(NSW)Zardigol Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 il y a une heure, kyori a dit : I'm curious why the ducat value will change. Can you please explain? I think it's because to create new relics... When there are too many rare parts, they must have to create one relic for each rare part... So if there are too many, they could make at least 4 or 5 relics (one of each era, or 5 like with Banshee and Mirage with 2 axi) for the prime vault if they change the value and the rarity of these I have no other explanation for this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiltskillet Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 44 minutes ago, ECACA said: So, after you are able to use relics to get your parts, and you have all these extra. Now they are being Lowered in Ducats? Booo It does suck for people who don't see the announcement or can't get in game in the next few days. Otherwise, that's why they're announcing it, and why you turn those parts into ducats now if ducats are what you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
--Nightcore-- Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 Well that might need to open more relic to get 100 ducats , even tired then before . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragingterror Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 2 hours ago, --SV--Reaper said: Still confused as to why Chroma and Zephyr were chosen to unvault Best guess: In addition to Zephyr getting a full rework, Chroma also (somewhat) recently had some minor adjustments made to his ability set. Additionally, it has been noted that unvaultings often have a theme behind them. A great recent example of this is the Ember/Frost vault that came before the current one (Fire & Ice). In this case, the theme would be... Bird and Dragon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MilkyMichael Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 I was sure that saryn and zephyr would be the ones getting unvaulted, i was half right at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)MonteHighWater Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 2 hours ago, --SV--Reaper said: Still confused as to why Chroma and Zephyr were chosen to unvault Well they both got reworks recently so why not pull out the prime versions so everyone can have a chance to not get gutted on the market Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(NSW)Zardigol Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 il y a 46 minutes, Ragingterror a dit : Best guess: In addition to Zephyr getting a full rework, Chroma also (somewhat) recently had some minor adjustments made to his ability set. Additionally, it has been noted that unvaultings often have a theme behind them. A great recent example of this is the Ember/Frost vault that came before the current one (Fire & Ice). In this case, the theme would be... Bird and Dragon? In this case, it could be the 4 elements, approximately ... If we say that water can be associated with the ice for Chroma, and for the wind it's zephyr? We don't have the "element" water, or "wind" like fire or ice with elemental damage, but we "can" replace it somehow... for the representation And poison is a bonus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 Does these changes mean they will become permanent unvaulted in Railjack as Valkyr and Nyx? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)iuvenilis Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 1 hour ago, Jessie said: Does these changes mean they will become permanent unvaulted in Railjack as Valkyr and Nyx? No, the chroma/zephyr unvaulting will replace the current mirage/banshee unvaulting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duality52 Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 4 hours ago, [DE]Danielle said: Zephyr Prime Blueprint - 100 down to 65 Zephyr Prime Chassis - 45 down to 25 Chroma Prime Systems - 100 down to 65 Chroma Prime Chassis - 45 down to 25 Tiberon Prime Blueprint - 45 down to 25 Tiberon Prime Barrel - 100 down to 65 Rubico Prime Barrel - 45 down to 25 To clarify the rarity changes for everyone (left currently, right after Unvaulting): Zephyr Prime (2 Rare, 1 Uncommon, 1 Common) to (1 Rare (Systems), 1 Uncommon (BP), and 2 Common (Neuroptics & Chassis)) Tiberon Prime (2 Rare, 1 Uncommon, 1 Common) to (1 Rare (Stock), 1 Uncommon (Barrel), and 2 Common (BP & Receiver)) Chroma Prime (2 Rare, 1 Uncommon, 1 Common) to (1 Rare (Neuroptics), 1 Uncommon (Systems), and 2 Common (BP & Chassis)) Rubico Prime (1 Rare, 2 Uncommon, 1 Common) to (1 Rare (BP), 1 Uncommon (Stock), and 2 Common (Barrel & Receiver)). In other words, Zephyr Prime, Chroma Prime, Tiberon Prime, and somewhat the Rubico Prime are a lot easier to get by having a more common rarity once the Unvaulting arrives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grinalbi Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 I know that many people (including myself) have been questioning why Chroma is getting unvaulted - especially so soon - and I actually wonder if some of the older primes like Mag Prime are going to be added to missions like Valkyr and Nyx were. Could explain why they've been skipping over them despite how long some of them have been vaulted. Also, I have a question related to that. Since Valkyr and Nyx Prime are now acquirable in missions iirc, how are the devs planning to handle the prime packs that came with them (like the accessories)? I might've missed an official answer so if I did then my bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hidden41 Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 8 hours ago, kyori said: I'm curious why the ducat value will change. Can you please explain? Normal relics have any unvaulted items of that time period inside them as rewards. When DE wants to unvault some vaulted items, they create brand new relics as "unvault relics" which contains only unvaulted items inside them as rewards. Bcuz of that, most of the time those relics have some blank space issues on their drops even if some blank spaces are filled with "forma BP" drop. In order to fix that issue by not adding a lot of new relics, they change rarity of the items and make them have "different rarity at same time". In this case "Zephyr Prime Blueprint" for example. They will change the rarity of that item from "rare/gold" to both "rare/gold" and "uncommon/silver" at the same time. And as a result the ducat value will be changed as well to reflect the new rarity, from 100 to 60. Dont ask me why they dont find a better way to fix that issue w/o changing item rarity and ducat price, i dont like the ducat value decrease on items either :S 2 hours ago, Grinalbi said: Also, I have a question related to that. Since Valkyr and Nyx Prime are now acquirable in missions iirc, how are the devs planning to handle the prime packs that came with them (like the accessories)? I might've missed an official answer so if I did then my bad. They probably will unvault them like everythin else. Valk and Nyx are like every other availabe prime items now imo. They are not on prime access, they are not on unvault rotation. Just like Wukong, Atlas, Ivara, Titania, Inaros and Nezha, not on prime access not on unvault rotation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Augustus- Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 4 hours ago, (PSN)MonteHighWater said: Well they both got reworks recently so why not pull out the prime versions so everyone can have a chance to not get gutted on the market lol For the price stuff like Loki, Rhino, and Saryn have been going for, you could buy both a chroma prime set and a zephyr prime set with plenty of plat left over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurizen Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 just hoping for the Prime Part fix on Chroma's Immortal skin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sysalchemist Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 7 hours ago, (XBOX)Greenguy5000 said: that is not how it works and is wholly innacurate, mag has been vaulted FOR TWO YEARS without an unvault Exactly my thoughts. Mag and rhino were what i thought would unvault Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenzorTheRed Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 Parts worth less ducats are annoying when trying to farm ducats for Baro. Why oh why would you make more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Electropuncher Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 10 hours ago, 60framespersecond said: I'm more curious about why in god's name Chroma... Rubico and Gram Prime are literally meta-defining in their categories. ...It's not a good reason, but it's a reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikoneo Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 Zephyr was always going to be unvaulted, but why dragon boy? Loki prime is in a desperate need of an unvault with the changes to obtaining, it's such an absurdly expensive prime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodbon Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 so... what parts will raise the price, i save some more...😊 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jyhaz Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 13 hours ago, FuriousRat32 said: Imagine seeing chroma getting out of the vault, while mag has been lost in there for more than 2 years Or Loki who has been vaulted since dinosaurs roamed the plains of the eidolon and early tenno were still living in caves trying to invent fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)CFG SatanDevil Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 vor einer Stunde schrieb Jyhaz: Or Loki who has been vaulted since dinosaurs roamed the plains of the eidolon and early tenno were still living in caves trying to invent fire. Loki was unvaulted around 2years ago or not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jukantos Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 vor 20 Stunden schrieb [DE]Danielle: Greetings Teeno! With the upcoming unvaulting of Chroma and Zephyr Prime, we are making some changes to their components that we want you to be aware of. On Tuesday, April 27 at 2 p.m. ET, the rarity of various pieces are being adjusted, and therefore their Ducat prices are changing as well. Please read the list below for all the changes. Zephyr Prime Blueprint - 100 down to 65 Zephyr Prime Chassis - 45 down to 25 Chroma Prime Systems - 100 down to 65 Chroma Prime Chassis - 45 down to 25 Tiberon Prime Blueprint - 45 down to 25 Tiberon Prime Barrel - 100 down to 65 Rubico Prime Barrel - 45 down to 25 Our goal here is to provide you with as much warning as possible, as we’ve done in the past, so that you can better plan your next batch of Prime part selling with the upcoming changes. Thanks Tenno! Can we please add additional ducats to relics when you pick an item that no longer pays the full 15/45/100 appropriate for the selected tier? Doing so would add reward consistency across all relics AND maintain ye olde promise that our key collections would "maintain their value" after relic conversion... as the owner of 400+ relics which have gold items worth 25 ducats this promise is currently rather unfulfilled. Thank you and have a lovely weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)SergioMApt Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 On 2021-04-23 at 9:01 PM, --SV--Reaper said: Still confused as to why Chroma and Zephyr were chosen to unvault The Spice must flow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)JayBlood_95 Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 On 2021-04-23 at 11:01 PM, --SV--Reaper said: Still confused as to why Chroma and Zephyr were chosen to unvault My guess would be that both got rework, chroma got rework after last summer and zephyr... Yea abit dissapointed about chroma being unvaulted after less than year and was hoping 4 something i could have more use to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)maurice1600 Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 On 2021-04-23 at 1:11 PM, (NSW)Lorkhan said: I dont think we need to explain Zephyr. She just got a rework so she was 100% sure to come out of the Vault. Chroma on the other hand is curious one. Warframe likes to have a theme to their unvaults like nyx and rhino brawn and brain or ember and frost fire and ice, so maybe chroma and zephyr is aerial predators bird and dragon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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