Arnul. Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 I've been on pc for like 2 3 years already and never saw a plat sale like on consoles. Does pc not get summer plat sales, Christmas plat sales etc.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LillyRaccune Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 DE has discounted their supporter packs in the past. Otherwise I just wait for a coupon... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walkampf Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 vor 50 Minuten schrieb LillyRaccune: DE has discounted their supporter packs in the past. Otherwise I just wait for a coupon... Exacly. If I remember right, coupons on the other hand don't exist on Consoles because auf the platform-shop restrictions. The sales were introduced as a substitute for the Platinum Coupons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dauggie Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 i often get 50-75% coupon since i never buy plat. the more you buy plat, the less coupons you will see in game. that's how the algorithm is set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdframe_Prime Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 Plat sales on Console only exist to balance out the fact that PC get discount Vouchers for 20/50/75% off Plat purchases randomly given to their accounts as login bonuses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hayrack Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 Plat discount coupons you randomly get on login, especially if you login rarely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krc473 Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 47 minutes ago, Dauggie said: i often get 50-75% coupon since i never buy plat. the more you buy plat, the less coupons you will see in game. that's how the algorithm is set. I would be inclined to agree with this. I used to rarely get coupons, and mostly low value ones when I did get them. I was buying plat and PA things at that time. I haven’t spent any money in a while, and I keep getting 50%+ coupons, it’s great. — — OP, PC doesn’t need a plat sale because of our discount coupons. Console does need a sale as they get market discount coupons instead of plat ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpicyDinosaur Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 1 hour ago, Dauggie said: i often get 50-75% coupon since i never buy plat. the more you buy plat, the less coupons you will see in game. that's how the algorithm is set. 1 hour ago, Hayrack said: Plat discount coupons you randomly get on login, especially if you login rarely. Sources? I've been playing for five years and I can't honestly attest to either of these outside of confirmation bias. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dauggie Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 1 hour ago, SpicyDinosaur said: Sources? I've been playing for five years and I can't honestly attest to either of these outside of confirmation bias. idk about you but i keep getting these discounts every week - 10 days. never seen 20/25% in my entire play through. everytime it's 50-75%. i don't buy plat since i grinded hard in my early days. now i still got 10k+ which i only use for skin bundles or slots. but even that get's replenish if i manage to get some new weapon riven. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fo3nixz Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 on pc its called Coupons.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soy77 Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 3 hours ago, Dauggie said: i often get 50-75% coupon since i never buy plat. the more you buy plat, the less coupons you will see in game. that's how the algorithm is set. 1 hour ago, SpicyDinosaur said: Sources? I've been playing for five years and I can't honestly attest to either of these outside of confirmation bias. yeah, it reminds of one dude here who keep getting 75% multiple times because he claims to keep buying them. it make sense if DE want to charge full price for big spenders who'll keep buying plats anyway. totally logical thinking. but the opposite is not a bad logic as well, if someone only buys when he got good coupons, then keep giving good coupons so he'll keep spending money. some profit is better than no profit. and generating plats doesn't costs DE anything so it's always a win for them. would love to see if there's a legitimate source for the claim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trst Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 1 hour ago, SpicyDinosaur said: Sources? I've been playing for five years and I can't honestly attest to either of these outside of confirmation bias. The theories I've heard is that there is a sort of timer that determines when you'll get a coupon on login (which IIRC was semi confirmed by players). Then if you don't login on the day you're supposed to roll it then it gets saved for your next login. And if you miss multiple of these "coupon days" in a row then it'll save the highest value one you've gotten. Thus players tend to get a 75% after leaving the game for extended periods. None of it is really hard confirmed to work like this but with years of observations this seems to be how it functions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpicyDinosaur Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 Okay, Apparently confirmation bias is not a familiar term for everyone. To quote dictionary.com: "bias that results from the tendency to process and analyze information in such a way that it supports one’s preexisting ideas and convictions:" You are predisposed to see causality for things they are unrelated if it supports your beliefs as to how any of this stuff happens. And that includes if you initially get "hunches" about how the algorithm works. The "proof" people bring up of other players experiencing something similar or their own personal experiences is not the same as actually knowing what the algorithm is and it isn't proof of any sort, either. Edit: to clarify further, I haven't experienced things the same in five years. If I don't spend money for a long time on plat, it doesn't increase or decrease my chance at 75% off coupons etc, same with not logging in regularly or logging in every day. However, my opinion on this is also not proof of anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiia Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 6 hours ago, LillyRaccune said: DE has discounted their supporter packs in the past. Otherwise I just wait for a coupon... Coupon, what is this mythical thing you speak of. Where does such am item come from, and how to capture one of my own. Never got one in eight years... ...and I took nearly four years off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aguzo Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 I haven't played in a while. Logged in last night and saw a 75% coupon. $50 for 4.3k plat... very tempting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cha0sWyrM Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 6 hours ago, Dauggie said: the more you buy plat, the less coupons you will see in game. that's how the algorithm is set. whats your source for that? because i get most of my coupons shortly after i have used one. i only ever buy plat when i get a 75% off coupon, but i load up when i do get one. which could take months and months....my most recent one took over a year. but every time i do use one...i get at least a 50 and 2 or more 20s within the next week or so. this is a basic sales technique. if someone buys something...you immediately try to get them to buy more. if a customer exhibits a pattern of buying things when you offer a sale...then...you keep offering them sales. especially when the item on sale has no real value and costs you nothing to provide. maybe you want 100 bucks for the thing...but you know...getting 25 is better than getting nothing. it doesnt make any sense for the algo to offer less coupons the more you buy...thats backwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hayrack Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 13 hours ago, SpicyDinosaur said: Sources? I've been playing for five years and I can't honestly attest to either of these outside of confirmation bias. Playing almost 2 years, have 0 plat (starter plat spent). Sometimes I log in only on weekends, sometimes my play sessions are much shorter than usual, and boom, 50-75 discount coupon on next login. Very tempting, but so far RGN is not total pita, cosmetics are meh for me, so if I ever give in, it's because I need inventory slots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpicyDinosaur Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 2 hours ago, Hayrack said: Playing almost 2 years, have 0 plat (starter plat spent). Sometimes I log in only on weekends, sometimes my play sessions are much shorter than usual, and boom, 50-75 discount coupon on next login. Very tempting, but so far RGN is not total pita, cosmetics are meh for me, so if I ever give in, it's because I need inventory slots. 13 hours ago, SpicyDinosaur said: Okay, Apparently confirmation bias is not a familiar term for everyone. To quote dictionary.com: "bias that results from the tendency to process and analyze information in such a way that it supports one’s preexisting ideas and convictions:" You are predisposed to see causality for things they are unrelated if it supports your beliefs as to how any of this stuff happens. And that includes if you initially get "hunches" about how the algorithm works. The "proof" people bring up of other players experiencing something similar or their own personal experiences is not the same as actually knowing what the algorithm is and it isn't proof of any sort, either. Edit: to clarify further, I haven't experienced things the same in five years. If I don't spend money for a long time on plat, it doesn't increase or decrease my chance at 75% off coupons etc, same with not logging in regularly or logging in every day. However, my opinion on this is also not proof of anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkelheit Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 Any Prime access is a huge discount to plat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hayrack Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 11 hours ago, SpicyDinosaur said: 🙄 Do i have to abstain from Warframe for several weeks in a row to prove you that login frequency (maybe spare plat owned too) affects chance to get plat discount coupon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpicyDinosaur Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 43 minutes ago, Hayrack said: 🙄 Do i have to abstain from Warframe for several weeks in a row to prove you that login frequency (maybe spare plat owned too) affects chance to get plat discount coupon? No offense, but it appears your reading comprehension is limited wrt this topic. Anecdotal evidence, as I explained in the post you quoted is the exact kind of thing confirmation bias works off of. BTW I've had periods where I didn't log in for a stretch of time and not experienced anything different. I've had 90p or 4kp and not experienced anything differently. Or when I did, it didn't happen consistently at all. So my advice is to get a larger sample size (maybe at least a few thousand players, I'm not a statistics person but even I know that is kind of low still,) and use the scientific method to do a study on your statements before proclaiming them fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katinka Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 On 2021-08-26 at 11:25 AM, SpicyDinosaur said: Sources? I've been playing for five years and I can't honestly attest to either of these outside of confirmation bias. I think the 'login rarely' idea entered common community belief a long time ago under a different system in which it was actually true. Under the current system I haven't seen any evidence beyond anecdotes. Under the old system, before it started counting total logins and instead gave rewards based on consecutive logins, there were different reward tables for 3, 5, and 7 days. All could offer discounted plat but the 5 and 7 days reward lists were expanded with other tasty rewards like Forma, Reactors, Catalysts but also less tasty rewards like warframe and weapon blueprints that were available in the store for credits. There was clearly a reason then to avoid playing for a day to drop back to the lowest table and avoid drop table bloat if someone wanted a discount. After the change to login rewards, I suspect the idea that not logging in gives better chance of discount is simply confirmation bias mixed with the continuation of the concept of that being 'how it is' from people who heard it once but didn't know why it used to happen under the old system, or why the reasons for that no longer apply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpicyDinosaur Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 6 minutes ago, Katinka said: I think the 'login rarely' idea entered common community belief a long time ago under a different system in which it was actually true. Under the current system I haven't seen any evidence beyond anecdotes. Under the old system, before it started counting total logins and instead gave rewards based on consecutive logins, there were different reward tables for 3, 5, and 7 days. All could offer discounted plat but the 5 and 7 days reward lists were expanded with other tasty rewards like Forma, Reactors, Catalysts but also less tasty rewards like warframe and weapon blueprints that were available in the store for credits. There was clearly a reason then to avoid playing for a day to drop back to the lowest table and avoid drop table bloat if someone wanted a discount. After the change to login rewards, I suspect the idea that not logging in gives better chance of discount is simply confirmation bias mixed with the continuation of the concept of that being 'how it is' from people who heard it once but didn't know why it used to happen under the old system, or why the reasons for that no longer apply. I'm glad someone remembers that. I remember them implementing the daily login system as it is now, but couldn't for the life remember how it worked previously. I've labored under the same misconceptions in the past, but I really don't think, with the myriad of ways I have done the things mentioned in this thread (logging in, not logging in, buying plat, etc) I started to be unable to see a pattern. There may very well be one, but unless someone wants to do some digging or get DE to answer the question, we can't know.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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