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I'm sure between this week and the next it should drop.

I really miss the cert state on update threads. It really helped in providing a mid-point status update.

Is it in cert right now? Or just in dev? Who knows at this point?

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I've been reading through this chain since the original post and I understand why people were getting annoyed, but I also see it from people defending on the other side. (I'm not saying there are sides, just more for the explanation than anything else.

When DE posted this thread with 'In Dev' instead of the usual 'In Cert' most people freaked out because it wasn't specific. I was one of those people, but tried to remain patient as there is usually another layer that shows itself with time. It would have been good for DE to give a rough timeline like 2 weeks for example as it would have helped those people who were freaking out and give them time to calm down. The other half of this, is we already had a rough idea if we go off of past updates. It usually takes 2-3 weeks for DE to work on an update for consoles, so it would be at minimum today that the update would be released as from today they started work 14 days ago (2 weeks). That would also mean that the update is 1 (2 at max) weeks away from release. DE have also stated that they will give us a release date when they have one, so we will get some heads up.

I know that people freak out when no timeline is given, but at the same time it takes as much time as it will to make the update for consoles. It sucks, but it is what it is. Trust me, I would love to get my Necramechs out with my mates and fight big ol sentients if I could right now, so I get it.

In future, it may be better for DE to explain that 'In Dev' means that they are roughly 2-3 weeks (or whatever the timeline is roughly) to give people an idea of when it will come out instead of all this guess work. If it is stated as a rough estimate, it can be changed and updated as the update is finished off and if there is a delay it will be updated too. I'm sure that small piece of info will go a long way.

To the same regard though, I think that we as a community shouldn't freak out when we get some new news about change. At least 90% of the time it's there to help us in one way or another. It may be surprising at first, but if we calm down we can see the full picture instead of sweating the small changes we fixate on.

I hope this helps clear things up a bit for anyone still reading this chain.

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11 hours ago, (PSN)Stealth_Cobra said:

And it's not yet on consoles.

don't be so impatient. Unless you love HEAVY farming, this event will ruin your will to play quite quickly. I think calling it a sidejob would be closer to what it felt like.

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11 hours ago, (XBOX)Great Senpai said:

Gonna be a month on Wednesday with no update on console and xbox still doesn't have next-gen update either. 

Wonder how much sony paid DE to release it 1st on ps5 or it's probably DE who favors PlayStation. Clearly obvious for years

we still dont have keyboard and mouse supportport when ps4 can use one, u can use one to play fortnight and warthunder no problem... yet they only alow xbox warframe players to rebind, if u think its a favoritism then ur wrong, its just de being lazy

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3 hours ago, (PSN)Hikuro-93 said:

It really helped in providing a mid-point status update

They will be giving us a mid point update in the future for updates. 

 

17 minutes ago, (PSN)Spider_Enigma said:

we still dont have keyboard and mouse supportport when ps4 can use one, u can use one to play fortnight and warthunder no problem... yet they only alow xbox warframe players to rebind, if u think its a favoritism then ur wrong, its just de being lazy

Maybe it's that 95% of the player base is more worried about them fixing bugs. I assume xbox has it implemented quite easily due to it being closer to a computer. 

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11 hours ago, (XBOX)Great Senpai said:

1) Gonna be a month on Wednesday with no update on console and xbox still doesn't have next-gen update either. 

2) Wonder how much sony paid DE to release it 1st on ps5 or it's probably DE who favors PlayStation. Clearly obvious for years

1) This thread is literally an update on console. What do you mean? 

2) Orrrr... the more likely (and simpler) scenario being that there's hiccups with xbox development that slowed their progress there, and instead of making ps5 players wait for no reason, they released what they had to ps5. Could also be issues with Microsoft itself accepting it currently for some unknown reason, although this is less likely. You also have to realise that there was gonna be one that finished first if there was hiccups in one side. It could've been either one, and one side would complain regardless. If xbox got theirs first, ps would complain. You're participating in the vice versa. 

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13 minutes ago, (PSN)Rainbow_Neos1 said:

They will be giving us a mid point update in the future for updates. 

 

Maybe it's that 95% of the player base is more worried about them fixing bugs. I assume xbox has it implemented quite easily due to it being closer to a computer. 

u can move the mouse in the ui already.....

u can fully play the game with a mouse and keyboard, but u have to navigate all the menus with the controller and cant change keybindings at all

its been like that for years, all the way back to the earth remaster if i recall (2017)

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1 minute ago, (PSN)Rainbow_Neos1 said:

You can also use a keyboard with the default bindings as of now. Again, most people don't care for the ability to rebind for KBM because 95% of people use controller.

yes i understand that, but that doesn't change the fact that u barely have enough buttons on the ps4 controller that u have to fight with gear wheels o do anything in the openworld and simply allowing my to rebind hotkeys to a bluetooth keyboard that's worked on my ps4 for 4 years would allow me to free up buttons on the ps4 controller

there s simply no way to not use the power menu, witch makes it so i cant even aim powers well, and without the power menu im taking up my entire dpad with powers, and removing the power menu on consolds brakes fishing entirely unless ur using a mouse and keyboard 

if the controllers had 2 extra buttons this wouldn't be a problem 

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12 hours ago, (PSN)gdk1ng717 said:

Can someone answer this for me? I bought "Tennogen Bundle LII" will I have to buy it again when Round 2 comes around?

Didn't see an answer however, it is likely yes.  As I assume you are asking if when the cosmetics are released will the part 2 of the LII bundle be added to your inventory. 

If you do get them though please let us know as that would be good information to have. 

 

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5 hours ago, (PSN)Rainbow_Neos1 said:

They will be giving us a mid point update in the future for updates. 

Correct, but at this point I find it unclear what "mid-point" actually entails. If that merely means informing us after the update has passed cert it's still not useful imo.

Before, you'd have the "in dev" state, followed by "submited to cert" - usually on fridays, which meant the update is likely to pass early 'next week', and a "passed cert, will release x day", with 'x' usually being tuesday or thursday at the latest. If that supposed mid-point status update is about passing cert, and they actually need to delay the release a few days just to justify calling it a mid-point update (as opposed to releasing asap after cert passes), then I'd say this would be a turn for the worse.

But don't mind my rambling. I'm just trying to plan my life based on te data I have, even if said plans sound pessimistic. Not only is it just speculation, we'll know pretty soon what a "mid-point update" actually means when we see the full picture. Either way I don't mind waiting for polished content.

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2 hours ago, (XBOX)Big Roy 324 said:

Didn't see an answer however, it is likely yes.  As I assume you are asking if when the cosmetics are released will the part 2 of the LII bundle be added to your inventory. 

If you do get them though please let us know as that would be good information to have. 

 

Will do.

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Man this is the longest cert ever! Over two weeks geez, this cuz of next gen cuz waiting nearly 2 months after pc is just way too long and u r gonna lose any hype by then. Consoles are really drying up already with warframe.

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il y a 9 minutes, (PSN)Toolriz a dit :

Man this is the longest cert ever! Over two weeks geez, this cuz of next gen cuz waiting nearly 2 months after pc is just way too long and u r gonna lose any hype by then. Consoles are really drying up already with warframe.

Oh but it's not in cert lol. They are "working" on the update for consoles. 

They wont even tell us when they put the update to cert.

Consoles are'nt good enought it seems

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Estamos todos tristes com o atraso, estamos muito tristes porque não saímos até agora e nem temos data marcada, a DE está fazendo de tudo para lançar em breve, mas They  tive que entender que os Jogadores estão perdendo o hype do evento, já está acontecendo há semanas e eu até tenho um pouco de medo de pensar em atualizações futuras, adoro DE com toda a sua equipe, mas vou dar uma sugestão de FAN, porque não ter duas equipes responsáveis para testar atualizações em consoles para que sejam lançadas no mesmo dia que no PC?: /

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15 minutes ago, (PSN)corpusbonds said:

Unfortunately. 

It's expected at this point. A little overblown yes.  But this same thing was an issue last year.  So I am sure many feel no lessons were learned.

I hope I don't come off so negative though.  Because it seemed as I watched today's stream the outcry has been getting to Danielle. 

Based on my previous prediction I have no problem waiting as I have lots of things I can do in the mean time. It's more the wait for what is starting to feel like second hand catch up updates as development on PC stuff is charging forward quickly.  The next stream showing off corpus railjack and a new warframe are likely to happen on the 29th before we get OV on console. Depending on the amount of hype surrounding the announcement. Players may feel console is getting pushed further back if this update doesn't drop by the following week or sooner.

Looking back though I did see that most updates this last year have been about a month or more behind. Most of them just weren't different enough to warrant the same level of hype this one has.

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17 hours ago, (PSN)Rainbow_Neos1 said:

Again, they don't start console development the day after PC gets their update. They work on PC and get it stable, and then a bit after, they send that much more stable build for console. Then they work on that conversion, and add solution for console specific issues or add newer hotfixes. There is a delay between development of PC and Console. Obviously people don't get that. Maybe that's why they don't understand what this in development thing means for us. 

'Stablizing the PC version' is also in service to developing the console version. Presumably they've even been keeping console in mind as they made the PC version to begin with, even if they weren't working on code, etc. You could call that 'in development' too if you wanted. We don't have a definition for what 'in development' is or any idea how long that usually takes, all they say is: "The update is in development and is being put together and tested for each console platform before sending it to our partners for approval!" which includes so many different steps, that it doesn't give any indication how far along you are in the process. It's just a vague way of saying, 'we're working on it!' which we already had through other means before, such as the twitter and forum posts and various devstreams, even if there wasn't a bar on the front page of the site, spelling it out. I'm not saying this is worse than before, but it's certainly not better. We didn't have any information we didn't have before when they weren't posting anything definite in official areas. Well, I take that back, maybe the players who really just don't pay attention to a single thing about upcoming updates, don't watch streams or look at news or the forum, will find it exciting to see it pop up in-game and wonder what it is, but for everyone else it's pointless, they just gave a name to the silent period before 'in cert' popped up. I mean it could be in certification right now, but it's all lumped together, so we don't know.

People seem to think gamers are impatient people who want things now now now, and I won't deny that sometimes it's true. Gamers can be the worst for sure. But most of the time I think we're willing to wait for something as long as we know when we're going to get it with some certainty. It's when developers are vague or keep moving the dates around that we start getting annoyed or angry.

I can't deny I'm impatient, but I want DE to not rush, to do things properly, and the employees to take care of themselves. Honestly if they considered how much time they think they will need and just added a week to that and gave me a date, I would be happier than this limbo, even if that date is further back than it would be otherwise. Hopefully after this first time of using this 'new system' we will have some better idea of how long this stage is, so it will actually have some value in the future.

 

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4 minutes ago, (PSN)M00n_Slippers said:

'Stablizing the PC version' is also in service to developing the console version. Presumably they've even been keeping console in mind as they made the PC version to begin with, even if they weren't working on code, etc. You could call that 'in development' too if you wanted. We don't have a definition for what 'in development' is or any idea how long that usually takes, all they say is: "The update is in development and is being put together and tested for each console platform before sending it to our partners for approval!" which includes so many different steps, that it doesn't give any indication how far along you are in the process. It's just a vague way of saying, 'we're working on it!' which we already had through other means before, such as the twitter and forum posts and various devstreams, even if there wasn't a bar on the front page of the site, spelling it out. I'm not saying this is worse than before, but it's certainly not better. We didn't have any information we didn't have before when they weren't posting anything definite in official areas. Well, I take that back, maybe the players who really just don't pay attention to a single thing about upcoming updates, don't watch streams or look at news or the forum, will find it exciting to see it pop up in-game and wonder what it is, but for everyone else it's pointless, they just gave a name to the silent period before 'in cert' popped up. I mean it could be in certification right now, but it's all lumped together, so we don't know.

People seem to think gamers are impatient people who want things now now now, and I won't deny that sometimes it's true. Gamers can be the worst for sure. But most of the time I think we're willing to wait for something as long as we know when we're going to get it with some certainty. It's when developers are vague or keep moving the dates around that we start getting annoyed or angry.

I can't deny I'm impatient, but I want DE to not rush, to do things properly, and the employees to take care of themselves. Honestly if they considered how much time they think they will need and just added a week to that and gave me a date, I would be happier than this limbo, even if that date is further back than it would be otherwise. Hopefully after this first time of using this 'new system' we will have some better idea of how long this stage is, so it will actually have some value in the future.

 

I agree I am also very impatient.  I've logged on every day since last monday waiting for any info i can get on the update.  But i look at warframes Twitter and see all the comments and replies on "wheres ov on console plz release de!!!" And i see where the "gamers are impatient" mindsets like that comes from. And i still understand that we people on console definitely got the bad combination of OV releasing two days after the announcement for pc (thus skyrocketing console hype) Christmas and new years holidays, And MLK day which has caused a lot of delays, the new release status leaving us in the dark, and nightwave ending soon could give us a whole lot of nothing to do in-game. Its been a month since pc released and i hope it releases before nightwave ends for that reason. The wait is bearable but the lack of information is not.

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6 hours ago, (PSN)Hikuro-93 said:

Correct, but at this point I find it unclear what "mid-point" actually entails. If that merely means informing us after the update has passed cert it's still not useful imo.

I'd think not considering they said the release date is replacing cert. Then they said they'll do a mid point as well. Those two things being the same thing? Doubt. It could be around the time they put it into cert or soon before. 

 

3 hours ago, (NSW)Lorkhan said:

Oh but it's not in cert lol. They are "working" on the update for consoles. 

They wont even tell us when they put the update to cert.

Consoles are'nt good enought it seems

Bro, would you just got read the edit they did to the update thread. Cert would be pointless with how they're gonna do things now. 

11 hours ago, (PSN)Spider_Enigma said:

If the controllers had 2 extra buttons this wouldn't be a problem 

And yet most people use controller for ease of use considering that's what they play with most on console. It's just not a priority right now in the player base. Perhaps there is some backend reason as well with how messed up the base coding of warframe is. Remember that whole key binding snafu we had? It's very possible that such a thing would happen if they try allowing keyboard keybinds, so they avoided it altogether. They'd have to fix stuff first in that case, but who's to say enough of the player base wants it that much to be worth all that effort that could be put in content bug fixing. 

4 hours ago, (PSN)Toolriz said:

Man this is the longest cert ever! Over two weeks geez, this cuz of next gen cuz waiting nearly 2 months after pc is just way too long and u r gonna lose any hype by then. Consoles are really drying up already with warframe.

It only just hit the two week marker of development. Usually the update delay is 2-3 weeks. Be patient. Not to mention, they've added to hotfixes to this update while it was being worked on. That takes a bit of extra time.

2 hours ago, (XBOX)Big Roy 324 said:

Players may feel console is getting pushed further back if this update doesn't drop by the following week or sooner

I mean.... most updates have a 2-3 week delay from PC to console. Max 4 weeks. This is at the 2 week mark. This is by no means insanely outrageous. 

 

2 hours ago, (XBOX)Big Roy 324 said:

Looking back though I did see that most updates this last year have been about a month or more behind. Most of them just weren't different enough to warrant the same level of hype this one has.

Not most. Some. As of now, ps4/xbox is just as behind as it was last year. This update MAY take a little longer due to them pulling hotfixes from PC as they drop and adding them to the update. That's s good thing imo.

2 hours ago, (PSN)M00n_Slippers said:

Stablizing the PC version' is also in service to developing the console version.

No... the development of console update is them converting the update over to console. There would no reason to put in development if it's always in development (which it isn't). Working on PC updates is not working on console updates. Taking the stable PC update and hotfixes and converting it to console then fixing any console specific bugs is unfounded development for console. 

2 hours ago, (PSN)M00n_Slippers said:

It's when developers are vague or keep moving the dates around that we start getting annoyed or angry.

The reason devs are vague is BECAUSE they don't want to move the date around. They can only estimate when THEY will finish, but they can't estimate when it'll pass cert. Even their own estimations can get thrown off by issues arising in testing. So either they're somewhat vague (which they say they'll rectify to a degree) or they move the date a bunch. People will be salty either way. 

2 hours ago, (PSN)M00n_Slippers said:

Hopefully after this first time of using this 'new system' we will have some better idea of how long this stage is, so it will actually have some value in the future.

And that's what I'm thinking too. This will give us a guideline of what to expect in the future. Next update will be vital for information. 

2 hours ago, (PSN)The_Gentleman_xX said:

sorry your post is nice but it reads as if DE has only been on the mackt for 1 year, which you are not read only 50% of the posts then you know that DE has again made it worse than usual and the players are again powerful in the Butt kicked. That will take revenge!

What? What are you saying?

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