Zahnny Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 It's no secret that the Tenno who are portrayed as the good guys are...kinda gray in their methods. The question came to my mind again just recently how killing Crown carriers is kinda the same thing as killing a defenceless religious priest who is trying to flee. If we were to make a comprehensive list, by counting every single weapon that violates these things, along with the methods Tenno employ, and every observable breach in their history, what would that number total to? Better yet, what would the price of compensation look like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uhkretor Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 ... Again...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Lollybomb Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 Feel free to start by listing off all the nations that still exist in the Warframe universe. I'll wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)C11H22O11 Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 1 minute ago, (PSN)Lollybomb said: Feel free to start by listing off all the nations that still exist in the Warframe universe. I'll wait. Laws: Infested- consume Corpus- Money Grineer- Obey Tenno- Do whatever Sentients- Kill anything Orokin related for no reason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awazx Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 We are not good. They try to make us believe that we are some kind of "hero", but in reality we are just mercenaries selling to the highest bidder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Lollybomb Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 1 minute ago, (XBOX)C11H22O11 said: Laws: Infested- consume Corpus- Money Grineer- Obey Tenno- Do whatever Sentients- Kill anything Orokin related for no reason I wouldn't consider them nations, but they are as close as we might get to them. Of course since everything we do is something they do as well, and they consider these things to be permitted, it's hard to imagine that we violate any real laws. Certainly none regarding fighting wars and such. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zahnny Posted June 23, 2021 Author Share Posted June 23, 2021 18 minutes ago, Uhkretor said: ... Again...? I wasn't aware one was already made. Can you provide me a link or etc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SneakyErvin Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 I'd say all of them very likely. But then again, several of them are straight up silly imo. Like the ones that state you can kill other people with these weapons, but not with those. I mean... who the #*!% cares what weapon you kill an enemy with, the end result is that he is freakin dead and you've just "murdered" someone for thinking differently or occupying a different patch of dirt on the other side of an invisible line. I'm all inline with the laws and regulations that are there to protect civilians. But all those that surround the killing of enemies just crack me up. "You're not allowed to shoot that man with a shotgun since it may lead to suffering! Here, take a grenade instead!" Yes cos obviously a grenade will not maim someone and cause suffering, or result in a dud that some kid may find and think is a toy. Naaaa it is perfectly safe and fine! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XaeVS Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 If Ballas and company saw a list of war crimes while designing warframes they would view it as inspiration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zahnny Posted June 23, 2021 Author Share Posted June 23, 2021 7 minutes ago, XaeVS said: If Ballas and company saw a list of war crimes while designing warframes they would view it as inspiration. Wait, you mean the Geneva Convention wasn't suggestions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanaukas Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 17 minutes ago, Zahnny said: I wasn't aware one was already made. Can you provide me a link or etc? Not the same but close, draw some ideas from there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)ErydisTheLucario Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 28 minutes ago, Awazx said: We are not good. They try to make us believe that we are some kind of "hero", but in reality we are just mercenaries selling to the highest bidder. I wouldn't even say that personally. It literally doesn't take much for the Tenno to just jump in and help people. Not saying they're good, I'm just saying they dont feel like mercs imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FulfillMyWill Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 1 час назад, Zahnny сказал: Better yet, what would the price of compensation look like? 0. Because nobody will be able to make tenno pay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarriaga Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 1 hour ago, Zahnny said: It's no secret that the Tenno who are portrayed as the good guys are...kinda gray in their methods. The question came to my mind again just recently how killing Crown carriers is kinda the same thing as killing a defenceless religious priest who is trying to flee. If we were to make a comprehensive list, by counting every single weapon that violates these things, along with the methods Tenno employ, and every observable breach in their history, what would that number total to? Better yet, what would the price of compensation look like? I'd be willing to participate if the Geneva Convention guidelines still existed in the WF universe, but I doubt this. Even concepts such as twin sisters and autism have been lost to time in the WF universe, thus I have a hard time believing the Orokin were bound to Earth rules when they conquered Earth and the rest of the Sol system. Laws are created by those who are in control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awazx Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 hace 1 hora, (PSN)ErydisTheLucario dijo: It literally doesn't take much for the Tenno to just jump in and help people. Help who? To the Corpus in exchange for fieldron? To the Grinners in exchange for a weapon? We ruthlessly exterminate millions of Corpus and Grinners for what and why? The solar system is at war with each other, but who are we trying to free from their tyranny? The Tenno have NO nobility, no honor. We are Ninja, not Samurais. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butterfly85 Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 Let's list the ones the Tenno havent broken.... ... ... ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leqesai Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 2 hours ago, Zahnny said: It's no secret that the Tenno who are portrayed as the good guys are...kinda gray in their methods. The question came to my mind again just recently how killing Crown carriers is kinda the same thing as killing a defenceless religious priest who is trying to flee. If we were to make a comprehensive list, by counting every single weapon that violates these things, along with the methods Tenno employ, and every observable breach in their history, what would that number total to? Better yet, what would the price of compensation look like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)RuTweN Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 1 hour ago, Jarriaga said: Even concepts such as twin sisters and autism have been lost to time in the WF universe Until you join radiation sortie with an excalibur player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aldain Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 I'm sure that any of them that the Tenno have done, the Grineer and Corpus have done even moreso. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaggelos Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 3 hours ago, Uhkretor said: ... Again...? Why not? Its a fun discussion :-D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Jason_V_Jade Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 Grineer I don't see as a war crime to wipe out. They are slavers, mass killers of civilians, when we first started the game one of the missions we was informed that they was heading to a colony to wipe it out, they also brought back the infested, both are war crimes. The corpus, they harvest human body parts or whole bodies while keeping their brains alive, they also force children into servitude because of a debt many generations ago. It isn't a war crime to kill enemy combinations. It is a crime to attack non-coms Is the tenno a hero? No, but nether sre they the villain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zahnny Posted June 23, 2021 Author Share Posted June 23, 2021 1 hour ago, (PSN)RuTweN said: Until you join radiation sortie with an excalibur player Not that I want to continue this topic and fear offending anyone, and I am autistic myself so I'd only be insulting myself if I did. But I can relate with that, but with either Mesa or Ash's ults. I only ever play Rad sorties solo or with a Safeguard Nezha build. At least then, if they're doing it on purpose it becomes more obvious, since they have to remove the 12k safeguard shield first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soy77 Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 Every once in a while, warframe players got amazed at the amount of kills they just did. So they hop on to this forum to talk about how illegal saryn is when measured with our irl laws. I guess it's a phase that everyone had to go though. Carry on, chaps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zahnny Posted June 23, 2021 Author Share Posted June 23, 2021 4 minutes ago, Soy77 said: Every once in a while, warframe players got amazed at the amount of kills they just did. So they hop on to this forum to talk about how illegal saryn is when measured with our irl laws. I guess it's a phase that everyone had to go though. Carry on, chaps. [Laughs in Saryn only being used for Mastery Foddor] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvid Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 1 hour ago, Awazx said: Help who? To the Corpus in exchange for fieldron? To the Grinners in exchange for a weapon? We ruthlessly exterminate millions of Corpus and Grinners for what and why? The solar system is at war with each other, but who are we trying to free from their tyranny? The Tenno have NO nobility, no honor. We are Ninja, not Samurais. Among several others, we have assisted the Solaris without expectation of reward in-universe. In fact, most questlines involving civilian factions have the Tenno offer their assistance without payment even being mentioned. I mean, I can understand why players would say that there's no nobility in the Tenno, it only requires ignoring all of the instances that demonstrate said nobility after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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