Galuf Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 Edit because people speak with things they don't interact with it seems 1) You can choose wich frame gets the buff in 4 days if you have almost all the frames to put buff on(it's 10 buffs to place so 4 resets total if you do 3 3 3 1 but it can also be 2 2 3 3) 2) It's 7 week duration and 3 new options every 24h 3) yesterday got 100% powerstrengh + 1K hp, a buff with 200% melee crit chance and something else that was nice(don't recall) and another with 75% efficiency and primary multishot. Don't tell me it's weak because it is not weak at all. It's always more than 2 stapple mods worth of stuff Post in the title. I got back in the game to test the new features and after installing the new Segment I have been baffled by the buffs. The fact that it can be spread to other frames and the numbers make me wonder a lot. This is some intense power creep there, the most we had since a very long time actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miser_able Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 Not all of them are good. Like I got a 5 jump one for vauban. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Madurai-Prime Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 Warframes "thing" is being OP. I'm ok with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redfeather75 Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 It is worth getting? I am not eager to farm standing anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Augustus- Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 The RNG nature means it's going to be meh 99 times out of 100: it won't be the frame you want, or the buff you want, or whatever. That 1 time, yeah, it's going to be 200% crit chance and 75% efficiency on Saryn or whatever and you'll be able to spend 7 days straight in the same SP survival mission for the lulz if that's what you want to do. Not exactly gamechanging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobWasHere Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 6 minutes ago, Redfeather75 said: It is worth getting? I am not eager to farm standing anymore. Well, depends on your luck. I got 200% Melee crit chance and 100% Max Energy on Wukong week long buff. Segment is 30k standing and needs rank 5 though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trst Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 Yes and no. Since it's entirely random which frames you get (choosing a frame every ten is pretty irrelevant) and what buffs they're given on top of that you can get invigorations for frames, builds, and/or playstyles you don't use. While when you do get strong buffs like power strength plus weapon damage on a damage buffing frame it is technically overpowered. It's sort of like hoping you've rolled a god riven every week, it might be overpowered but there is no guarantee and it's still temporary. Ultimately I'm left wondering why we needed this system in the first place when it really just sits within two extremes. If it was to try and improve frame diversity it'll fail due to the temporary nature of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesseract7777 Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 53 minutes ago, trst said: Yes and no. Since it's entirely random which frames you get (choosing a frame every ten is pretty irrelevant) and what buffs they're given on top of that you can get invigorations for frames, builds, and/or playstyles you don't use. While when you do get strong buffs like power strength plus weapon damage on a damage buffing frame it is technically overpowered. It's sort of like hoping you've rolled a god riven every week, it might be overpowered but there is no guarantee and it's still temporary. Ultimately I'm left wondering why we needed this system in the first place when it really just sits within two extremes. If it was to try and improve frame diversity it'll fail due to the temporary nature of it. I feel like it will end up a lot like arby buffs. We have so much overkill unless it's a buff for something they use a lot, most people still use whatever they feel like in an arby and not the buffed item. Past experience then suggests similar psychology will play out here. So basically it will mostly just be a bit of power creep once in a while for stuff we already use and ignored the rest of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonGheddo Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 After 10 invigorations , u can use what warframe you want, so yes.. it's worth it and it's op Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hypernaut1 Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 My only concern is playing public matches with a bunch of OP players all the time. Probably won't even notice though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)YoungGunn82 Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 17 minutes ago, DonGheddo said: After 10 invigorations , u can use what warframe you want, so yes.. it's worth it and it's op And basically the first 10 are random “Warframe Rivens” and then I get to pick the “Warframe riven” I want. question is why? What’s it for? Why is this a feature? It’s completely unnecessary. And yet more wasted dev time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venus-Venera Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 vor 3 Stunden schrieb Redfeather75: It is worth getting? I am not eager to farm standing anymore. at least for helmith levels. even if new skills are very bad according to the wiki. especially lvl 15 - the thing flies 200 meters and has 20 sec cd. if you are too close to the object nothing happens. but maybe they'll fix new skills at some point ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TARINunit9 Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 3 hours ago, Redfeather75 said: It is worth getting? I am not eager to farm standing anymore. Let me put it this way: I was offered a Mirage buff of +1,000 armor and 200% pistol crit chance. And it honestly did not effect her overall playstyle at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)robotwars7 Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 it's kinda ridiculous. sure, people can argue that they're optional and random and all, but who is genuinely going to say no to more power? not many people. myself and a lot of others voiced our disagreement in the relevant thread, but it seemed to fall on deaf ears. Invigorations are basically warframe Rivens that disappear after a week; it's not like most warframes need more power anyway, and the ones that actually benefit most form Invigorations are frames that need a rework anyway. adding buffs onto mechanically unsound abilities doesn't make them more fun to use. they're not something I ever asked for, and I'd rather have seen that dev time spent on proper reworks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monolake Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 They are trying to make unpopular frames more played - the buffs are weighted towards those frames. I dont even think it matters much for endgame players, we are already too op to need more and the enemies that matter are cheat to ignore your damage/abilities anyway. The game been nothing but constant buffest powercreep so no one cares or notices anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SneakyErvin Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 Not worth it imo, I may make use of it on 3 frames per week simply to get the helminth experience from it, nothing else really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanaukas Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 I see this system as a way to open up my mod space for a week to test funny setups depending on the RNG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krankbert Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 vor 10 Minuten schrieb Monolake: They are trying to make unpopular frames more played - the buffs are weighted towards those frames. Source? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanaukas Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 12 minutes ago, Krankbert said: Source? some datamined information on reddit, kinda hard to search (and probably this comment will be deleted for it) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galuf Posted July 11, 2021 Author Share Posted July 11, 2021 Il y a 10 heures, Redfeather75 a dit : It is worth getting? I am not eager to farm standing anymore. 30K standing is not much and you can farm endo at the same time. I hate the zone but had the tokens. Il y a 4 heures, (PSN)robotwars7 a dit : it's kinda ridiculous. sure, people can argue that they're optional and random and all, but who is genuinely going to say no to more power? not many people. myself and a lot of others voiced our disagreement in the relevant thread, but it seemed to fall on deaf ears. Invigorations are basically warframe Rivens that disappear after a week; it's not like most warframes need more power anyway, and the ones that actually benefit most form Invigorations are frames that need a rework anyway. adding buffs onto mechanically unsound abilities doesn't make them more fun to use. they're not something I ever asked for, and I'd rather have seen that dev time spent on proper reworks. The are weapon buffs as well mixed in that are pretty massive, it's a mix of many thing, but it certainly is a cluster#*!% powerlevel wise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwlOfJune Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 4 hours ago, Monolake said: They are trying to make unpopular frames more played - the buffs are weighted towards those frames. I dont even think it matters much for endgame players, we are already too op to need more and the enemies that matter are cheat to ignore your damage/abilities anyway. The game been nothing but constant buffest powercreep so no one cares or notices anymore. Even still, most of time less used Frames are due to their skill set. Loki isn't suddenly gonna be picked up even if it has 300+ ability strength. This fixes pretty much... nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aldain Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 No good will come of invigorations, mark my words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redfeather75 Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 2 hours ago, Galuf said: 30K standing is not much and you can farm endo at the same time. I hate the zone but had the tokens. The are weapon buffs as well mixed in that are pretty massive, it's a mix of many thing, but it certainly is a cluster#*!% powerlevel wise. lmao you think I actually ranked up entrati to max. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesseract7777 Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 16 minutes ago, Redfeather75 said: lmao you think I actually ranked up entrati to max. Why didnt you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merrcenary Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 14 часов назад, Galuf сказал: and 3 new options every 24h are you sure that it is refreshing every 24h? i thought every 7 days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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