How Many Tenno Weapons are Left to Prime?

[SneakyErvin]

6 hours ago, AlphaPHENIX said:

it does nothing to disprove that weapons of other factions can have a Prime.

Given that the other factions didnt appear as actual militant factions until after the orokin fall, it makes it quite impossible to have prime versions of their own designed weapons. There is surely a prime somewhere that the weapons are based on, but not a prime version of the actual weapon. There is for instance no Hind Prime, the Hind however may have been inspired by a Braton, a Burston or one of their primes, or maybe some other prime weapon of tenno or orokin origin.

 

[Birdframe_Prime]

Oh, forgot to actually address the OP's question: How many Tenno weapons are left to Prime.

There's quite a lot.

There are currently 10 Primary weapons, not counting the Zenith; 15 Secondary weapons, not counting the Azima; and 21 Melee weapons, not counting the Sigma & Octantis, Zenistar and Vitrica.

So even at a low estimate, there's another 10 Prime Access releases, which is 2 and a half years worth, of Primaries (which they don't always release, so make that every second release for double the time at 5 years) that can be released, not counting any they release in the mean time, like the new bubble gun for Yareli.

There's enough Melee for them to do a Prime melee every single release for more than 5 years, even before they release more.

And that's not even including the idea that all of the recent frames were released with signature Tenno weapons that can be Primed for their release.

The only one that's in any real debate right now is Nidus, who was released with Infested weapons. While Nidus will definitely have his Prime (both from in-game and out-of-game rules), the big debate is whether DE will Prime any of those Infested weapons, or give him the equivalent of them in Tenno form, or even just pick from the 'miscellaneous' pile of un-primed gear that's not related to another frame already.

[Joezone619]

many, i'm still waiting for attica prime and boltace prime, they have a boltor pime, and akbolto prime, why not boltace?

[Aratir]

On 2021-06-16 at 4:10 PM, Sloan441 said:

People (That Guy) keep saying this, but it's demonstrably not so. You might not like some of the twists and turns the lore takes, but keep in mind DE likes presenting everything from the imperfect observer viewpoint. Why they do this is up for debate, but this is what they've always done and will presumably continue to do. 

Prime weapons were those made during the height of the empire for use with the warframes. Tenno weapons are stripped down wartime production variants. Primes are the originals. 

Grineer and corpus weapons all are newer weapons than prime weapons. These polities didn't exist during the Great War, though they had predecessors. Something did exist for the dax and original grineer troops--we've seen it in the CGI trailer--but they weren't weapons meant for warframes. Now there we may see something modern grineer weapons were based on, but they were cannon fodder in a quite literal sense so it's doubtful too much effort was expended on them. Ballas himself makes this point in the Banshee Prime trailer.

There will have been some technology drift since the Great War, but it'll be mostly confined to the corpus--and that being reinventing energy weapons. What we've seen so far, though, indicates stagnation--at least until the corpus started to research sentient technology. Here we'll see new stuff. 

 

 

Some other people (white knights) also say that DE is doing good on the lore changes and everyone who criticise it is wrong because DE is great.....

[Sloan441]

48 minutes ago, Aratir said:

Some other people (white knights) also say that DE is doing good on the lore changes and everyone who criticise it is wrong because DE is great.....

You lose credibility at "white knights." It's nonsense.

The imperfect observer viewpoint is a perfectly valid method of storytelling. It's used for a variety of reasons, not least of which is it does allow you wriggle room when developing your narrative. 

You might not like it or understand it, but that's on you, not the writer. 

[Aratir]

On 2021-06-16 at 4:10 PM, Sloan441 said:

but keep in mind DE likes presenting everything from the imperfect observer viewpoint

Why are you repeating this everytime? As you can clearly see ingame that they are not doing this. We live through most quest in the past or in the present.  Only umbras visions of his remake can be false but i dont think he remembers his most painfull memories wrongly....

[Sloan441]

1 hour ago, Aratir said:

Why are you repeating this everytime? 

Because it's true. 

You do read fiction, yes? If not, then this is all probably confusing. It's meant to be. That's the point of using this method of writing--to make the reader think and to allow the author a lot of leeway on how to present the narrative. It's mostly a device to develop suspense, but also allows for easy narrative transitions just by bringing in a new viewpoint. 

An example is the Mag Prime codex entry. This is presented from the viewpoint of an Orokin soldier. This guy is just a grunt and has no clue what's going on other than he's about the hit the space equivalent of a hostile beachhead. He's just telling us what he sees, what he thinks about it, and what happens to him. You, as the reader, have to make sense of it. When it came out it foreshadowed a number of things that we saw in-game later. The details of what we actually got were somewhat different from the entry, but this can be blamed on the Orokin observer because he really didn't know much about what he was seeing--which is the point of using this plot device.