Sovyul Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 ...Are required to keep the place relatively clean, therefore their existence is mandatory to maintain the expected functionality of the forum and chat. I'm well aware that this position is voluntary, but even then, I'm confused. Why are they doing it for free? Why isn't DE paying them? If they are essential, they should receive monetary compensation. Just as site maintenance, Is moderation not a job that absolutely needs to be done now? The forum can exist without moderators, but in an absolutely chaotic, borderline unusable state, to the point where DE might even get into legal trouble regarding the content that would be posted here. It's not even charity work, or helping out a small indie company. This is not an animal shelter, lives don't depend on your kindness here. DE has Tencent as a shareholder now as well. It seems more like exploitation of good will to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarmongerExtraordinare Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 10 минут назад, Sovyul сказал: It seems more like exploitation of good will to me. yeah, too bad that you get chained down when accepting the whole mod gig. no backsies from that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesseract7777 Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 They could quit anytime they want. It is strictly volunteer, but you could also consider it like an internship, no pay, but maybe if the moderator in question has the right resume they will be more likely to consider them for a paid position someday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagPrime Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 1 hour ago, Sovyul said: ...Are required to keep the place relatively clean, therefore their existence is mandatory to maintain the expected functionality of the forum and chat. I'm well aware that this position is voluntary, but even then, I'm confused. Why are they doing it for free? Why isn't DE paying them? If they are essential, they should receive monetary compensation. Just as site maintenance, Is moderation not a job that absolutely needs to be done now? The forum can exist without moderators, but in an absolutely chaotic, borderline unusable state, to the point where DE might even get into legal trouble regarding the content that would be posted here. It's not even charity work, or helping out a small indie company. This is not an animal shelter, lives don't depend on your kindness here. DE has Tencent as a shareholder now as well. It seems more like exploitation of good will to me. You can use moderation experience on your resume. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarl5000 Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 They aren't forced to do it and know what it entails going into it. I would assume they are all adults so can agree to it if they want or not. Plus it is a thing for resume if you were going to go for like a community manager position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)guzmantt1977 Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 I can't speak for them as to why they are doing it, but I know from experience in other places, a lot of the time, it's often done by people because they are aware that it needs to be done. My experiences elsewhere also tell me that most often, the people who make for the best moderators aren't the people who ask to be made moderators, but rather the people who have to be asked to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanaukas Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 I love you guys, I wish it wasn't for free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Crackle2012 Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 I can't speak for all of the moderators, but I'd like to make it clear that nothing I have ever done for them as a volunteer moderator has been forced upon or expected of me, only appreciated. As far as the Tencent thing, that does not in any way change the way I feel about the people who work at Digital Extremes, and those are the people I care about helping when I'm able. I hope this clears up any questions that people may have regarding this! -- Happy Holidays & Happy New year to all! 😊 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)robotwars7 Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 I respect moderators: they deserve to be paid big bucks for some of the stuff they have to deal with. I love you guys, but I wouldn't want to be a moderator myself lol. I don't have the patience for that kind of thing, and I'd probably go full Cartman 10 mins after receiving moderator privileges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Letter13 Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 We don't do it for free. We're paid with the friends we make along the way! On a more serious note, I appreciate the sentiment of advocating for us volunteer moderators to get paid, though it's really not necessary. I don't mind volunteering as a moderator, and I suspect the other volunteer moderators don't either; we wouldn't have volunteered or opted to remain as moderators if we didn't want to help or enjoy helping to keep things clean and tidy. Moderating definitely isn't for everyone though, and sometimes volunteers find out the hard way that they weren't ready for the unique types of stress that come with moderating a gaming community. Some people can handle it, some can't. There are paid moderators, but unlike us volunteers, they are considered DE Staff and wear more than one hat with regards to their duties; we often get in touch with them to discuss issues with moderation, ask for advice/guidance, or to elevate an issue that needs to go beyond the confines of the forums (such as EULA/Terms of Use violations). The long and short of it is that it needs doing, we don't mind (and often enjoy) doing it, and we are fine with volunteering our time to help. And I wasn't kidding about the friends along the way either; I count some of my fellow moderators among my closest friends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aldain Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 All I know is I couldn't be a moderator, I'd be way WAY too quick in just hocking a banhammer at some of these (not even remotely funny) troll accounts that pop up lately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleesus Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 We also only do it when we want to or have spare time, so it’s not draining on our personal lives. I do appreciate the concern on us getting paid but we have gotten a lot out of this in other non-monetary ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)CI shadow2397 Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 10 hours ago, Letter13 said: We don't do it for free. We're paid with the friends we make along the way! Yes good work this week, here’s your check for 5 friends. Left them nicely packaged outside, feel free to pick them up to hang out on your way out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvid Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 Just popping in to voice my appreciation for our green-titled brethren. Even during the rare occasions when we don't see eye to eye, I'm glad you guys (and gals and others) are around to keep the peace. As trite as it sounds to say it, I hope you all keep up the good work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDMblue Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 Wait they are not DE staff and don’t get paid... guys get money. Just something. Im telling you some day some ones going to #*!% up, or they are just going to move all forums to India to deal with and throw you out like used toilet paper. The time to do something about all this time your giving them is now. Don’t wait till they throw you out to get mad about everything you gave them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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