david8814 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 The bug can be reproduced by equipping Mirage Prime and Primary/Secondary Merciless, then killing any enemies with her doppelgangers and with Mirage herself. Armament: Mirage Prime (Sleight of Hand swapped with Breach Surge) Stahlta, Kitgun, Redeemer Prime, Smeeta Kavat. It happened on Solo, while Hosting and as Client. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aria_Angela Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 I think this is because Hall of Mirror kills count as ability kills instead of weapon kills. Conditional mods (and arcanes) that require weapon kills will not trigger when Hall of Mirror scores a kill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EiraRozen Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 Yeah, I really don't like how the new mods and arcanes interact with a lot of Warframe abilities. Effectively your own abilities are kill stealing from you. Using these abilities result in a LOSS of DPS which makes no damned sense. Either these clones need to have their own stacks or need to contribute to your own. Personally, I think in Mirage's cases it makes sense for the clones and you to share stacks. In the case of Wukong and Equinox, it makes more sense for the clones to have their own stacks. Currently, they are just lost stacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iHeuksal Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 14 hours ago, HexArkZero said: I think this is because Hall of Mirror kills count as ability kills instead of weapon kills. Conditional mods (and arcanes) that require weapon kills will not trigger when Hall of Mirror scores a kill Mirage's mirrors do trigger arcane strike and such. DE is currently not doing their best to actually get acknowledged by the community to a more positive image. Every type of clone ("ability based kills") do not trigger the new arcanes and galvanized effects, for example. Galv mods worked halfa**ed, most of the new primary and secondary arcanes are not working with slash kills, even when explicitely procced on a head-bodypart, charge weapons have absolutely no real benefit from mentioned arcane passives aaaand so on. They rather break things (acolytes not spawning anymore, not dropping mentioned arcanes, AI falling off edges and disappearing for good ...) and fix exploits immediately while ignoring other important things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EiraRozen Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 23 hours ago, iHeuksal said: Mirage's mirrors do trigger arcane strike and such. DE is currently not doing their best to actually get acknowledged by the community to a more positive image. 23 hours ago, iHeuksal said: Every type of clone ("ability based kills") do not trigger the new arcanes and galvanized effects, for example. Those two things do not go together. And in either case, it's been verified that the new arcanes and mods don't work with Mirage's clones. And this is a problem. If it's working as intended, then it's broken by design because your own clone is kill stealing from you and robbing you of DPS. 23 hours ago, iHeuksal said: They rather break things (acolytes not spawning anymore, not dropping mentioned arcanes, AI falling off edges and disappearing for good ...) and fix exploits immediately while ignoring other important things. Yeah, I love how they fix the fun bugs and ignore the rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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