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Nidus prime 2021 design and ability ideas


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We all got to see the cool design on the tennocon twitch stream. It became powerful enough to infest orokin warframe technology and incorporated orokin gold warframe parts into itself so I thought why not give it more infested abilities while still keeping the original abilities. And some may ask how well you have toggle abilities and press and hold abilities. But why does he deserve more powerful abilities it would help explain the lore of how nidus and the helminth have evolved over time due to the lore since nidus is its master and the helminth system helps improve warframe abilities and share other warframe abilities with other warframe that have been consumed by the infested helminth which is nidus creation. So compare original nidus to nidus prime for abilities I feel like only nidus prime should get the new press to Hold abilities and some may argue with that decision making but its my opinion and de gets the final say but it would make sense with the lore.

So out of all its abilitys we get spikes aka virulence to make it more with the infested theme if you "hold the ability" you also leave the toxic sludge along with your spikes that leave corrosive procs just like other infested leave behind. (same ability + corrosive procs) *requires helminth system unlocked*

The next ability we get a ball of infested mass that grapples enemies aka Larva to make it more empowered with the ability of infested and still keeping with the infested theme if you "hold the ability" you can infect them with infestation turning downed enemies into spawn pods which hatch the enemies in infested friendly versions kind of like how nekros makes friendly units with shadows of the dead. (same ability + ally creation, possible weaker version of shadows of the dead) *requires helminth system unlocked*

The next ability we get is parasitic link which attaches to either 1 enemy or 1 team member. To make it more empowered with the ability of infested when used on a team mate it has the original effect of of boosting power strength but you also gain the power of helminth and you get to use their helminth ability as long as you remain attached. Now when you use the ability on a enemy it still has the original effect of taking some of the damage nidus gets but the now become an ally that fights alongside you. (same ability + helminth power steal/ ally creation) *requires helminth system unlocked*

The next ability we get is Ravenous to make it more empowered with the infested theme. It will still have the original effect but When the maggots help kill X amount of enemies then you will have a big spawn pod appear that will make a clone version of yourself which has all the powers of a regular nidus not an empowered nidus prime. (same ability + clone self) *requires helminth system unlocked*

And since nidus needs a empowered infested themed passive the only thing I can think of is it having its own version of umbra sentient passive where he can fight by himself when you pop into operator mode. But will fight like a regular nidus without the empowered abilities. But if DE desires it to fight with empowered abilities that's up to them. (umbra sentient passive) *requires helminth system unlocked*

And to keep this all fair all of the empowered versions of the ability work with nidus prime and is unlocked thru the helminth system... 

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3 minutes ago, Stalker_says_hello said:

I know when ever a prime version of a frame comes out the usually do an ability rework either on release or months later after release.

False, those who got one was because they needed one, Nidus doesn't need anything

 

EDIT: btw, your ideas are completely unreasonable, I mean, create a second Nidus to fight with you & Umbra's sentience? What even?

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Nidus his fine, his kit strikes a good balance between high power with high maintenance; get stacks, become unstoppable. I must say I do think his design is pretty good, though it looks like when he mutates he gets another layer of infestation over himself, rather than any strange ornaments. I love the way they did the golden accents on him though, it's roughly what I had in mind!

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7 hours ago, Ailia_Grimm said:

False, those who got one was because they needed one, Nidus doesn't need anything

 

EDIT: btw, your ideas are completely unreasonable, I mean, create a second Nidus to fight with you & Umbra's sentience? What even?

You realize they created a 2nd Excalibur with just improved abilities his roar weakens sentients other Excaliburs can't do that and also has sentient passive which other Excaliburs don't have I don't think what I'm asking is unreasonable at all since it would require interaction with the helminth system possibly maxing out helminth in order to unlock a stronger version of nidus prime which is just a helminth empowered nidus prime. 

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8 hours ago, _R_o_g_u_e_ said:

Why do you believe prime frames normally have their abilities changed?

I can’t actually recall that ever happening?

Most warframe eventually get a rework I forgot they have reworked nidus before but they might change his abilities again who knows I'm not de but generally when a prime frame gets release they eventually do a ability rework. Op said that only frame who need a rework gets a rework and nidus doesn't need anything he's already good and I'm just saying those are just ability suggestions that would go well with the lore of nidus and the helminth system and how nidus is the helminth master and helminth generally changes or improves abilities of warframe by consuming warframe and the idea of an empowered nidus being unlocked with a nidus prime for a permanent upgrade to the base abilities doesn't sound too far fetched and while all the abilities I have suggested togeather sounds over edge and over powered to some people they are just ideas and not all of them have to be implemented hence why things are called ideas it's up to DE to make the final say in things I put in general discussion so if someone else thinks prime nidus should unlock something with helminth that helps the lore between the 2 creatures I would love to hear their ideas. But instead of getting open minded people I get people getting mad over my ideas like I'm saying this is all finalized but it's not its just ideas if you have better ones then post or if you feel something is too overwhelming for an ability what would you replace it with out of my suggestions would you impliment 1 of these ideas if you were DE or would you come up with a different idea? 

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9 hours ago, Stalker_says_hello said:

You realize they created a 2nd Excalibur with just improved abilities his roar weakens sentients other Excaliburs can't do that and also has sentient passive which other Excaliburs don't have I don't think what I'm asking is unreasonable at all since it would require interaction with the helminth system possibly maxing out helminth in order to unlock a stronger version of nidus prime which is just a helminth empowered nidus prime. 

Nice bait, but Nidus is overall stronger than Umbra in many ways

What you are suggesting is completely overpowered, & as you can see, no one agrees with your ideas; so put you pride on the side for a second & move on to something else

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