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Zephyr is my new religion

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So I spent a few weeks playing nothing but Zephyr. Now originally my plan was to try out the changes and maybe build her for a specific niche. Since I thought these new changes would not win me over. However, what ended up happening is that I built her using umbral forma for high level content and kept playing her.

Now I understand she may not be top tier and still needs changes. Yet I find her so much fun to play and cannot put her down.  

It gotten to the point where playing any other Warframe feels wired. There are times when playing something else I just wish I was Zephyr or they do not have the same flow as her. So I guess I am a Zephyr main now.

 

But that is just my experince, how do you like the new Zephyr?

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Draegan

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But that is just my experince, how do you like the new Zephyr?

I'm having a blast with her.

Got 2 builds :

- One with target fixation + fire blast for survival/exter/Anything that don't involve defending something. It scale infinitly.

- One with max Range/Duration + dispensary to defend objectives with her 3, it's pretty solid.

She is a good allrounder now.

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3 minutes ago, Draegan said:

Got 2 builds :

- One with target fixation + fire blast for survival/exter/Anything that don't involve defending something. It scale infinitly.

- One with max Range/Duration + dispensary to defend objectives with her 3, it's pretty solid.

Nice, those look great. I am using jet stream in mine to pair with projectile weapons as well as extra speed. I am also using gas on my primary weapons.

 

3 minutes ago, Draegan said:

She is a good allrounder now.

Another reason why I love her, I can take her almost anywhere now.

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Turbulence is still unreliable so she didn't change that much for me. Flamethrowers spiders and electric ospreys smack her in one hit. Because De doesn't seem to care.

But anyway she can be good. Steel path Jugulus' melts away with Tornado which is nice. And for Defense and mobile defense she's god. Well almost. Since Turbulence can't be refreshed you will get shot probably.

She's not gonna replace Hildryn or Lavos for me but at least I will use her every now and then.

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Welcome to the church, I am the Prophet of Turbulence.

My friend, I'm proud to see a new adherent and I hope you'll find happiness. Do not neglect the other frames, they have their uses, but let us revel in the new and improved Air Caster Supreme.

Try out the other players' builds, and if you can't decide on one, just go for an all-rounder with her: https://overframe.gg/build/144020/

There's a lot of possibilities out there ^^

2 hours ago, (XBOX)TyeGoo said:

Modding for it ruins all other abilities

Oh really?

How so?

I've found that even just 35 seconds of Duration is more than enough for general play, as you've got a quick CC cast on 2 and a heavy CC cast on 4. Check out the all-rounder build I linked above here, I use that for mucking around on Steel Path survival like this:

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And that's without Helminth subsumes.

That's just using the build I linked.

Other people on this thread have some way more specialised options.

I mean... Duration, Range, a bit of Efficiency, I don't see how any of these 'ruin' Zephyr's other abilities, and if you're running none of the Augments then you can ditch Strength with Overextended and not even care.

The only one part of Zephyr's kit that players have consistently disliked with Duration is Tailwind's dash. But since we've now got Hover as a way to stop in mid-air after casting Tailwind... I don't see that as much of an issue even with those high Duration builds.

Still.

I'll admit that Turbulence isn't a perfect damage mitigation tool. What I will say is that, when you play Zephyr like Zephyr, instead of like you would with other frames, it does all come together quite well.

Heck, I even take her to certain Infested missions too ^^

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I put Vial Rush in the place of Airburst so I could move faster while in the air.

Its also a bonus that I drop the vials on the way.

Yes. This is a "f*cking pigeon sh*tting all over the place!" joke bonus.

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21 minutes ago, (XBOX)TyeGoo said:

Pouring 300% duration into her makes her even less fun

Pouring 300% duration into Zephyr also makes no sense.

Honestly, as a defensive ability being a base of 20 seconds is really not that low. And for what you get, which is the total deletion of ranged hits (barring AoE, which you mitigate via Range and being in the Air), that's not exactly an under-powered ability.

It's the reason that DE haven't changed it over all of the reworks, because as a function, 'bullet delete' is incredible. As long as you have the rest of the kit necessary to ensure you don't die to 'explosions', and 'melee'.

I have to ask, do you not play Loki or Ash simply because their Invisibility only lasts 20 seconds or so?

Or do you prefer a frame like Ivara for that, even though Ivara has movement penalties and cannot use 'loud' weapons in order to preserve her invisibility?

Do you take the penalties just for the convenience of not having to press a button more than once a minute?

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Zephyr rework is one of the best , right up there with Nezha and Vauban (or at least very close to them),

She does a lot of things well by default and she can do more if you tweak her right.

I too was originally not too enthused as the changes felt minor , but they come together very well,

I am not going to "main" her (that remains Equinox despite her many flaws) but i also do not see her staying at the bottom of the pile (i will not name who that is).

She can pretty much cover up most of the scenarios for Damage dealing (weapon specialization), CC and Damage avoidance with very minor support potential.

And use some niche mods , helminth and augments and you can have even better combinations (some gravity mods let me stay in the air for nearly 30 seconds without using hover)

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I was prepared to ditch warframe completely if DE messed up my bird, I play other frames but Zephyr is the only reason i kept playing through the constant content droughts and bs. The changes are great, being able to hover properly and having a good reward for doing so(cc bonus) was a long needed addition and soothed my hurt feelings after chroma getting an extra jump. The tornado changes are also great, theyre finally reliable enough so you dont have to babysit them to stop them from going off of the map. Airburst is still the weakest skill but the change to its pull easily made it 100% more useful than what it had before. The only bad part of the rework was it being paired with that abortion of a deluxe skin.

all I need now is more tennogen to come out so i have an excuse to build a 6th zephyr.

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7 hours ago, Birdframe_Prime said:

Try out the other players' builds, and if you can't decide on one, just go for an all-rounder with her: https://overframe.gg/build/144020/

Ty, funny enough my build is very similar to that one with some small tweaks.

 

7 hours ago, Kaotyke said:

Yes. This is a "f*cking pigeon sh*tting all over the place!" joke bonus.

I mean isn't that the same with Lavos but as a snake?

 

3 hours ago, LordPantaloonsthe3rd said:

The only bad part of the rework was it being paired with that abortion of a deluxe skin.

Personally I was not a big fan of the deluxe skin because of the colors, but I love the Hagoromo tennogen skin instead. 

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16 hours ago, WH1735S0W said:

Personally I was not a big fan of the deluxe skin because of the colors, but I love the Hagoromo tennogen skin instead. 

Hagoromo was the first one I bought and is my favorite, the only ones I dont have is the Blade of the Lotus skin and Migisi and Monsoon helmets. I wasnt overly impressed by the BotL skin and the helmets are bad value imo since they cost almost as much as a full skin while only having a helmet, i cant bring myself to buy them at their current price.

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19 hours ago, WH1735S0W said:

I mean isn't that the same with Lavos but as a snake?

Not exactly, we all know pigeons have crosshairs in their butts so they can hit us ground dwellers for maximum damage. If they cant, they make drops all over the place.

Snakes cant do that.

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