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Galvanized mods that are intended to be condition overload for guns currently ignore the weapon's lich bonus damage and don't work at all on AOE attacks. 

Please prioritize fixing this.

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Non-hitscan weapons are only getting 10% of the listed damage buff from the galvanized status mods

Reproduction: Equip one of the galvanized status mod on the non-hitscan weapon of your choice. Activate the buff. then attack a status inflicted enemy and see that the damage increase will only be 10% of the value listed in the mod description.

 

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as stated in the titles the 3 galvanized status mods still don't give the proper damage increase on weapons that are projectile based instead of hitscan, tested with a 120% status chance bolter prime with 30% crit chance to compare yellow damage numbers with 4 status effects on level 85 infested chargers due to them not having armor and are still easy to kill with no damage mods other than some elemental ones to add some extra status effects (impact, puncture, cold and radiation) it gets 507 damage with 4 status on crit with a fully upgraded galvanized aptitude with both stacks and 867 with serration even though galvanized aptitude should be giving way more damage by how it should be 320% vs 165%. this same test appears to be the case for most projectile weapons still on console making these mods pointless on several weapons until it is fixed.

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  • [DE]Danielle changed the title to Galvanized aptitude/savvy/shot not applying to certain weapons (Investigating)

Have a dump of what does and doesn't work properly with Galvanized Aptitude/Savvy/Shot from my testing. List is not comprehensive. As others have said, it does not work on AoE, period, unless otherwise noted. So the AoE portions of weapons that it does work on are unaffected. Example: It works on the direct hits of Shedu, but not the AoE portion.

Acceltra: Scales off of 10 dam
Astilla (Prime): Scales off of 3(?) base dam
Attica: Scales off of 55 base dam
Basmu: Works
Battacor: Works on both modes
Boltor Prime: Scales off of 8 base dam
Bubonico: Works
Buzlok: Works
Cernos Prime: Scales off of 10 base dam
Daikyu: Scales off of 10 base dam
Dera Vandal: Scales off of 8 base dam
Drakgoon: Scales off of 15 base dam (both modes)
Dread: Scales off of 8 base dam
Exergis: Works
Fulmin: Works
Harpak: Scales off of 1 base dam. Doesn't work on alt
Hema: Works
Javlok: Works on Primary fire, scales off of 10 base dam on Alt
Komorex: Doesn't work
Lanka: Scales off of 10 base dam
Miter: Scales off of 10 base dam
MK-1 Paris: Scales off of 8 base dam
Mutalist Cernos: Scales off of 10 base dam. Cloud works as expected, but only on targets hit directly by the arrow
Mutalist Quanta: Scales off of 10 base dam
Nagantaka: Primary fire scales off of 55 base dam. Alt-fire scales off of 40 base dam
Panthera (Prime): Primary fire scales off of 10 base dam. Alt-fire works
Paris Prime: Scales off of 8 base dam
Prisma Tetra: Scales off of 10 base dam
Proboscis Cernos: Scales off of 10 base dam
Rakta Cernos: Scales off of 10 base dam
Scourge: Primary fire works as expected. Alt-fire scales off of 10 base dam
Shedu: Works as expected
Sporothrix: Scales off of 10 base dam
Stahlta: Works on both modes
Supra Vandal: Scales off of 10 base dam
Telos Boltor: Scales off of 8 base dam
Tonkor: Scales off of 10 base dam
Torid: Works on direct hit + AoE (only on targets hit directly)
Zarr: Doesn't work on Alt-fire
Zhuge (Prime): Scales off of 55 base dam
Akarius: Works
Akbolto Prime: Scales off of 20 base dam
Ballistica Prime: Scales off of 8 base dam
Cyanex: Works on both modes
Despair: Scales off of 10 base dam
Detron: Scales off of 15 base dam
Dual Cestra: Scales off of 10 base dam
Epitaph: Works as expected
Euphona Prime: Scales off of 150 base dam on Primary fire
Fusilai: Primary fire scales off of 6 base dam. Alt-fire scales off of 10 base dam
Hikou Prime: Scales off of 6 base dam
Hystrix:
Poison Quill: Works
Fire Quill: Scales off of 10 base dam
Elec Quill: Scales off of 10 base dam
Cold Quill: Scales off of 10 base dam
Mara Detron: Scales off of 15 base dam
Rakta Ballistica: Un-charged shots scale off of 12 base dam. Charged Shots Scale off of 10 base dam
Secura Dual Cestra: Scales off of 10 base dam
Seer: Works
Sepulcrum: Works on both modes
Spira (Prime): Scales off of 6 base dam
Staticor: Scales off of 20 base dam
Telos Akbolto: Scales off of 20 base dam
Tysis: Scales off of 12 base dam. DoT is unaffected
Zakti (Prime): Works as expected
Kuva Drakgoon: Scales off of 15 base dam
Kuva Ogris: Scales off of 10 base dam
Kuva Chakkhurr: Scales off of 49 base dam
Kuva Zarr: Doesn't work on Barrage mode
Kuva Bramma: Scales off of 10 base damage
Kuva Tonkor: Scales off of 10 base dam
Tenet Tetra: Scales off of 10 base dam on both modes
Tenet Arca Plasmor: Works
Tenet Envoy: Works
Kuva Seer: Works
Tenet Detron: Primary fire scales off of 15 base dam. Alt-fire scales off of 10 base dam
Tenet Spirex: Works
Tenet Diplos: Primary fire scales off of 10 base dam, Gimmick mode works as expected

Bugged Hitscan Weapons:
Kohm: Scales off of 15 base dam
Kuva Kohm: Scales off of 10 base dam
(Twin) Kohmak: Scales off of 15 base dam


Note that on projectiles where the mods do work “properly” (i.e. weapons in the list that say "Works"), they are multiplicative to other +base dam bonuses i.e it's (1 + base dam mods) x (1 + Galv mods)

Edited by (XBOX)TheWayOfWisdom
Clarification for weapons with AoE components.
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Please note that Kuva and Tenet melee weapons, as well as melee explosions (glaives) also suffer from this on the traditional Condition Overload mod.

You'll find some guns are overcounting as well, such as catchmoon secondary. They incorrectly multiply +damage mods instead of adding with them.

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Projectile melees such as Quassus(heavy atk), Arum Spinosa(heavy atk), Sarpa(heavy atk and shots), and Stropha(heavy atk and shots) also suffer from the same bugs with the traditional Condition Overload mod.

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3 hours ago, [DE]Danielle said:

Hey Tenno! We are aware of the issue and are investigating. It requires some diligent testing to make sure each weapon affected has it applied appropriately. Thanks for reporting.  

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3 hours ago, (XBOX)TheWayOfWisdom said:

Have a dump of what does and doesn't work properly with Galvanized Aptitude/Savvy/Shot from my testing. List is not comprehensive.

Acceltra: Scales off of 10 dam
Astilla (Prime): Scales off of 3(?) base dam
Attica: Scales off of 55 base dam
Basmu: Works
Battacor: Works on both modes
Boltor Prime: Scales off of 8 base dam
Bubonico: Works
Buzlok: Works
Cernos Prime: Scales off of 10 base dam
Daikyu: Scales off of 10 base dam
Dera Vandal: Scales off of 8 base dam
Drakgoon: Scales off of 15 base dam (both modes)
Dread: Scales off of 8 base dam
Exergis: Works
Fulmin: Works
Harpak: Scales off of 1 base dam. Doesn't work on alt
Hema: Works
Javlok: Works on Primary fire, scales off of 10 base dam on Alt
Komorex: Doesn't work
Lanka: Scales off of 10 base dam
Miter: Scales off of 10 base dam
MK-1 Paris: Scales off of 8 base dam
Mutalist Cernos: Scales off of 10 base dam. Cloud works as expected, but only on targets hit directly by the arrow
Mutalist Quanta: Scales off of 10 base dam
Nagantaka: Primary fire scales off of 55 base dam. Alt-fire scales off of 40 base dam
Panthera (Prime): Primary fire scales off of 10 base dam. Alt-fire works
Paris Prime: Scales off of 8 base dam
Prisma Tetra: Scales off of 10 base dam
Proboscis Cernos: Scales off of 10 base dam
Rakta Cernos: Scales off of 10 base dam
Scourge: Primary fire works as expected. Alt-fire scales off of 10 base dam
Shedu: Works as expected
Sporothrix: Scales off of 10 base dam
Works on both modes
Supra Vandal: Scales off of 10 base dam
Telos Boltor: Scales off of 8 base dam
Tonkor: Scales off of 10 base dam
Torid: Works on direct hit + AoE (only on targets hit directly)
Zarr: Doesn't work on Alt-fire
Zhuge (Prime): Scales off of 55 base dam
Akarius: Works
Akbolto Prime: Scales off of 20 base dam
Ballistica Prime: Scales off of 8 base dam
Cyanex: Works on both modes
Despair: Scales off of 10 base dam
Detron: Scales off of 15 base dam
Dual Cestra: Scales off of 10 base dam
Epitaph: Works as expected
Euphona Prime: Scales off of 150 base dam on Primary fire
Fusilai: Primary fire scales off of 6 base dam. Alt-fire scales off of 10 base dam
Hikou Prime: Scales off of 6 base dam
Hystrix:
Poison Quill: Works
Fire Quill: Scales off of 10 base dam
Elec Quill: Scales off of 10 base dam
Cold Quill: Scales off of 10 base dam
Mara Detron: Scales off of 15 base dam
Rakta Ballistica: Un-charged shots scale off of 12 base dam. Charged Shots Scale off of 10 base dam
Secura Dual Cestra: Scales off of 10 base dam
Seer: Works
Sepulcrum: Works on both modes
Spira (Prime): Scales off of 6 base dam
Staticor: Scales off of 20 base dam
Telos Akbolto: Scales off of 20 base dam
Tysis: Scales off of 12 base dam. DoT is unaffected
Zakti (Prime): Works as expected
Kuva Drakgoon: Scales off of 15 base dam
Kuva Ogris: Scales off of 10 base dam
Kuva Chakkhurr: Scales off of 49 base dam
Kuva Zarr: Doesn't work on Barrage mode
Kuva Bramma: Scales off of 10 base damage
Kuva Tonkor: Scales off of 10 base dam
Tenet Tetra: Scales off of 10 base dam on both modes
Tenet Arca Plasmor: Works
Tenet Envoy: Works
Kuva Seer: Works
Tenet Detron: Primary fire scales off of 15 base dam. Alt-fire scales off of 10 base dam
Tenet Spirex: Works
Tenet Diplos: Primary fire scales off of 10 base dam, Gimmick mode works as expected

Bugged Hitscan Weapons:
Kohm: Scales off of 15 base dam
Kuva Kohm: Scales off of 10 base dam
(Twin) Kohmak: Scales off of 15 base dam


Note that on projectiles where the mods do work “properly”, they are multiplicative to other + base dam bonuses i.e it's (1 + base dam mods) x (1 + Galv mods).

As others have said, it does not work on AoE, period.

FFS DE needs to hire people like you to cover for their testing

way more thorough than their internal people

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5 hours ago, (XBOX)TheWayOfWisdom said:

Have a dump of what does and doesn't work properly with Galvanized Aptitude/Savvy/Shot from my testing. List is not comprehensive

Well done. Thank you for your effort! Hopefully not in vain.

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10 hours ago, (XBOX)TheWayOfWisdom said:

Have a dump of what does and doesn't work properly with Galvanized Aptitude/Savvy/Shot from my testing. List is not comprehensive.

Acceltra: Scales off of 10 dam
Astilla (Prime): Scales off of 3(?) base dam
Attica: Scales off of 55 base dam
Basmu: Works
Battacor: Works on both modes
Boltor Prime: Scales off of 8 base dam
Bubonico: Works
Buzlok: Works
Cernos Prime: Scales off of 10 base dam
Daikyu: Scales off of 10 base dam
Dera Vandal: Scales off of 8 base dam
Drakgoon: Scales off of 15 base dam (both modes)
Dread: Scales off of 8 base dam
Exergis: Works
Fulmin: Works
Harpak: Scales off of 1 base dam. Doesn't work on alt
Hema: Works
Javlok: Works on Primary fire, scales off of 10 base dam on Alt
Komorex: Doesn't work
Lanka: Scales off of 10 base dam
Miter: Scales off of 10 base dam
MK-1 Paris: Scales off of 8 base dam
Mutalist Cernos: Scales off of 10 base dam. Cloud works as expected, but only on targets hit directly by the arrow
Mutalist Quanta: Scales off of 10 base dam
Nagantaka: Primary fire scales off of 55 base dam. Alt-fire scales off of 40 base dam
Panthera (Prime): Primary fire scales off of 10 base dam. Alt-fire works
Paris Prime: Scales off of 8 base dam
Prisma Tetra: Scales off of 10 base dam
Proboscis Cernos: Scales off of 10 base dam
Rakta Cernos: Scales off of 10 base dam
Scourge: Primary fire works as expected. Alt-fire scales off of 10 base dam
Shedu: Works as expected
Sporothrix: Scales off of 10 base dam
Works on both modes
Supra Vandal: Scales off of 10 base dam
Telos Boltor: Scales off of 8 base dam
Tonkor: Scales off of 10 base dam
Torid: Works on direct hit + AoE (only on targets hit directly)
Zarr: Doesn't work on Alt-fire
Zhuge (Prime): Scales off of 55 base dam
Akarius: Works
Akbolto Prime: Scales off of 20 base dam
Ballistica Prime: Scales off of 8 base dam
Cyanex: Works on both modes
Despair: Scales off of 10 base dam
Detron: Scales off of 15 base dam
Dual Cestra: Scales off of 10 base dam
Epitaph: Works as expected
Euphona Prime: Scales off of 150 base dam on Primary fire
Fusilai: Primary fire scales off of 6 base dam. Alt-fire scales off of 10 base dam
Hikou Prime: Scales off of 6 base dam
Hystrix:
Poison Quill: Works
Fire Quill: Scales off of 10 base dam
Elec Quill: Scales off of 10 base dam
Cold Quill: Scales off of 10 base dam
Mara Detron: Scales off of 15 base dam
Rakta Ballistica: Un-charged shots scale off of 12 base dam. Charged Shots Scale off of 10 base dam
Secura Dual Cestra: Scales off of 10 base dam
Seer: Works
Sepulcrum: Works on both modes
Spira (Prime): Scales off of 6 base dam
Staticor: Scales off of 20 base dam
Telos Akbolto: Scales off of 20 base dam
Tysis: Scales off of 12 base dam. DoT is unaffected
Zakti (Prime): Works as expected
Kuva Drakgoon: Scales off of 15 base dam
Kuva Ogris: Scales off of 10 base dam
Kuva Chakkhurr: Scales off of 49 base dam
Kuva Zarr: Doesn't work on Barrage mode
Kuva Bramma: Scales off of 10 base damage
Kuva Tonkor: Scales off of 10 base dam
Tenet Tetra: Scales off of 10 base dam on both modes
Tenet Arca Plasmor: Works
Tenet Envoy: Works
Kuva Seer: Works
Tenet Detron: Primary fire scales off of 15 base dam. Alt-fire scales off of 10 base dam
Tenet Spirex: Works
Tenet Diplos: Primary fire scales off of 10 base dam, Gimmick mode works as expected

Bugged Hitscan Weapons:
Kohm: Scales off of 15 base dam
Kuva Kohm: Scales off of 10 base dam
(Twin) Kohmak: Scales off of 15 base dam


Note that on projectiles where the mods do work “properly”, they are multiplicative to other + base dam bonuses i.e it's (1 + base dam mods) x (1 + Galv mods).

As others have said, it does not work on AoE, period.

Must be different from psn then... My shedu and mutalist cernos not getting no damage at all. Same damage as if i had it unequipped. 

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10 hours ago, (PSN)Dyin-Kyo said:

Must be different from psn then... My shedu and mutalist cernos not getting no damage at all. Same damage as if i had it unequipped. 

It doesn't work on AoE attacks, so the Shedu's radial damage won't get buffed. It works fine on the direct hit though.


Shedu direct hit does 71 heat damage, and Infested (the health type) has a +25% bonus to heat. You can see I do 89 damage, which is expected (71 x 1.25 = 88.75)
When I have 2 stacks of Galvanized Aptitude (+80% dam per status), you can see that I do 160 damage, which is expected. 71 x 1.25 x (1 + 0.8) = 159.75

As for Mutalist Cernos,

20 hours ago, (XBOX)TheWayOfWisdom said:

Mutalist Cernos: Scales off of 10 base dam. Cloud works as expected, but only on targets hit directly by the arrow

You're not going to get a noticeable damage increase on the arrow given that it has 410 base damage on charged shots

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22 hours ago, (XBOX)TheWayOfWisdom said:

Have a dump of what does and doesn't work properly with Galvanized Aptitude/Savvy/Shot from my testing. List is not comprehensive. As others have said, it does not work on AoE, period, unless otherwise noted. So the AoE portions of weapons that it does work on are unaffected. Example: It works on the direct hits of Shedu, but not the AoE portion.

Acceltra: Scales off of 10 dam
Astilla (Prime): Scales off of 3(?) base dam
Attica: Scales off of 55 base dam
Basmu: Works
Battacor: Works on both modes
Boltor Prime: Scales off of 8 base dam
Bubonico: Works
Buzlok: Works
Cernos Prime: Scales off of 10 base dam
Daikyu: Scales off of 10 base dam
Dera Vandal: Scales off of 8 base dam
Drakgoon: Scales off of 15 base dam (both modes)
Dread: Scales off of 8 base dam
Exergis: Works
Fulmin: Works
Harpak: Scales off of 1 base dam. Doesn't work on alt
Hema: Works
Javlok: Works on Primary fire, scales off of 10 base dam on Alt
Komorex: Doesn't work
Lanka: Scales off of 10 base dam
Miter: Scales off of 10 base dam
MK-1 Paris: Scales off of 8 base dam
Mutalist Cernos: Scales off of 10 base dam. Cloud works as expected, but only on targets hit directly by the arrow
Mutalist Quanta: Scales off of 10 base dam
Nagantaka: Primary fire scales off of 55 base dam. Alt-fire scales off of 40 base dam
Panthera (Prime): Primary fire scales off of 10 base dam. Alt-fire works
Paris Prime: Scales off of 8 base dam
Prisma Tetra: Scales off of 10 base dam
Proboscis Cernos: Scales off of 10 base dam
Rakta Cernos: Scales off of 10 base dam
Scourge: Primary fire works as expected. Alt-fire scales off of 10 base dam
Shedu: Works as expected
Sporothrix: Scales off of 10 base dam
Works on both modes
Supra Vandal: Scales off of 10 base dam
Telos Boltor: Scales off of 8 base dam
Tonkor: Scales off of 10 base dam
Torid: Works on direct hit + AoE (only on targets hit directly)
Zarr: Doesn't work on Alt-fire
Zhuge (Prime): Scales off of 55 base dam
Akarius: Works
Akbolto Prime: Scales off of 20 base dam
Ballistica Prime: Scales off of 8 base dam
Cyanex: Works on both modes
Despair: Scales off of 10 base dam
Detron: Scales off of 15 base dam
Dual Cestra: Scales off of 10 base dam
Epitaph: Works as expected
Euphona Prime: Scales off of 150 base dam on Primary fire
Fusilai: Primary fire scales off of 6 base dam. Alt-fire scales off of 10 base dam
Hikou Prime: Scales off of 6 base dam
Hystrix:
Poison Quill: Works
Fire Quill: Scales off of 10 base dam
Elec Quill: Scales off of 10 base dam
Cold Quill: Scales off of 10 base dam
Mara Detron: Scales off of 15 base dam
Rakta Ballistica: Un-charged shots scale off of 12 base dam. Charged Shots Scale off of 10 base dam
Secura Dual Cestra: Scales off of 10 base dam
Seer: Works
Sepulcrum: Works on both modes
Spira (Prime): Scales off of 6 base dam
Staticor: Scales off of 20 base dam
Telos Akbolto: Scales off of 20 base dam
Tysis: Scales off of 12 base dam. DoT is unaffected
Zakti (Prime): Works as expected
Kuva Drakgoon: Scales off of 15 base dam
Kuva Ogris: Scales off of 10 base dam
Kuva Chakkhurr: Scales off of 49 base dam
Kuva Zarr: Doesn't work on Barrage mode
Kuva Bramma: Scales off of 10 base damage
Kuva Tonkor: Scales off of 10 base dam
Tenet Tetra: Scales off of 10 base dam on both modes
Tenet Arca Plasmor: Works
Tenet Envoy: Works
Kuva Seer: Works
Tenet Detron: Primary fire scales off of 15 base dam. Alt-fire scales off of 10 base dam
Tenet Spirex: Works
Tenet Diplos: Primary fire scales off of 10 base dam, Gimmick mode works as expected

Bugged Hitscan Weapons:
Kohm: Scales off of 15 base dam
Kuva Kohm: Scales off of 10 base dam
(Twin) Kohmak: Scales off of 15 base dam


Note that on projectiles where the mods do work “properly” (i.e. weapons in the list that say "Works"), they are multiplicative to other +base dam bonuses i.e it's (1 + base dam mods) x (1 + Galv mods)

Holy c**p, thank you for doing this.

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