makes me mad, but the simulacrum Tileset does suck. it's taken god knows how many runs just to get the jumps right and to not fall off the edge mid combat. 

and I'll say it so you don't have to: yes, I need to git gud. I've gotten better as time has gone by, but still never beat a practice run. so what am I missing here? any builds/ weapon/frame suggestions appreciated. 

and if there's a way to actually cheese the test by glitching i'm all ears lol.

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I took the easy way and done it with Mesa.

What i could not kill with her (mostly Nox), jumped close to them so 2 blind them and 1-2 headshot with Corinth Prime done the rest.

Dunno what to say about life support. I had no problem with it. 

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I used a high-strength Wisp build with Roar subsumed and a status-based Zaw machete. Tactics consist mainly of whacking things until they die.

The MR30 test isn't a survival mission, it just looks like one. The goal isn't to surviver and keep life support up, the goal is to kill the bosses and then activate the life support tower. Kill minions until the Eximus bosses spawn, kill the Eximus bosses, activate the life support tower.

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I used pilferdome khora. I forget which primary, I think I went with something fast to deal with drones. I did take me 2 tries since that last nox is a tanky boy. Just practice a bit with different stuff till you find one that works for your playstyle. 

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I used Inaros P with temp mode change for 40% knockdown chance mid air, only melee kills (not sure was it Orthos P or Guandao P) and used operator to do 2 things at once - heal myself and jump (tho I kinda suck at jumps). Also, I was surprised you can get additional Life Support capsules from mobs even if the task is to kill bosses or activate big LS. Even with that knowledge I did the test only on 3rd day with a little spare time.

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Hopefully this helps, Mesa with Viral on Peacemakers, Arcane Guardian is nice to have for this also. Any rapid fire secondary or a melee for the nully bubbles and whatever you're comfortable with for sniping the drone and breaking the helmet on the Nox, I used a hunter munitions Viral Rubico. Easy breezy, good luck!
 

 

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Mesa + Rubico Prime for Nox's

But you can do it with any frame as long as you got some half decent weapons. There really isn't much to it.

I fail to see how it can even be considered difficult when we have done literally the same thing for thousands of hours before this test.

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I did the MR30 test yesterday with Mesa Prime, Kuva Karak, Kuva Nukor and Paracesis. Used the Regulators for most enemies, the Karak for the Arbitration type drones and melee for the Nullifiers. I had planned to use the Nukor for status effects but in the end I didn't need it. I think I died four times in all because I wasn't really worried about defense.

I had attempted it the day before with my Wukong Prime main, Kuva Chakkhurr, Nukor, Paracesis and failed because I couldn't take out the final Nox quick enough.

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The MR30 test was maybe the hardest thing I've done in the game. I probably ran 100-150 practice attempts before I started beating it in practice, and even after that I still failed the real test twice.

I used a melee Saryn. My weapon, of all things, was Twin Basolk—they're pretty underrated, imo, but I also have a really nice riven for them. I used a Condition Overload build with gas. I think gas clouds can set of spores, but I'm not sure. I brought a Stahlta along as my primary, and I had a Catchmoon secondary but I never used it.

My Saryn has Breach Surge in place of Molt. Modded stats are: Dur 79 Eff 55 Ran 175 Str 270.

My basic strategy was to cast Spore and Toxic Lash and spam the melee button—an original approach, patent pending. I used the Stahlta to burst down bubbles and take out arbitration drones. The only special melee move I did was to ground slam groups to set off a bunch of spores. No finishers, no heavy attacks, just melee and occasionally slam.

For bosses, I usually tried to spot the arbitration drone and shoot it down, but I didn't waste time looking for it if it wasn't immediately visible. I also tried to spore the heaviest enemy and melee them down first, in order to let my spores do most of the work on the rest of the bosses, but again—I didn't waste time looking for the heaviest boss, I just prioritized it if it was in view. The most important thing, I found, was to always be meleeing somebody. Using Breach Surge to stun them all and make them all AOE each other was useful, mostly for keeping them from doing something that might interrupt my melee.

My operator helped a fair amount. I have nearly all of the skills unbound, and my arcanes are Replenish and Repair—if I got low on health, I could drop into operator form and heal quite a bit in literally a second or two. I also used Void Dash to push a couple bosses over the edge, but that was more happenstance than strategy. The main use for my operator was dashing to the further towers.

Another thing that helped was bringing a Panzer Vulpaphyla for my pet. They add more spores for Toxic Lash to pop, and they self-resurrect, which means you can have vacuum up for most of the fight.

Your spores should be killing almost everything. If they're not, you probably need more power and/or more range. I tanked my Efficiency and just dropped a pizza anytime I needed one—I'm on PC, so I can hotkey them. If you can't, well, figure out how to drop them quickly somehow.

 

All that said... it was really tough.

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13 minutes ago, motorfirebox said:

All that said... it was really tough.

It isn't hard, it's probably only difficult for people who've rushed MR or are relatively new. For those who have played for a long time and just continually bumped their MR up as new  gear is released it's no different to what we've been playing in the game for ages now.

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I feel your pain and what most people probably dont realize is that you have access to EVERY thing in your gear wheel, including SPECTERS! I popped out a Tenno Specter, mine was a Hildryn with the Kuva Bramma, and it was just enough of a distraction to allow me to complete the test with plenty of time to spare.  I used a Max range Saryn with the Ignis Wraith built for Status Viral/ Heat Dmg which works great since the heat procs will stop any enemy from shooting at you and the Viral Procs will maximize your dmg Win/Win!  Also I highly recommend using the Preparation Mod so when you begin the test you are full of energy allowing  you to spam the S#%T out of Spores and Miasma, to wipe the board clean and grab all the precious air! Also I had imbued my Saryn with Nezha's Firewalker power in place of molt as it will keep you free of all the deadly Slash Procs that you constantly get, in addition will make you a bit faster to run around and grab the air.  Best of luck Tenno and keep at it because, if this old queen (me) can pass it, you can too!

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7 minutes ago, -CdG-Zilchy said:

It isn't hard, it's probably only difficult for people who've rushed MR or are relatively new. For those who have played for a long time and just continually bumped their MR up as new  gear is released it's no different to what we've been playing in the game for ages now.

I mean, I joined in 2014, and I've got over 4k hours in. I've just never encountered content that requires this level of sustained DPS, even back in the bad old days when you had to grind Void survival for hours to get Prime parts.

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33 minutes ago, -CdG-Zilchy said:

It isn't hard, it's probably only difficult for people who've rushed MR or are relatively new. For those who have played for a long time and just continually bumped their MR up as new  gear is released it's no different to what we've been playing in the game for ages now.

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The test is NOT like ANY mission in Warframe that we have played! The only one I can think of that was even close is the boss fight with Nehil and the similarity is only with the bottomless abyss that you must avoid falling into.  This test throws EVERY Enemy, Damage, Status Proc, Problematic Environment, Arbitration Drones and limited oxygen supply which is UNIQUE TO THIS TEST! Go somewhere else if you want someone to stroke your ego and have people tell you how good you are. A fellow player is having genuine struggles with a difficult test and asked for helpful suggestions on how others have passed it.  Give advice not platitudes of how good a player you think you are.  Go back to the bridge you came from Troll or offer some advice like a good Tenno!

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4 minutes ago, (XBOX)sinamanthediva said:

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The test is NOT ANY mission in Warframe that we have played! The only one I can think of that was even close is the boss fight with Nehil and the similarity is only with the bottomless abyss that you must avoid falling into.  This test throws EVERY Enemy, Damage, Status Proc, Problematic Environment, Arbitration Drones and limited oxygen supply which is UNIQUE

You've literally just said it's a bit of everything that we've played. Which is why it's easy. We've played against these enemies and this mode for ages, you should know how to beat each one, putting them together doesn't make it any harder if you isolate each component. Watch the video I posted, see how I left the Nox till last and then killed him in about 3 shots. Isolate each component of what you're already familiar with, it's a cakewalk.

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18 minutes ago, motorfirebox said:

I mean, I joined in 2014, and I've got over 4k hours in. I've just never encountered content that requires this level of sustained DPS, even back in the bad old days when you had to grind Void survival for hours to get Prime parts.

Did you do much arbitration? It's really the only component that would trip you up, dealing with the drones. The rest is down to recognizing which elements to bring and you see I brought a fast firing secondary to take care of nully bubbles then let loose with peacemaker once more. Honestly the only reason I used Mesa is for the ease of dropping life support and triggering the next wave of bosses quickly. As for the Nox considering for a long time I did excavation endurance for relic cracking, he's actually quite low level. Dealing with a level 1000 one is pretty fun, they can kill you even after they're dead.

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Actually the video I posted perfectly illustrates what I mean if you watch wave 2 you'll see I got blocked by a nully, frost eximus and the drone combining in 1 spot. So I backed off, killed the drone, dropped the nully and problem solved. Isolating each threat they are not a threat by themselves.

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5 minutes ago, -CdG-Zilchy said:

You've literally just said it's a bit of everything that we've played. Which is why it's easy. We've played against these enemies and this mode for ages, you should know how to beat each one, putting them together doesn't make it any harder if you isolate each component. Watch the video I posted, see how I left the Nox till last and then killed him in about 3 shots. Isolate each component of what you're already familiar with, it's a cakewalk.

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Wow do you want a cookie or more compliments on how awesome you are? How does saying its easy help anyone besides yourself?

Wait for it.....[insert cricket chirp noise here] Exactly, it doesn't!

Go somewhere else Troll if you feel the need to brag about how good you are as this isn't the forum for ego stroking. Go try Porn hub for those needs.

Merry Christmas!

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4 minutes ago, (XBOX)sinamanthediva said:

ryan newman no GIF by Alexander IRL

Wow do you want a cookie or more compliments on how awesome you are? How does saying its easy help anyone besides yourself?

Wait for it.....[insert cricket chirp noise here] Exactly, it doesn't!

Go somewhere else Troll if you feel the need to brag about how good you are as this isn't the forum for ego stroking. Go try Porn hub for those needs.

Merry Christmas!

Oh so you're one of those people, no worries. I actually tried to help people in the thread but sure no worries, have a wonderful day. I wish I could be as cool as you using gifs to try and look clever. 

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1 minute ago, -CdG-Zilchy said:

Did you do much arbitration? It's really the only component that would trip you up, dealing with the drones. The rest is down to recognizing which elements to bring and you see I brought a fast firing secondary to take care of nully bubbles then let loose with peacemaker once more. Honestly the only reason I used Mesa is for the ease of dropping life support and triggering the next wave of bosses quickly.

I've gotten all the Arbitration honors I need, though I haven't finished farming out some of the drops. It wasn't the drones that caused me problems, it was the time factor. Yeah, you can find all those other elements in other missions—and in other missions, you can take your time doing so. If things are hairy, you can zip away and regroup. You have time to assess the area, pick which target to attack first, reload, drop a Zenurik bubble, and then start killing stuff.

In this test, there's no time for any of that. If you reload, you'd better be doing it mid-air on your way to a tower or a big group of mobs. If you go into operator mode, it had better be because you need to dash out to a tower—you can't stop and heal your frame to full with Repair.

All of which I eventually adapted to, but it wasn't something I'd ever encountered in any other game mode. I mean, when I started really putting effort into this test, I had to check and see what key I'd bound my energy pizzas to. I'd never used enough of them to memorize it.

Understand, I'm not complaining. I like a challenge, and Warframe is rarely very challenging. This test was challenging on a level I haven't found anywhere else in the game.

 

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1 minute ago, -CdG-Zilchy said:

Oh so you're one of those people, no worries. I actually tried to help people in the thread but sure no worries, have a wonderful day. I wish I could be as cool as you using gifs to try and look clever. 

It's a burden that I must carry, but maybe with enough practice, you too can be as cool!  Hugs!

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11 minutes ago, motorfirebox said:

I've gotten all the Arbitration honors I need, though I haven't finished farming out some of the drops. It wasn't the drones that caused me problems, it was the time factor. Yeah, you can find all those other elements in other missions—and in other missions, you can take your time doing so. If things are hairy, you can zip away and regroup. You have time to assess the area, pick which target to attack first, reload, drop a Zenurik bubble, and then start killing stuff.

In this test, there's no time for any of that. If you reload, you'd better be doing it mid-air on your way to a tower or a big group of mobs. If you go into operator mode, it had better be because you need to dash out to a tower—you can't stop and heal your frame to full with Repair.

All of which I eventually adapted to, but it wasn't something I'd ever encountered in any other game mode. I mean, when I started really putting effort into this test, I had to check and see what key I'd bound my energy pizzas to. I'd never used enough of them to memorize it.

Understand, I'm not complaining. I like a challenge, and Warframe is rarely very challenging. This test was challenging on a level I haven't found anywhere else in the game.

 

Well on the time factor I feel you and that's precisely why I chose Mesa cos you can just blitz all the adds and drop a heap of life support constantly. I just looked at the threat factors, the drone being public enemy number 1 and the nully bubbles. Remove those and the whole thing becomes much more manageable, viral peacemakers tend to tear through them comfortably with those problems gone and the Nox just requires headshots like normal. I did use Arcane Guardian on Mesa just cos of what you said about the healing, it is nice to have that safety net. I do agree with you that I thought the test was well designed in that it challenged all the elements at once but I think it's only frantic if you don't sort've stick to the edges and assess each boss wave so to speak. The adds are annoying but not threatening. Either way, a fun test, hopefully they keep this up with the up and coming legendary tests they add.

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1 hour ago, -CdG-Zilchy said:

Well on the time factor I feel you and that's precisely why I chose Mesa cos you can just blitz all the adds and drop a heap of life support constantly. I just looked at the threat factors, the drone being public enemy number 1 and the nully bubbles. Remove those and the whole thing becomes much more manageable, viral peacemakers tend to tear through them comfortably with those problems gone and the Nox just requires headshots like normal. I did use Arcane Guardian on Mesa just cos of what you said about the healing, it is nice to have that safety net. I do agree with you that I thought the test was well designed in that it challenged all the elements at once but I think it's only frantic if you don't sort've stick to the edges and assess each boss wave so to speak. The adds are annoying but not threatening. Either way, a fun test, hopefully they keep this up with the up and coming legendary tests they add.

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See was it so hard to give helpful advice without needing your ego stroked by saying this test is "easy"? You are a shining example that gives me hope! Sometimes with a little love and guidance, even trolls can blossom into helpful Tenno! Thank you for showing us the spirit of Christmas in these dark and troubling times! Hugs!

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I was on the same boat with you, saw someone complete the test with Saryn/Mesa and thought they are meta and I should do it this way, tried 30+ runs myself and I couldnt even be in the final stage.

My final solution: Max range nidus and smash them with my reaper prime.

My nidus build is: CP + all range mods + Vitality + Adapation + fleeting expertise + 2 strength mods. Actaully range mods are most important because u can grab more enemies then other are up to you.

Reaper prime is not crucial, Jat kusar like what u use would also work.

Message me or talk to me in game I am happy to help.

 

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48 minutes ago, (XBOX)sinamanthediva said:

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See was it so hard to give helpful advice without needing your ego stroked by saying this test is "easy"? You are a shining example that gives me hope! Sometimes with a little love and guidance, even trolls can blossom into helpful Tenno! Thank you for showing us the spirit of Christmas in these dark and troubling times! Hugs!

But I did give advice before mate, I even posted the video showing what I was saying :(

I look at stuff this way, tell someone something's really hard and they may approach it with apprehension. Tell someone it's easy and show them how to do it and they won't struggle as much and they'll attack it rather than being afraid of it. Just my point of view or rather, point of thinking. That's not ego that's just the way my mind works. Either way, hope you have a good xmas.

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