JackHargreav Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 I'm really curious how effective that ability is on her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Apoleon_amarr Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 Clearly not as effective as eclipse, you can kill a juggernaut behemoth lvl 160 with one slide attack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godzilla853 Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 Something I noticed with glom is that with the increased slow it reduces damage, at least that is what I saw on lichs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quxier Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 28 minutes ago, (PSN)Apoleon_amarr said: Clearly not as effective as eclipse, you can kill a juggernaut behemoth lvl 160 with one slide attack Isn't Gloom more defensive ability (slowness + healing)? As for OP, I don't see why you need Gloom on her. Her 4th would heal you and you become immortal (almost the same as high value Slowness). It has some "slowness" ability but maybe you want to change this one. Still if you want to run 4th & Gloom you may need a lot of energy. Gloom is pretty "ok" for energy but 2 abilities might not work. ps. I haven't yet subsumed Sevagoth. Unless someone gift it to me I'm not sure when I'm gonna subsume it. So this are just "thoughts". Take it with grain of salt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaotyke Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 24 minutes ago, Godzilla853 said: Something I noticed with glom is that with the increased slow it reduces damage, at least that is what I saw on lichs. It does, its a bit of a waste in frames with high range that need damage to keep energy up. Enemies will hit you less so its less energy gain which can result in the drain being higher than the recovery. Like my Nidus build, its pure Range and Strength and it just cant keep up unless I lower the range, but then it becomes detrimental to all other powers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReddyDisco Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 I did but its like strapping a turtle shell on a turtle, no point in reducing damage when she doesn't take damage much in the first place. Breach surge Valkyr is still my No1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarriaga Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 Have not tried as I don't see the benefit over a high efficiency Fire Blast caster build (Permanent armor strip + CO primer for Hysteria). I did put Gloom in Umbra though, and it has made wonders for his survivability. I can't die unless I get one-shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackHargreav Posted April 29, 2021 Author Share Posted April 29, 2021 37 minutes ago, quxier said: Isn't Gloom more defensive ability (slowness + healing)? As for OP, I don't see why you need Gloom on her. Her 4th would heal you and you become immortal (almost the same as high value Slowness). It has some "slowness" ability but maybe you want to change this one. Still if you want to run 4th & Gloom you may need a lot of energy. Gloom is pretty "ok" for energy but 2 abilities might not work. ps. I haven't yet subsumed Sevagoth. Unless someone gift it to me I'm not sure when I'm gonna subsume it. So this are just "thoughts". Take it with grain of salt. Well I thought since it heals the frame an enetral warcry Valkyr might benefit more from Gloom. My melee weapons can already shred enemies so I don't see the point of using Hysteria. But Life steal just takes up a slot and it's kinda not great for a frame that constantly gets hit. So the idea is giving Valkyr more defense cc and Heal. But it might sound nice on paper while in practice it might be useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SneakyErvin Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 What I'm wondering (since I havent bothered to look) is how it interacts with Lavos. Does it have a set duration on him or is it a permanent toggle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NinjaZeku Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 6 minutes ago, JackHargreav said: Well I thought since it heals the frame an enetral warcry Valkyr might benefit more from Gloom. My melee weapons can already shred enemies so I don't see the point of using Hysteria. But Life steal just takes up a slot TBH, this reads a bit weird to me. You want healing, on a Frame that already gets healing for free (as in no Mods needed) on their ability weapon, but you choose to not use that ability and instead slap a whole other ability onto the Frame to heal it. *shrug* BTW, as for slowing down enemies, you could try Creeping Terrify, that one (stacks with Warcry and) doesn't even need a whole lot of Strength for a massive slowdown (and further CC) effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarriaga Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 15 minutes ago, SneakyErvin said: What I'm wondering (since I havent bothered to look) is how it interacts with Lavos. Does it have a set duration on him or is it a permanent toggle? Set duration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarriaga Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 1 hour ago, ReddyDisco said: I did but its like strapping a turtle shell on a turtle, no point in reducing damage when she doesn't take damage much in the first place. Breach surge Valkyr is still my No1 Breach Surge? Interesting. How does this build work? What's the combo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReddyDisco Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 9 minutes ago, Jarriaga said: Breach Surge? Interesting. How does this build work? What's the combo? its not really a combo, its more of a damage muilti with stealth damage and cc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarriaga Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 1 minute ago, ReddyDisco said: its not really a combo, its more of a damage muilti with stealth damage and cc Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackHargreav Posted April 29, 2021 Author Share Posted April 29, 2021 1 hour ago, NinjaZeku said: TBH, this reads a bit weird to me. You want healing, on a Frame that already gets healing for free (as in no Mods needed) on their ability weapon, but you choose to not use that ability and instead slap a whole other ability onto the Frame to heal it. *shrug* BTW, as for slowing down enemies, you could try Creeping Terrify, that one (stacks with Warcry and) doesn't even need a whole lot of Strength for a massive slowdown (and further CC) effect. I find her 4th not worth it. If it was stronger I would use it but in it's current state, no. It's really crappy without it's augment mod. So yeah basically I thought it might be a better option as it slow down enemies better than warcry while giving me healing. So I don't have to jump in and out of Hysteria just to heal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)CaptainSeth5423 Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 Not related to topic but I really want to try gloom + volt. It's not really a Meta build but more a fun build. It's based on his speed + slowing enemies near him which basically shows him running at super speed. Am currently building sevagoth to subsume him so am pumped to use it with volt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarriaga Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 18 minutes ago, (XBOX)CaptainSeth5423 said: but more a fun build. Follow your heart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)CaptainSeth5423 Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 23 minutes ago, Jarriaga said: Follow your heart. Thanks. I hardly find some positivity in the forums nowadays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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