Vit0Corleone Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 Thanks DE, I really needed to catch up on some Netflix shows /s Seriously thou, I understand the "need" to dumbify, simplify, and making it very easy to appeal to players, but isn't this a bit too much? A properly moded RJ with 2 gunners is all that it takes. The absurd amount of rewards for basically doing nothing ( except collecting loot every once in a while ) is insane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
o0Despair0o Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 Put a Zetki Talyn MK3 on your ventral turrets, and 2 rank 5 gunners. Boom, done. The game plays itself. DE really didn't think this one through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vit0Corleone Posted March 23, 2021 Author Share Posted March 23, 2021 1 minute ago, (XBOX)TyeGoo said: Oh come on.. I've been waiting for command for ages now.. Don't get it utterly nerfed into uselessness before it even launched on console.. Do you want to play the game, or watch Netflix? :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaotyke Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 I put this issue there in the Feedback thread. While the AI's accuracy is debatable, the TARGET ACQUISITION is far too fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trst Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 No this is exactly what was expected. RJ launched with the storm of "too hard release command already!!1!" and they went and nerfed every aspect of it before the command tree was made. And now, as everyone expected, command went and made the mode even easier. And honestly having the ability to afk through it is probably still too hard for the players that found it "literally impossible" in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airwolfen Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 3 minutes ago, (XBOX)TyeGoo said: I want my ship to not die off when I have to leave it :P that's my hope with command.. Tell me please that that's also the case with the update 😢 I left my ship in heavy fire with a lich defender and 2 engineers on board. Breach popped a few times but they fixed it easily. So yeah. It works. The main objective in corpus veil also just stops outside combat en general. So no issues at all while doing those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
o0Despair0o Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 7 minutes ago, Kaotyke said: I put this issue there in the Feedback thread. While the AI's accuracy is debatable, the TARGET ACQUISITION is far too fast. Which is exactly why the Talyn (or any hitscan weapon for that matter) is OP on gunners - they don't need to aim. They just point at it and nuke it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volkeris Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 You're not getting any valuables from that though, so I don't see the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaotyke Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 10 minutes ago, trst said: No this is exactly what was expected. RJ launched with the storm of "too hard release command already!!1!" and they went and nerfed every aspect of it before the command tree was made. And now, as everyone expected, command went and made the mode even easier. And honestly having the ability to afk through it is probably still too hard for the players that found it "literally impossible" in the past. Aint that the truth... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vit0Corleone Posted March 23, 2021 Author Share Posted March 23, 2021 1 minute ago, Volkeris said: You're not getting any valuables from that though, so I don't see the problem. A ton of t3 wreckage isn't valuable? What are valuables to you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STUVash Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 il y a 30 minutes, Vit0Corleone a dit : Thanks DE, I really needed to catch up on some Netflix shows /s Seriously thou, I understand the "need" to dumbify, simplify, and making it very easy to appeal to players, but isn't this a bit too much We saw it coming, the idea (back then at least regarding most Difficulty talks we had on forums) was that players who wanted a harder difficulty would not go the easy way and the players who had trouble or wanted to relax would take shortcuts to solve their problems. Sooo... Technically, everyone would be happy if they know what they're doing. Besides, the game doesn't exactly break for the whole server if one guy has a whole lot of credits and endo. He'd still be spending time farming just while being afk instead. It's not like being afk was giving him infinite credits or endo instantly. But yeah it does look dumb just as expected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kontrollo Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 Homer's drinking bird at it again? I am shocked. Shocked! How could that possibly happen in this game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slayer-. Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 14 minutes ago, trst said: No this is exactly what was expected. RJ launched with the storm of "too hard release command already!!1!" and they went and nerfed every aspect of it before the command tree was made. And now, as everyone expected, command went and made the mode even easier. And honestly having the ability to afk through it is probably still too hard for the players that found it "literally impossible" in the past. Had my ship was built before the update landed, I played railjack in CO-OP from the start to build up my ship then went solo, in between helping out others without a ship, it was good then a while later players crying it was too hard so DE made it into easy mode and increased the drop rates for stuff which took ages in the old days to get the basics in any numbers. With command I like to leave my lich and two hires as engineers so I can just go off and do the missions. I see with your video if you suddenly nod zzZZz off after a heavy day your crew has your back. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samaban Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 Yesterday you had difficulties completing orphix on Venus with the standard mechs, in your opinion they shouldn't be required to complete railjack nodes. Today railjack it's to easy to a point you can afk to get mods and wreckage... People are awesome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brinstar7777 Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 59 minutes ago, Vit0Corleone said: Thanks DE, I really needed to catch up on some Netflix shows /s Seriously thou, I understand the "need" to dumbify, simplify, and making it very easy to appeal to players, but isn't this a bit too much? A properly moded RJ with 2 gunners is all that it takes. The absurd amount of rewards for basically doing nothing ( except collecting loot every once in a while ) is insane. An idea to fix this: reinforcements. As the mission progresses, enemies will gradually become more numerous and increase in level. The end result is that if you go AFK for too long, the enemy will cause a hull breach that the crew doesn't have the resources to repair and the mission will end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeroX4 Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 1 hour ago, Vit0Corleone said: Thanks DE, I really needed to catch up on some Netflix shows /s Seriously thou, I understand the "need" to dumbify, simplify, and making it very easy to appeal to players, but isn't this a bit too much? A properly moded RJ with 2 gunners is all that it takes. The absurd amount of rewards for basically doing nothing ( except collecting loot every once in a while ) is insane. Add to title (AKA AFK Endo Farm) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vit0Corleone Posted March 23, 2021 Author Share Posted March 23, 2021 1 minute ago, samaban said: Yesterday you had difficulties completing orphix on Venus with the standard mechs, in your opinion they shouldn't be required to complete railjack nodes. Today railjack it's to easy to a point you can afk to get mods and wreckage... People are awesome! That's not true. I welcome difficulty very much. I loved the challenging Railjack on release, finished everything before DE made it easy with the first "revisit". My remark was related to how entire Railjack planets are locked behind Mechs/Deimos, since it's not possible to progress beyond Neptune if you don't own one. I will be able to progress in 3 days when my Mech finishes building. Waiting isn't "hard", it's just annoying and makes no sense for Mechs to block Railjack progression. But that's just my opinion, so YMMV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiky Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 IIRC there are laying unused basic mechs on the floor in those Orphix missions. So you are not required to have your own mech. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volkeris Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 44 minutes ago, Vit0Corleone said: A ton of t3 wreckage isn't valuable? What are valuables to you? It's not a ton, no need to exaggerate. And it really isn't considering you only get zetki garbage from normal ships. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vit0Corleone Posted March 23, 2021 Author Share Posted March 23, 2021 5 minutes ago, Smiky said: IIRC there are laying unused basic mechs on the floor in those Orphix missions. So you are not required to have your own mech. There are, but they are very weak. I do better with my Operator than I do with those free Mechs. Try it yourself solo if you're curious. Spoiler: I've been told that the conditions aren't the same as they were on the Event, so don't expect it to be the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngryBAsian Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 Have one on repair and 2 on defense and you can actually afk It won,'t finish the mission for you but you won't fail either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venus-Venera Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 and? wukong can also farm "afk" missions with macros. but it is hardly worth it. and what for? if i play actively i'm much better off. and rewards from "afk" missions are only of interest to beginners. when it comes to exp, you get it by the way ...? and everything is maxed too quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vit0Corleone Posted March 23, 2021 Author Share Posted March 23, 2021 2 minutes ago, Battle.Mage said: and? wukong can also farm "afk" missions with macros. but it is hardly worth it. and what for? if i play actively i'm much better off. and rewards from "afk" missions are only of interest to beginners. when it comes to exp, you get it by the way ...? and everything is maxed too quickly. Well, I guess it's just a matter of opinion. Took me one hour to fully max out all the t3 Railjack components/armaments and get all the mods. Basically by not playing. In comparison, when Railjack first released, this would have taken weeks of actively playing. I think the purpose of a game is to play it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venus-Venera Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 vor 8 Minuten schrieb Vit0Corleone: Well, I guess it's just a matter of opinion. Took me one hour to fully max out all the t3 Railjack components/armaments and get all the mods. Basically by not playing. In comparison, when Railjack first released, this would have taken weeks of actively playing. I think the purpose of a game is to play it. and what is stopping you? you would hardly want or be able to play difficult missions afk ... if you take away crew, railjack becomes a desert again. you showed that simple missions are possible ... ok. but what do you want to change ?! if people wanted to play "afk", there were heaps of bot programs with monthly paid subscriptions. YES! but apparently there is no demand for it. because for other games a lot of people pay 30-200 € per month. i know a lot of examples here. and which coder team would miss something like that ... warframe devs seem to do a lot right after all, don't they? or what ever. everyone has their own opinion and i don't mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rantear Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 What a great ship you have, would be a shame if someone were to.... Ring your doorbell. Seriously, why does when i try to do that, i always get boarded..... I'm also not saying this for no reason.DO NOT ask for nerf of the crew, best solution is to give ramsleds evasion against AI gunners, engineer will eventually go down, if ship gets boarded repeatedly, while being constantly shot by the crewships. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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