(PSN)JustJoshinEnt Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 7 hours ago, DealerOfAbsolutes said: It's 2021 and we still mod our weapons against armor scaling as if it was still 2013. In Damage 1.0, there was Armor Piercing and Serrated Blade meta. In Damage 2.0, there was Corrosive and Viral/Slash meta. Not all enemies have armor anymore so Gas is pretty good. Today, Viral/Slash is even more meta. Corrosive capped and Gas gutted. Corrosive was capped at 80% strip, so it breaks even with a full strip against Ferrite armor at 4500 armor and gets worse as armor levels get higher. ~4500 armor is what a level 74 Heavy Gunner sports which is roughly where the gentler S-curve scaling kicks in. In theory, things should balance out, but Steel Path dropped with multiplied armor values. Viral got buffed to the point where it's superior to Corrosive's armor strip up to Sortie levels alone. Viral/Slash makes Corrosive a joke. The buff to Viral is supposed to be balanced by the removal of 4xIPS priority making Slash harder to proc, but Hunter Munitions and Forced Slash procs from stances are a thing. There may be promise with Impact as DE fiddles around with Parazon Finisher thresholds. At this rate, Puncture, the physical type "best" against armor as the in-game tool tip indicates is going to be the worst physical type against armor. I dunno, DE could buff Puncture into a weaker, but niche Viral that increases enemy weakness to all damage types by 15% on first proc to 24% on last. Cool synergy with Corrosive and Radiation's +75% armor class modifiers by raising them up to +99% Okay, but... what does this have to do with THIS update's proposed changes? When we get to an Elemental update, that's valid to discuss... but it has nothing to do with the current topic. :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Rez090 Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 12 hours ago, (PSN)Madurai-Prime said: Hildryn and Nekros can stand there while Mag and Excal handle the group. Hildryn can go afk while stripping armor or ccing and nekros obviously is desecrate. I solo SP Mot with Excal and we all know how OP Mag is lol. Ember, Saryn, Hydroid, Lavos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Madurai-Prime Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 1 hour ago, (XBOX)Rez090 said: Ember, Saryn, Hydroid, Lavos Lavos and saryn can nuke/weaken enemies, with ember cleaning up the rest. Hydroid can uh.....melee I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Rez090 Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 3 minutes ago, (PSN)Madurai-Prime said: Lavos and saryn can nuke/weaken enemies, with ember cleaning up the rest. Hydroid can uh.....melee I guess. Volt, Gauss, Khora, Rhino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Madurai-Prime Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 38 minutes ago, (XBOX)Rez090 said: Volt, Gauss, Khora, Rhino Rhino can buff all 3 and stand there while they use guns. If khora uses ensnare only and not the dome, everyone can sit in one spot and concentrate fire at the ensnared group lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Rez090 Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 4 minutes ago, (PSN)Madurai-Prime said: Rhino can buff all 3 and stand there while they use guns. If khora uses ensnare only and not the dome, everyone can sit in one spot and concentrate fire at the ensnared group lol. Thought you would say Volt and Gauss would have a speedster contest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)YoungGunn82 Posted July 3, 2021 Author Share Posted July 3, 2021 On 2021-07-01 at 1:35 AM, Xyngrr said: The changes they are presenting so far won't make us warriors of blade and gun, they'll make us warriors of gun-until-it-doesn't-retrigger-buff-reliably and then blade-forever-more. They do not bring the synergy and fluid exchange between melee and weaponfire that has been a playstyle goal at DE for a while now, but instead encourage homogenous play in either until one fails and the meta has to take over for the imbalance. Exactly my point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Madurai-Prime Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 22 minutes ago, (XBOX)Rez090 said: Thought you would say Volt and Gauss would have a speedster contest. I was thinking more an assault rifle test: they both have buffed reload and holster speed. Great for bullet hose clearing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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