SenorClipClop Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 The Zephyr Deluxe skin, as showed off in Devstream 152, looks phenomenal. I really like it and I'm probably gonna get it. However, part of it annoys me from a game-universe perspective, just a bit. As far as I can recall, Zephyr Deluxe will be the only in-universe use of a modern IRL language*, English. (This of course excludes menu text and character dialogue, which isn't explicitly used in-universe but rather is in modern real language for the sake of the player.) A lot of effort has been put in to show that every literate culture in this far-future Origin System uses their own script (Ostron, Corpus, Grineer, Solari, Orokin/Tenno), implying that the modern scripts we use IRL are gone. But here we have "Zephyr" and "Head in the clouds", printed in English on a Warframe skin. I get that skins are primarily just artsy customization and aren't meant to be lore deposits. I don't think this use of English on Zephyr Deluxe breaks anything, but it does kinda bug me. Thoughts? *As I wrote this, I recall that there was a poster in the latest holiday event that uses the Chinese character 福 , so I guess this also counts as a use of a real modern language. However, this arguably gets a pass, as an item in celebration of an IRL holiday. I don't think anybody is considering holiday items like the Spearmint Scythe and Lepus Headgear to be seriously in-universe canon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rapt0rman Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 Yeah, I would have liked to have seen a sharp, angular version of the Tennobet used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lakais Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 You're not entirely correct. The Unreal Tournament weapon skins, I'm going to venture a guess that this is just a case of handwave it away. But there is also a far more meaningful place where english script is used and that is in naming Railjacks. The names are not converted into any language script. It'd be nice if it did, but Tennobet is kinda weird to write out. As for Zephyr, I really didn't think about that at all! I wouldn't be overly surprised if the artists over at DE also didn't. An awesome design came up and this detail didn't pop up at all during the creation process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSG501 Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 Consistent and related lore started going the way of the dodo years back.... I feel sorry for those that try to keep up with it but the truth is DE will just ignore lore if it means they can put out what they want to put out etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myscho Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 Warframe and lore, heh, thats a wrong neighborhood, they add whatever they like and what is currently cool and bling bling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
--DSP--Jetstream Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 Hope the skin doesnt look like another plastic rubber mix ingame. Also like others mentioned, lore in this game is as flexible as rubber too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fireshock Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 +1, I actually made my own thread about this before I saw yours. I'm glad I'm not the only person who cares about this, and it should be an easy change to swap the text on the textures. It's not like they haven't scrapped skins that break the lore too much before, like the "Proto Weapons". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorClipClop Posted February 28, 2021 Author Share Posted February 28, 2021 21 hours ago, Lakais said: You're not entirely correct. The Unreal Tournament weapon skins, I'm going to venture a guess that this is just a case of handwave it away. But there is also a far more meaningful place where english script is used and that is in naming Railjacks. The Unreal Tournament skins are debatable, since they come from another game where real languages are used. You make a very good point with the Railjack naming. While that does kind of bend the implied lore that real languages are dead (cuz here it is on the side of a spaceship), I think there's a difference in the player naming something they own using real language, and the game itself presenting real language in use. Also, it'd be really cool if we could input a Tennobet name for our Railjacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrayArchon Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 On 2021-02-27 at 1:04 AM, SenorClipClop said: I get that skins are primarily just artsy customization and aren't meant to be lore deposits. I don't think this use of English on Zephyr Deluxe breaks anything, but it does kinda bug me. Thoughts? I agree. I think some of the other things that have been pointed out, like the holiday poster with Chinese text or the proto skins or the Unreal Tournament skins, can be ignored as non-canon, but the deluxe skins are sort of implied to be a part of the lore due to them appearing in the Silver Grove quest, the Leverian, and their flavour text. So the English text / Latin alphabet does annoy me a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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