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No they aren’t, mainly because the files for them haven’t been released yet, so TennoGen artists cannot create them. It was said by DE that they were looking to implement them, but it’s unknown when at this point. Especially with the upcoming Duviri Paradox probably further complexing things. 

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On 2021-05-14 at 1:43 PM, Scruffel said:

No they aren’t, mainly because the files for them haven’t been released yet, so TennoGen artists cannot create them. It was said by DE that they were looking to implement them, but it’s unknown when at this point. Especially with the upcoming Duviri Paradox probably further complexing things. 

thanks for your reply

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the issue is, you going to need the body itself as a base to make a suit around it, and i would imagine therewill be some deranged people making inapropriate outfit submissions.

i do recall a few years back someone pointed at nakak lower section do to how it lined with some animation and was pomptly deleted, imagine deranged people with full modeling controls.

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I get that reasoning but DE needs to step up their operator cosmetics game if they are so afraid people are going to lewd their loli/shota avatars.

Other than some prime suits I generally hate all operator suits with a passion. I wish they had some garb that looked more neutral or orokin casual. 

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13 hours ago, BloodKitten said:

the issue is, you going to need the body itself as a base to make a suit around it, and i would imagine therewill be some deranged people making inapropriate outfit submissions.

i do recall a few years back someone pointed at nakak lower section do to how it lined with some animation and was pomptly deleted, imagine deranged people with full modeling controls.

That's a terrible reason not to release files. Just because someone abuses it everyone else has to suffer? If anything, it can't be worse than what the average anime watcher finds acceptable. Pick up your average anime and you'd think pedophilia is perfectly normal.

Btw how old is the operator anyway?

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3 hours ago, RazerXPrime said:

That's a terrible reason not to release files. Just because someone abuses it everyone else has to suffer? If anything, it can't be worse than what the average anime watcher finds acceptable. Pick up your average anime and you'd think pedophilia is perfectly normal.

Btw how old is the operator anyway?

dosent matter, still look like a kid to those mASS media and they would raise a stink over it if someone would, idk, start making questionable stuff on the steam workshop befor steam have a chance to delete it.

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4 minutes ago, BloodKitten said:

dosent matter, still look like a kid to those mASS media and they would raise a stink over it if someone would, idk, start making questionable stuff on the steam workshop befor steam have a chance to delete it.

There's way worse things on steam than a kid in a skimpy outfit. And what if someone releases a swimsuit skin? Would you dislike that?

I highly doubt anyone would be silly enough to create something questionable. I don't even know what kind of thing you have in mind that could be taken as questionable. And even if that happens. Who cares. It's not like it'll be there for long if it violates the rules.

Thing is, let people be creative. Don't prevent creativity for fear of abuse. That's even worse than the abuse itself in my opinion.

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4 minutes ago, RazerXPrime said:

There's way worse things on steam than a kid in a skimpy outfit. And what if someone releases a swimsuit skin? Would you dislike that?

I highly doubt anyone would be silly enough to create something questionable. I don't even know what kind of thing you have in mind that could be taken as questionable. And even if that happens. Who cares. It's not like it'll be there for long if it violates the rules.

Thing is, let people be creative. Don't prevent creativity for fear of abuse. That's even worse than the abuse itself in my opinion.

again, the issue is, its a 3d kid, otherwise, i dont care when its 2d anime.

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22 minutes ago, RazerXPrime said:

So pedophilia is ok when it's 2D, but not when it's 3D? You know, just to measure where you're coming from.

just pointing out the diffrance between the 2, besides, culture is diffrent everywhere, what some countries maybe fine it, others will not, with anime, japan in itself is not too strict, but dare to actually commit acts in real life? then you are going to jail.

also as a remind age of consent is not the same globally but for gaming companies that make games globally as opposed to, anime or VNs that are only made domesticly and never see translation or locolazation, they have to follow the globolized rules.

as example, phantasy star online 2 was altered and censored, removing bath scenes that were voice acted in english as well as making the character creation minimum hight higher then it is in the original because of A, consoles, B, global market as opposed to domestic market, and aperrently some outfits were modified as well to show less skin.

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1 minute ago, BloodKitten said:

just pointing out the diffrance between the 2, besides, culture is diffrent everywhere, what some countries maybe fine it, others will not, with anime, japan in itself is not too strict, but dare to actually commit acts in real life? then you are going to jail.

also as a remind age of consent is not the same globally but for gaming companies that make games globally as opposed to, anime or VNs that are only made domesticly and never see translation or locolazation, they have to follow the globolized rules.

The difference you're pointing out is simply an opinion. To me any form that depicts pedophelia is in fact pedophilia. I don't care that you drew it on a piece of paper. 

I know about age of concent and what country has which laws on it. With so much rape and pedophilia coming from Japan as if it's a form of art I made it a point to educate myself on the matter. Japan made child porn illegal in 2014. 2014! Yes you're reading this correctly. Only a few years ago. And it didn't really change much towards the sexualization of minors. USA gets their panties in a bunch when a voluptuous grown woman shows a little cleavage, but it's fine if Japan shows children in the same capactity. Excellent judgement.

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16 minutes ago, RazerXPrime said:

The difference you're pointing out is simply an opinion. To me any form that depicts pedophelia is in fact pedophilia. I don't care that you drew it on a piece of paper. 

I know about age of concent and what country has which laws on it. With so much rape and pedophilia coming from Japan as if it's a form of art I made it a point to educate myself on the matter. Japan made child porn illegal in 2014. 2014! Yes you're reading this correctly. Only a few years ago. And it didn't really change much towards the sexualization of minors. USA gets their panties in a bunch when a voluptuous grown woman shows a little cleavage, but it's fine if Japan shows children in the same capactity. Excellent judgement.

i have the common sense to seperate reality from fiction atleast, just pointing out since this game is available in the global market, on consoles as well, and sony being noterios for its censoreships that even xbox and switch dont do it, there will be higher regulations as opposed to some anime book.

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2 minutes ago, BloodKitten said:

i have to common sense to seperate reality from fiction atleast, just pointing out since this game is available in the global market, on consoles as well, and sony being noterios for its censoreships that even xbox and switch dont do it, there will be higher regulations as opposed to some anime book.

It has nothing to do with reality vs fiction. It has everything to do with the expression of need or want. In both cases they are the same. Or do you honestly think that a grown person getting aroused by a drawn picture of an 8 year old girl is healthy? This expression of need or want is reality. The fact that it comes from a piece of paper is what people use as an excuse to condone pedophilia. It's high time people start understanding the underlying nature of it and not defend it with the "but it's not real" fallacy. Obviously a child being impacted is an actual offense. But child pornopgraphy in art implies the same act. I wouldn't say life imprisonment as it is in some countries, but prison. Yea, I would definitely go with that, including a forced rehabilitation program. Of course all of those aren't going to help, but shooting everyone who is into child porn of this kind is also... well is it bad? To me, if you think 2D imagery of child pornagraphy is ok then you're not a person. More like... an animal.

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1 minute ago, RazerXPrime said:

It has nothing to do with reality vs fiction. It has everything to do with the expression of need or want. In both cases they are the same. Or do you honestly think that a grown person getting aroused by a drawn picture of an 8 year old girl is healthy? This expression of need or want is reality. The fact that it comes from a piece of paper is what people use as an excuse to condone pedophilia. It's high time people start understanding the underlying nature of it and not defend it with the "but it's not real" fallacy. Obviously a child being impacted is an actual offense. But child pornopgraphy in art implies the same act. I wouldn't say life imprisonment as it is in some countries, but prison. Yea, I would definitely go with that, including a forced rehabilitation program. Of course all of those aren't going to help, but shooting everyone who is into child porn of this kind is also... well is it bad? To me, if you think 2D imagery of child pornagraphy is ok then you're not a person. More like... an animal.

*shrugs* we already have censoreship due to the game being available in some countrise, you cannot say anything about not being stright in region chat as example, and DE cannot explicitly create a non stright character or said regions will want it censored in some form, the global market is very diffrent in terms of what you can, and cannot do.

 

but enough of it, you baited me to topic derailment and i fell for it.

 

mods, please delete the last few comments.

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That's great and all but I didn't read any of that.

TennoGen Operator Suits, don't exist because they just aren't available. I don't know why this became a debate around the ethics of allowing people access to 3D model's of child-like bodies or whatever, because not only does DE would deny sexually explicit content (as they already do), I had already explained why it could have been an issue to implement. Duviri Paradox. If our Operators are gonna grow older, I don't see the Outfits simply transitioning easily 1:1, there's bound to be some changes within the two bodies. Especially with new models and textures to abide to the new body model. I would imagine that might be tricky for DE to already give TennoGen artists access to files that will give them everything for the current way of how Outfits work, because of how many separate parts they use as well as rigging / animations, but then on top of that another set of consideration for when Ops' become adults which adds another layer of work.

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22 hours ago, Scruffel said:

That's great and all but I didn't read any of that.

TennoGen Operator Suits, don't exist because they just aren't available. I don't know why this became a debate around the ethics of allowing people access to 3D model's of child-like bodies or whatever, because not only does DE would deny sexually explicit content (as they already do), I had already explained why it could have been an issue to implement. Duviri Paradox. If our Operators are gonna grow older, I don't see the Outfits simply transitioning easily 1:1, there's bound to be some changes within the two bodies. Especially with new models and textures to abide to the new body model. I would imagine that might be tricky for DE to already give TennoGen artists access to files that will give them everything for the current way of how Outfits work, because of how many separate parts they use as well as rigging / animations, but then on top of that another set of consideration for when Ops' become adults which adds another layer of work.

While that makes sense that's assuming they are actually putting any kind of real work into the Duviri Paradox at all. 

I'm a little skeptical considering the only thing I can bring up on the subject is basically a trailer from 2 years ago. That doesn't give any kind of real explanation on what it is. 

I know we're all excited for the new interesting lore stuff that's been teased over the years.  However, it feels more legit they are concerned over artists lewding the models (rule 34 stuff exists for this game) than there's something in the works they don't want to spoil.

I do hope that one day whatever the reason or obstacle, It gets worked out.  I want to go nuts on my operator fashion and the current choices have me holding off. 

Also thank you for trying to change the subject. Came back to this thread and said yikes.

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