Oberick Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 Everything in game is Human/Orokin or their creations. How cool would it be to have dudes like this on a planet or living in the void somewhere? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dauggie Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 aren't infested.. aliens? anything that's not a part of our ecosystem is called alien lifeform anyway. so it's really upto you what you consider real alien. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)max141064 Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 4 minutes ago, Dauggie said: aren't infested.. aliens? The infestation is a creation of the Orokin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)max141064 Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Oberick said: Everything in game is Human/Orokin or their creations. How cool would it be to have dudes like this on a planet or living in the void somewhere? Yes but at the same time...no. i mean, it would be cool to add at least another "race" of enemies but if there is going to be one, it's going to take AT THE BARE MINIMUM 5 years. We still need to finish up the whole thing with Ballas, Natha and actualy understand what WE really are. plus...i think we're going to get a Stalker centered quest and theeeen, only then we should be free to put new stuff on the table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)robotwars7 Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 3 hours ago, Oberick said: How cool would it be to have dudes like this on a planet or living in the void somewhere? ignoring that it's an Excalibur.. you are actually kinda on the mark with the "living in the Void" part, because of Planes of Duviri: we really will be going to a place that is totally alien: the Void may be in our Origin System, but we know next to nothing about it, and once we get on the Planes it will be a totally different world to the ones we've been to. we know there are strange Dax-zombie people who ride horses there, and while they might have also been made by the Orokin -even if by accident somehow - they would still be a new faction, more or less. sadly we're not really gonna know more until Duviri comes out... probably not this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
16Bitman Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 We have the man in the wall, which is some strange creature from the void, but he chooses to look like whoever he is speaking to, so design wise he doesn't look like an alien. Then there are these strange guys coming with Duviri Paradox, they live in the void and not much else is known about them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MqToasty Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 Honestly? No. Totally unrelated aliens do not really fit Warframe. A central theme of Warframe is (human) hubris, and everything "alien" we've discovered so far turned out to be a human descendent or creation. Even The Man in the Wall, I suspect, will be revealed to be borne of the collective human subconscious or some such (Slaanesh, anyone?). So why toss in an unrelated foreign threat with which to distract ourselves for our biggest threat: ourselves? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redfeather75 Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 3 hours ago, 16Bitman said: We have the man in the wall, which is some strange creature from the void, but he chooses to look like whoever he is speaking to, so design wise he doesn't look like an alien. Then there are these strange guys coming with Duviri Paradox, they live in the void and not much else is known about them. I really love the look of stuff like that. Reminds me of the 80s fantasy comics and movies I grew up on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvid Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 5 hours ago, (PSN)max141064 said: The infestation is a creation of the Orokin. Technically we don't know if they created it, or merely harnessed and modified an already existent infection. Either way its origins are still likely local to... well, Origin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teridax68 Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 The Void is a separate dimension that is strongly hinted to be sentient, or have sentient entities (i.e. the Man in the Wall). Given that this dimension was discovered, rather than created by the Orokin, it is thus a truly alien entity in the Warframe universe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eyn_Sof Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 I don't remember the exact details but infestation wasn't a pure orokin creation, I think they modified something already existing(because if I recall a lot of infestation strains we have right now are based on the old war when orokin decided it was a good idea to make a zombie wall against sentients) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venus-Venera Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 vor 9 Stunden schrieb Oberick: Everything in game is Human/Orokin or their creations. How cool would it be to have dudes like this on a planet or living in the void somewhere? i don't need aliens. i have my magnifying glass. bugs are so ugly and disgusting that every horror movie becomes a fairy tale for the children. I've also seen films of beetles killing each other. omg i'm just saying. You can hardly fall asleep afterwards! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Yggranya Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 When we consider the fact that when the mystery of cephalons/operators were revealed and it turned out they were just your average "humans", i don't think DE is willing or able to do anything exceeding expectations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oberick Posted June 28, 2021 Author Share Posted June 28, 2021 6 hours ago, MqToasty said: Honestly? No. Totally unrelated aliens do not really fit Warframe. A central theme of Warframe is (human) hubris, and everything "alien" we've discovered so far turned out to be a human descendent or creation. Even The Man in the Wall, I suspect, will be revealed to be borne of the collective human subconscious or some such (Slaanesh, anyone?). So why toss in an unrelated foreign threat with which to distract ourselves for our biggest threat: ourselves? They wouldn't need to be enemies. They could be like the Ostrons/Solaris/Entrati of a new area and sell us alien weapons/companions/etc. And yes the story is about human hubris but its also about working together with people/beings that are different than you. I agree about the Man in the Wall ending up being related to Orokin/humans too. Not sure they will end up being a powerful god like being like in Warhammer or Starcraft. I'm thinking like maybe during the radiation wars we created the void and the man in the wall was a victim/ an amalgamation of the victims of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorClipClop Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 10 minutes ago, Oberick said: -snip- With this in mind, they could add aliens, but to form an argument for it, why should they? If we look at the themes and story of Warframe, what would the new alien NPCs add to the game beyond the players going, "wow, look at that alien"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Lugia Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 Ain't there already some aliens? But I think we have to wait a bit longer till we get an answer if stuff like the "Void Dragon" and "Man-in-the-Wall" are aliens/outer-dimentional entities, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arnul. Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 Like mass effect or star wars type aliens? Those aliens are probably somewhere far far away on a distant galaxy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizzarugi Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 Why would the aliens come visit? What would they offer that we can't explore with the Void and The Indifference which haunts you? As far as everything goes, this game's universe is set in damage control from hundreds of years of Orokin decadence spiraling out of control. Everything we're dealing with are associated with symptoms of Orokin interference in one form or another. Corpus are a merchant faction that started to spite Orokin greed (ironic what it's become), Grineer used to be a caste of slave-like workers who rebelled during the fall of the Orokin, the Infestation are organic monstrosities created by the Orokin for war, the Void is a result of Orokin research for travel (as evidenced by the Zariman Ten Zero incident), the Sentient are a Corpus-made-but-Orokin-authorized machine creation intended to terraform the Tau system for human occupation which later rebelled and returned to destroy them, and the Tenno are a creation out of desperation to combat the Sentients which were manipulated to destroy the Orokin by the Sentient as a form of mutually-assured destruction. There isn't much of a reason to include aliens when everything appears centered on the Orokin and their extensive list of misdeeds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NocheLuz Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 Aren't humans... Alien?? You know... when in the galaxy with any other species... Humans also counts as aliens, right?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trst Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 Only way I could see "aliens" working out is if they came from outside our home system. But Tau would be out of the question as the Sentients have been there terraforming it for their own uses so anything that was alive there should be long gone. And since the Sentients were needed to make another system habitable in the first place it seems unlikely for us to ever have an opportunity or reason to bring up a third system. That is unless Duviri ends up doing some wild Void shenanigans. But even then I'd suspect whatever we find there won't be too far removed from what we've seen so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beol Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 Well, all the monsters being our own fault is kind of the point of it all, and much of the charm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mysty Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 hmm Samurai Aliens ? should work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oberick Posted June 29, 2021 Author Share Posted June 29, 2021 On 2021-06-28 at 1:11 PM, SenorClipClop said: With this in mind, they could add aliens, but to form an argument for it, why should they? If we look at the themes and story of Warframe, what would the new alien NPCs add to the game beyond the players going, "wow, look at that alien"? Because just like every other faction they can add a unique look, style, and story? Like what if the reason the Sentients were worried about the Orokin trashing Tau like they did Earth was because there was alien life already there? Or what if they live in the void and the Man in the Wall is nothing to them helping us deal with it/him? It's not like any humans/orokin/sentient/tenno/etc could help us. The one guy who dealt with him all this time is gone now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MqToasty Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 On 2021-06-29 at 1:56 AM, Oberick said: They wouldn't need to be enemies. They could be like the Ostrons/Solaris/Entrati of a new area and sell us alien weapons/companions/etc. And yes the story is about human hubris but its also about working together with people/beings that are different than you. Okay, then which enemy faction would be the counterpart/oppressor of these peaceful residents of the new open landscape? We are protecting the Ostrons from the Grineer, the Solaris from the Corpus and the Entrati from the Infested. Who will be the antagonist of this new alien-inhabited landscape? And given how "alien" the Orokin-created Sentients turned out to be, I really do not think it would be believable for an unrelated species of aliens to also happen to evolve a head, a torso, two arms and two legs. Or to have anything that resembled a village and did human things like bartering, fishing, conservation and mining... While none of this is impossible to retcon, it's just such a thematic shift that, IMHO, would weaken the cohesiveness of the story and lore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TARINunit9 Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 Probably never, because this: On 2021-06-28 at 12:36 AM, Oberick said: Everything in game is Human/Orokin or their creations is a central theme of the lore. EVERYTHING is Orokin. All civilizations before them, gone. All history before them, gone. They are the new history. Wally is the only thing that doesn't 100% originate with the Orokin, and he's still human since he's made of human emotions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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