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Corpus Proxima & The New Railjack: Hotfix 29.10.10


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Let's add a part two to today's turd sandwich.  So we are clear, I'm sticking with my statement that DE is going to pay for this level of crap on the PC.

 

So, two hard locks.  What is a hard lock?  I can enter the star system map, highlight a mission, but it never starts.  That's a solo mission, and clicking the force start button is somehow disabled.  It's also being in a mission, and unable to access the menu.  Yes, pressing the escape key is simply not recognized.

 

Let's top that off with absolutely whacky affinity gains.  I ran all 8 ESO round for the nightwave....and I got 100k on round 8.  I then checked at the end of the ninth round (yay portal spawning on top of me), and my total was about 110k  That....does that mean DE cannot do basic math within the game?  Combined with the phantom affinity and syndicate standing for railjack, that seems like A CRITICAL BUG.

 

Now, what about Railjack?  It seems like going back to the grineer missions is actively idiotic.  Let me highlight the fun bits.  The drops for grineer seem to be heavily weighted to mods and resources, and the enemies are tankier.  The Corpus seem to reward just nutty amounts of wreckage, ad even with their eHP being higher they are still less idiotically bullet spongey than the grineer.  You also don't have to build 1-2 helpings of Dome Charges, so the Corpus missions are easier, more rewarding, and fail to require the engineer grind (because apparently the ship designated engineer just doesn't like to craft anymore).

 

What about regular missions?  Well, it seems like more rooms are overlapping than ever before.  What I mean by this is that areas are blocked off because the extended bits of one room literally jut into another.  It's almost like this update borked more systems than it introduced.  Combine that with certain tiles having something like a syndicate medallion spawn in an area that the game seems to consider out of bounds (Ceres, Lex), forcing you to respawn without giving you the ability to pick the thing up, and I'm pretty surprised that anybody there has decided that this is "good enough" to stop updates on.

 

 

Let me close out, in a similar fashion to what you've done here.  Steam is the platform that offers real tracking of users, that the public has access to.  You've got 11 updates thus far with 29.10.x.  The uplift in average players for the month of March was about 4k people.  That's an update, Easter, and the announcement of both your anniversary and 30.0 being delayed into April.  It's almost like even a PC exclusive update can only spark about a 10% uptick in players.  While I appreciate your honesty, the communication coming from your team sucks and has no thought behind it.  Please don't stop update.  We need at least one more, with some of the big lingering STABILITY issues addressed.  If the rest of this month is going to be with this release as "good enough" then it's going to just be enough for people.  Your former support base on Youtube is finding it difficult to sell this...which should really tell you that things are bad.  These same supporters defended things like mod drop chance boosters, but now can't swallow a content update because it's just a mess.

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2 hours ago, SaveCuboid said:

This is not just a bug in the forge, its a bug across the entire Ui system since the railjack patch.  Its like the entire Ui system is loading something and the game hitches whenever anything switches in the menu's like forge or the arsenal. 

When switching between builds/appearane in the arsenal its most noticable especially if you have 6 different builds or fashions and have different helminth skills on the different builds.  If you start switching between them you can basically cause the entire game to start having 3second freezes with just a few clicks back and forth.  And this is with a good computer, i would imagine slower computers or when this system rolls out to console its going to completely break something.

Yeah, I figured it wasn't just my computer, it even did the delay when I was attempting to open a PM with another player

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vor 10 Stunden schrieb Voltage:

Thank you for the hotfix.

Any chance we could remove the house system from Armaments? A huge issue with Armaments is the fact there are 3 different options of every weapon except 2 of those options are automatically fodder making 2/3rds of the system rather pointless.

I beg to differ. We have no meaningless option through the house system if we look at armaments.

The house is the deciding factor for the supplemental stats of each weapon. There  is a difference  between status and crit based arnaments. 

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Please respond to my previous request; do we post our issues needing fixing to your current Trello Board, or do we wait for you to eventually (potentially) make a Trello board for them and hope that you'll act on any changes we've been requesting for years?


I'm tired of this.
Give us a response so we can give you accurate info in the right place, else deprecate your bug report forums as they're ignored, and work to fix issues you have ALSO ignored for years.

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What about the fact that RS press while in Archwing or Razorwing on controllers is still forcibly bound to "move down" and has to be remapped manually every single time?

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14 hours ago, AIAS-5 said:

The key binding to unmount from a Railjack helm/turret seems to be hardcoded to [X], leading to confusion if you generally use a different key binding for "Use" than [X].

I'm using different keybind just fine. Maybe it's a problem with yours particular choice ([Alt] as I understand). 

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15 hours ago, Voltage said:

Any chance we could remove the house system from Armaments? A huge issue with Armaments is the fact there are 3 different options of every weapon except 2 of those options are automatically fodder making 2/3rds of the system rather pointless. Reducing the Armaments pool would make farming them feel better (higher drop chances) and requiring 2 of each to have options to equip them on Front/Side guns wouldn't be as much of a hassle. It would also be much easier for developers to balance or tweak items if necessary.

I don't see how this could be a "huge issue". In fact I think the current setup is a "best of two worlds"-system.

Playing Railjack will net you a ton of Zetki (weapon) parts, so maxing out all Zetki-versions (to 60%) is an almost automatic process (you play => you will get them). The Zetki weapons' stats are also quite good, so for once the overwhelmingly most common weapons are up there among the best = "the best" is easily available for all. For those that do not manage "Mk III"-space (for some unfathomable reason) there is even the option of researching and buying Sigma weaponry (which also is "good enough").

If you want the option to min-max your Railjack weaponry with bonuses, added crit etc., you can also do that by farming the two other alternatives (Vidar & Lavan). Currently the enemy levels and the fact that all weapons share the same damage type composition makes this more of an academic endeavour (since all weapons, even the Sigma series, efficiently kills all current enemies anyhow). However, the possibility is still there for those that want it (like me). And there really are differences when you dig under the hood. Which is fun.

So, I can see no valid reason why the diversity should be reduced by compressing 3 or 4 Railjack weapons into 1, as it serves no real purpose. There is the "completionist" psychological aspect in the form of "the urge to have everything" (from which I also suffer), but with enough experience and soul-gazing that can be tempered with an (I'll get it) "over time"-aspect. With a current system that works well for everyone (though completionists might need some psychiatric support, as always 🙂), I fail to see the benefits of replacing diversity with a maximally simplified "only one option available"-solution.

I also think your "fodder" valuation is wrong, both regarding Railjack weapons and Warframe overall. Concerning Railjack weapons, the "best in class" differs between manufacturers, depending on damage type, vulnerabilities, Plexus composition and if you go for pure DPS, "total dmg output until overheat" or other aspects (like "freezing" enemies). Concerning Warframe overall, logically applying the same "remove fodder"-concept to all weaponry would remove 95% of the current weapons, keeping the approx. 5% meta. It could even be further applied to companions. That seems like a very strange concept for a game where the sheer diversity is a fundamental core strength.

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16 hours ago, [DE]Megan said:

Fixes:

 

  • Ran a script to correct player Profile stats with regards to Modular item Ranks.

    • Warframe tracks item progression in two different ways, the item itself for Ranks and Mastery, and then your Profile stats.  Players recently noticed that their Profile was not tracking Modular items, this was due to the stats being submitted to the wrong part of the item. In Hotfix 29.10.8 we fixed the upload so that new stats are sent to the correct item, and this script now fixes “bad” data that was previously sent to the Profile. Your Modular items should now be in sync and show the correct Ranks.

This worked until I did a mission, now all the modular item stats are broken again.

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16 часов назад, Voltage сказал:

Thank you for the hotfix.

Any chance we could remove the house system from Armaments? A huge issue with Armaments is the fact there are 3 different options of every weapon except 2 of those options are automatically fodder making 2/3rds of the system rather pointless. Reducing the Armaments pool would make farming them feel better (higher drop chances) and requiring 2 of each to have options to equip them on Front/Side guns wouldn't be as much of a hassle. It would also be much easier for developers to balance or tweak items if necessary.

IMHO the manufacturers should just be sidegrades with different stats, rather than just upgrades. Its clear that Zetki is the superior manufacturer now, but i'm not a big fan of high fire rate. I prefer to hit slow, but steady.

This already makes Vidar somewhat a more preferable option for me subjectively, but its still clear that Zetki is simply superior DPS wise. If Vidar was to be buffed just a little bit more...

The question is what to do with Lavan. If Zetki is superior fire rate, and Vidar is a superior stopping power, than what should Lavan be? Infinite ammo capacity? Nobody will use that. Maybe increased critical / status chance or something like that?

Or, if we go maximum oversipmlifcation... Different guns could belong to different manufacturers.
I.e.: Vidar makes slow, but hard-hitting weapons (shotguns, cannons), Zetki makes weapons with high fire rate (autocannons, machine guns), and Lavan could be producing anything that shoots beams or any other weird projectiles like Vort.

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Thanks for the fixes. I am still having trouble with constant stuttering after prime access came out. It was fixed with the star days patch right before that. I've tried several fixes in the sticky and around the forum from other posters.

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Railjack already feels dead again. Got most of the new mods and railjack parts, so theres zero reason to play it anymore. The Neptune derelict cache rewards are diluted like crazy, so I'll just forget getting the Nautilus.

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Well we still have the focus system outputting incorrect numbers of gained focus than received, (tab to check the actual numbers), plus on eidolon runs the lures are attaching themselves to the eidolons' limbs however close you manage to get...ffs DE step up your game.. this isnt acceptable!

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Thanks for your focus on the fixes but there is 1 problem need to be fix and i think it happen to almost all players in middle East when we enter the dojo for Trade the game put each player in different lobby like you can't see anyone in chat or in your lobby you enter so you can't find anyone to trade with and iam sure this problem is not only with me so please check this and fix it it's been 1 full week no one talked about this in your fixes or videos 

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Since Hotfix 29.10.8, ,more than 450 player in my clan unable to see anyone in my dojo or in the trade post, so I decided to trade in Maroos Bazaar. When I got there I couldnt see anyone there even my squad mates and I couldnt even see myself in the chat I thought I was the only one experiencing this problem so I asked a handful of my friends and apparently they are also experiencing the same problem (cant see other tenno in relay or in dojo, so they can`t trade)

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6 hours ago, -Augustus- said:

Are you, though?

Hmm....  Fair.

 

Allow me to be less optimistic.  I cannot believe that DE pushed yet another update that is so half baked onto a player base already demonstrating they're tired of being pre-alpha testers.  This is inviting more people to simply log out and never return, because if DE cannot get things stable and running after two weeks and enough hotfixes to be comically inept then there's no reason anybody should spend real money.  

For the price of the middle tier prime access (the one with all of the content at the cheapest price....because fashionframe is just insanely expensive), I could get literally any other AAA title new.  I could also wait for the 2+ years some of the promised features of warframe have taken, and get about 10 AAA titles for that amount assuming they're on sale.  

 

 

I was incorrect in my wording.  Thank you for asking that question, and forcing some introspection.  

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17 hours ago, DragoonStorm1 said:

hm now I'm actually motivated to go for 100% completion for the first time in a really long time.

Welcome to the Insane Guild of Completionists 🙂🤪!

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9 hours ago, Quantum_Blur said:

Yeah, I figured it wasn't just my computer, it even did the delay when I was attempting to open a PM with another player

PLUS as I have repeatedly mentioned is a number of posts and bug reports; the frame-rates have tanked (in the ORBITER no less...which is like a slide show now).

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20 hours ago, Rawbeard said:

- The key binding to unmount from a Railjack helm/turret seems to be hardcoded to [X], leading to confusion if you generally use a different key binding for "Use" than [X].

I gotta add on that the fix should not be made hardcoded to the use and allow it to be separate as I like having the rolling on q and e while my use button is e.

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