Berzerkules Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 So, I've been enjoying using Epitaph as a utility primer recently. It's pretty much replaced nukor as my utility secondary at this point. Since Epitaph has a guaranteed cold proc on the quick shot radial attack it is the only weapon that can proc both heat and cold in a single shot while also being modded for viral (If I'm wrong lmk, I want more fun toys to play with). It wasn't long before I got the bright idea to test it with Thermal Sunder. If you prime enemies with your Epitaph and then cast cold Thermal Sunder you can freeze enemies solid for the duration of the ability but, you also get the effect of casting cold Thermal Sunder on an enemy with a heat proc so you pull enemies towards you. The end result is you get a pile of enemies frozen to the ground at your feet. I probably got a little more excited than I should have but I'm a huge fan crowd control and finding unique interactions between items in games. I just want to break games in as many ways as I possibly can. Figured this interaction was too cool to not share. Spoiler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UUDDLRLRBA_START Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 3 hours ago, Berzerkules said: I'm a huge fan crowd control Me too. But I find it more fun to kill them all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackAce Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 That's part of Thermal Sunder's mechanic. It procs Blast on enemies already afflicted with the opposite status (Casting Cold Thermal Sunder on enemies afflicted by heat and vice versa): Quote Casting Thermal Sunder of the opposite damage type on enemies already afflicted with Cold or Heat procs, combines the damage type into Blast. Affected enemies first have the initial status effect removed, receive the new status effect, they also receive a Blast proc and deals damage based on the mode being used plus the damage of the canceled status. It freezes enemies already afflicted with cold when using Cold Thermal Sunder: Quote When cast on enemies already affected by Cold proc, they are instantly frozen solid for the full status duration. So anything that can proc Heat or Cold works with Thermal Sunder. I remember playing around with an Ember trying to test if the combo works for stripping enemies armor off with Thermal Sunder Redline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berzerkules Posted May 15, 2021 Author Share Posted May 15, 2021 27 minutes ago, acevezwing said: That's part of Thermal Sunder's mechanic. It procs Blast on enemies already afflicted with the opposite status (Casting Cold Thermal Sunder on enemies afflicted by heat and vice versa): It freezes enemies already afflicted with cold when using Cold Thermal Sunder: Yes, it's how thermal sunder works but afaik, no other weapon can mass proc cold and heat in one shot, so it freezes enemies and pulls them in with one cast. You would have to swap weapons to apply both heat and cold procs or cast multiple times to get the same effect as a single shot and single cast. One cast will pull enemies in because there is heat proc when you cast cold and they will be frozen because there is also a cold proc active. Edit: To do the same thing with just Thermal sunder you would have to hold cast heat and double cast cold and enemies would still not be primed with 10 stacks of viral. To do the same with say a kuva nukor modded for viral/heat you would have to prime with nukor and double cast cold. Or you could apply heat with one weapon swap to apply cold with another weapon then single cast cold. Using the epitaph just does it slightly faster with a single shot and a single cast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReddyDisco Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 time to whip out my thermal sunder limbo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berzerkules Posted May 15, 2021 Author Share Posted May 15, 2021 2 minutes ago, ReddyDisco said: time to whip out my thermal sunder limbo Epitaph has definitely gotten me to go back to some of my thermal sunder builds. One of my favorites right now is Thermal Sunder Ember. She already sets everything on fire so I can mod Epitaph for viral/rad instead of viral/heat. I strip armor and knock every one back with Fireblast then pull them back in and freeze them with cold Thermal Sunder. Perfect fire and ice mage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)robotwars7 Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 DE: "you kids better not be having any fun over there!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berzerkules Posted May 15, 2021 Author Share Posted May 15, 2021 Just now, (PSN)robotwars7 said: DE: "you kids better not be having any fun over there!" No fun over here Space Mom. Just endlessly grinding away for those .02% drop rates. We ain't doin nothin fun I promise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myscho Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 Insert "No fun allowed" meme here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)robotwars7 Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 2 minutes ago, Berzerkules said: No fun over here Space Mom. Just endlessly grinding away for those .02% drop rates. We ain't doin nothin fun I promise. "better not be!, I catch you enjoying any synergy between weapons and powers and I'm Nerfing the sh1t outta the Epitaph!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slayer-. Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 I knew that it's fun with thermal sunder, it is fun when a large group of enemies come hurtling at you to die at your feet, I love the epitaph for it's all round diversity, it can kill SP high level enemies in one shot, it can CC enemies, it can destroy rooms with ease. It's my go too fun gun of the moment. until DE nerf it :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReddyDisco Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 1 hour ago, (PSN)robotwars7 said: DE: "you kids better not be having any fun over there!" no mom we just studying DE: 'Just checking in, i heard laughter" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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