2020 Acquisition News

[craftfaster2]

42 minutes ago, (PSN)Mofojokers said:

 

Not like Tencent, The other lads hold no candle to Chinese mega EA. We just have to hope they don't meddle in DE , no job cuts , no odd monetization pushes and allow DE to remain to themselves as they promised.

Not doom and gloom just something to be aware of now.

I agree 100% alot of people like to say I'm shouting doom and gloom, but I'm just voicing my concerns while also hoping for the best. I love warframe I want it to be a good game. I DON'T want tencent to ruin it, but it's possible that they could. so we really just have to hope for the best, and that tencent will leave hands off as long as they get their investments worth.

42 minutes ago, Jarriaga said:

That's all we wanted and hoped for.

I really truly do hope this is how it goes. But so many companies have said this before and the next minute they're absolved or shut down.
Not saying that's what will happen to DE I'm just saying this is what other companies have said and this is what has followed.

40 minutes ago, RaethFennec said:

My heart goes out to you, DE. Stay strong, and know that players like myself have your back. We know that your hands were off the wheel back when you had to desperately reach out to investors and Leyou picked you up. They seemed to be good for you until now, but you're out of the frying pan and finally into the fire. Accordingly, I hope that you'll stand for morals and human rights and make your way elsewhere. Know that you have my support anywhere ELSE you go. I trust you've laid plans for this day and are capable of gaining your independence, whatever way is necessary. With great sadness though, this will be where I part ways with Warframe. I saw the circular/announcement from Leyou earlier today and have already made plans to divest my clan and my friends are leaving with me. But the second I hear about DE buying themselves, or a Kickstarter or project "from the makers of Warframe" you can know I'll be there.

So Long, Space Ninja

I understand your concerns, I'll be staying in the fire fight till it's over. Cya later tenno, hope things will turn out well and you'll feel safe to come back!

[Tesseract7777]

I think a lot of people are seeing something awful that isn't going to actually happen. 

Or at least, nothing that hasn't already happened, and hasn't already been actively happening since the first Chinese buyout. 

I noticed way back then that things have gotten a little more P2W friendly since. More packs available for real money, not just prime vaults. New frames are harder and harder to get, some are even time limited like Hildryn. 

However, I have seen no reason to believe that creative control has ever been taken out of their hands, or that that promise will change. 

TL;DR: 

If you are worried about Warframe devs losing creative control, I think you can relax. 

If you are worried about WF becoming a bit more P2W, that's not an entirely unjustifiable fear, but I think we have already seen that creep up slightly over the years, I don't expect the creep to accelerate to any serious degree, and it is still by far, even after all that creep upward, one of the best in existence when it comes to being able to play and get what you want without spending money. 

So I think WF has many great years to come. 

[iPathos]

Love to see all these people crapping on the idea because it's a Chinese company. /s 

If they would like to then refer to League of Legends (Riot Games), Path of Exile (Grinding Gear Games) and many other MMOs for the sweeping changes that they didn't implement, I would be eternally grateful.

 

On the plus side, congrats DE. Hope to hear that more community input is listened to in the coming months/years.

[(PSN)The_Gentleman_xX]

vor 44 Minuten schrieb [DE]Rebecca:

Tenno!

Depending how long you’ve been around these parts, you may remember we had some acquisition news to share in 2014 and 2016.

Years have gone by, Warframe has grown and grown, and as 2020 wraps up we have another round of Acquisition news to share.

Digital Extremes (that’s us) is now owned by Tencent. We’re joining the ranks of some of our favourite developers, too! We will maintain our independence and vision for Warframe throughout it all.

Full news can be read here: https://www.digitalextremes.com/news/digital-extremes-partners-with-tencent

For better or worse, you’re still stuck with our decisions :P! 

Hm ok wird dan paytowin

 

[Feltal]

20 minutes ago, KCToxic said:

Digital Extremes has been owned in part or in entirety by a Chinese company since 2014.

That's when the updates went downhill. 

[Xycelium]

19 minutes ago, RaethFennec said:

My heart goes out to you, DE. Stay strong, and know that players like myself have your back. We know that your hands were off the wheel back when you had to desperately reach out to investors and Leyou picked you up. They seemed to be good for you until now, but you're out of the frying pan and finally into the fire. Accordingly, I hope that you'll stand for morals and human rights and make your way elsewhere. Know that you have my support anywhere ELSE you go. I trust you've laid plans for this day and are capable of gaining your independence, whatever way is necessary. With great sadness though, this will be where I part ways with Warframe. I saw the circular/announcement from Leyou earlier today and have already made plans to divest my clan and my friends are leaving with me. But the second I hear about DE buying themselves, or a Kickstarter or project "from the makers of Warframe" you can know I'll be there.

So Long, Space Ninja

Fearmongering over nothing aside, you do realize that DE themselves is being acquired by Tencent, not Warframe? Playing another game developed by DE would be the same thing.

[Revenant]

24 minutes ago, Jarriaga said:

That's all we wanted and hoped for.

Take in consideration that they have their hands tied if Tencent forces them to make changes "to appeal the general public" (aka "to appeal OUR public and interests")

[-Krism-]

1 hour ago, [DE]Rebecca said:

We will maintain our independence and vision for Warframe throughout it all

I think that's all we wanted to hear, nice :p

[vanaukas]

It's literally amussing to read this thread. Congrats, I hope this allow you to expand your structure as workforce and technology.

[Zoero]

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[TouFuub]

1小时前 , [DE]Rebecca 说:

Tenno!

Depending how long you’ve been around these parts, you may remember we had some acquisition news to share in 2014 and 2016.

Years have gone by, Warframe has grown and grown, and as 2020 wraps up we have another round of Acquisition news to share.

Digital Extremes (that’s us) is now owned by Tencent. We’re joining the ranks of some of our favourite developers, too! We will maintain our independence and vision for Warframe throughout it all.

Full news can be read here: https://www.digitalextremes.com/news/digital-extremes-partners-with-tencent

For better or worse, you’re still stuck with our decisions :P! 

The statement mentioned that items related to creative independence will be ensured, but there are some other points of concerns that I would like to know:

Will the ToS and related legal items be changed after the takeover?

Any regards to the integrity of our personal information after the takeover?

[RaethFennec]

3 minutes ago, Scruffel said:

Fearmongering over nothing aside, you do realize that DE themselves is being acquired by Tencent, not Warframe? Playing another game developed by DE would be the same thing.

There's no fearmongering here, I'm afraid. I know the game won't suddenly be injected with more microtransactions or require the EGS launcher or anything even annoying. I fully understand that Tencent won't impose any major changes on DE on any noticeable timescale. They'll make it as easy as possible to ignore that their hard work and all the goodwill of their community is now supporting a company for whom human rights violations are acceptable day to day realities. This isn't about Warframe. It's about refusing to support Tencent.

What I'm saying is that if the staff of DE walked out and started their own independent studio, they would have a customer and ally in me and many of my friends who are leaving now. I suspect a lot of the community would rally for them. Warframe was special, and I truly enjoyed it. The only problem was that the game didn't belong to the people making it.

[TennouboshiUzume]

I am sorry to hear that.  :(

Tencent always ruining games but never create game. 

[(PSN)Atlantis366]

Its already started,  give us more of your personal details and we will give you a cosmetic. The parent company is known for not being liked by even its Chinese users -  there is no data privacy or integrity, even with kids details, we knew it was coming and folk have been winding down their play time according. It will be very interesting to see the numbers on all platforms going forward as no one trusts tencent with good reason. Plus some markets are already looking to restrict them because of practices in relation to data. Good luck DE, I will always support the devs if they move they will have a customer n ally in me.

[vanaukas]

23 minutes ago, TouFuub said:

The statement mentioned that items related to creative independence will be ensured, but there are some other points of concerns that I would like to know:

Will the ToS and related legal items be changed after the takeover?

Any regards to the integrity of our personal information after the takeover?

They are a canadian company, they abide by canadian laws, they can't change any of your concerns without asking for it again or they could face legal issues in Canada. Tencent isn't above the law.

[Revenant]

22 minutes ago, BoomerSubmarin said:

I am sorry to hear that.  :(

Tencent always ruining games but never create game. 

They literally created a clone of Cyberpunk right after the gameplay demo was shown.

[-Augustus-]

2 hours ago, [DE]Rebecca said:

Tenno!

Depending how long you’ve been around these parts, you may remember we had some acquisition news to share in 2014 and 2016.

Years have gone by, Warframe has grown and grown, and as 2020 wraps up we have another round of Acquisition news to share.

Digital Extremes (that’s us) is now owned by Tencent. We’re joining the ranks of some of our favourite developers, too! We will maintain our independence and vision for Warframe throughout it all.

Full news can be read here: https://www.digitalextremes.com/news/digital-extremes-partners-with-tencent

For better or worse, you’re still stuck with our decisions :P! 

But not only your decisions, seeing as how "creative independence" hardly covers all aspects of the game.

[weirdee]

2 hours ago, Frawg said:

The chicken nugget company that DE was previously with was quite hands-off in terms of creative freedom, if I recall correctly.

Tencent may have something to say in the creative direction. That said, Grinding Gear Games/Path of Exile has been doing really well, generally.

isn't that because path of exile has a big lootbox event every season like overwatch

[IgnisWings]

2 hours ago, [DE]Rebecca said:

We will maintain our independence and vision for Warframe throughout it all.

As much as I'd like to believe this, there have been recent shadowbans and forced name-changes to items that beg to differ...

[Dioxety]

2 hours ago, craftfaster2 said:

 "We will maintain our independence and vision for Warframe throughout it all"

name me one company where this worked out 100%

Epic Games, Riot Games, and GGG(Path Of Exile) worked out, and are owned by Tencent. All of them are relatively independent. 

[PookieNumnums]

 

i read the post and it makes me less 'concerned' i guess. though tbf the post doesnt mention anything regarding monetization specifically.. that said.. its been fine so far and i have faith in them to keep the core values of the game in tact (i.e. no boxes, no p2w, no subscription)

from the digital extremes site..

During the six-year period, we’ve remained creatively independent.

We will remain creatively independent, we expect no changes to Warframe or how our studio operates, and we will remain as dedicated ever to you, the community, who has been with us every step of the way since we launched Warframe.

Warframe’s direction will remain in the hands of its development team, which is 100% dedicated to its community

[Wild_Stardust]

3 hours ago, [DE]Rebecca said:

For better or worse, you’re still stuck with our decisions :P! 

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I presume you mean it as playful but considering the particular company you're being purchased by, and the sensitivity of the topic.
It seems like you do not fully comprehend the interpretations of the situation or you are un-aware how your words / actions affect people; or simply don't care about the people that disagree or are upset with the Tencent purchase and you effectively just told them to Flock Off

It would be nice if DE showed a bit more respect to its players.

[Urlan]

3 hours ago, Pizzarugi said:

It will for the Chinese version. Far as I've seen, especially as a very long-time player of Path of Exile which has been owned by Tencent for a while now, they tend not to tamper with games outside of their country.

The Chinese version was acquired by Tencent as announced by DE during the Tennocon deals this year, this was a separate deal but one that folk have been reporting about for a long while now.

[Urlan]

3 hours ago, [DE]Rebecca said:

Tenno!

Depending how long you’ve been around these parts, you may remember we had some acquisition news to share in 2014 and 2016.

Years have gone by, Warframe has grown and grown, and as 2020 wraps up we have another round of Acquisition news to share.

Digital Extremes (that’s us) is now owned by Tencent. We’re joining the ranks of some of our favourite developers, too! We will maintain our independence and vision for Warframe throughout it all.

Full news can be read here: https://www.digitalextremes.com/news/digital-extremes-partners-with-tencent

For better or worse, you’re still stuck with our decisions :P! 

For better or worse you are stuck with Leyou's decisions, and your sale to Leyou prior. We as Pony Ma would say still have the right to act and as such leave or stay. Good luck with the transition but I do wonder if it matters that we are judged by the company we keep. Good luck with Warframe going forward.

[motorfirebox]

3 hours ago, Purplemen101 said:

Another MMO I get invested in only to be bought out by a Chinese company. RIP.

You're about six years too late, chief.