Zahnny Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 This is just a bit of a personal thought I've had for a while now, wanting to post about it but not bothering to until now. The most obvious example people will probably say, due to the rivalry with Gauss is Volt. Not that I disagree with it. But should all Warframes, regardless, be able to sprint across water if they are above a certain sprint speed threshold? Regardless if that's base Sprint Speed, or assisted via abilities? Personally, one of my main frames is Nezha, in which I own two Nezha P's for different forma polarity loadouts. Out of those two, the one I like using for more casual play is a heavy Duration and Sprint Speed build (Yeah I know most people say use Slide mods, but I find it uncontrollable and more like playing Gauss using slide mods, so I use Sprint Speed instead.) Combined with Fire Walker, with an innate 25% sprint buff, that cannot be affected by power strength. (Infested Mobility is also added because why not.) This results in me having a rather fast Nezha capable of running at incredibly high speeds which often leaves me wondering. If I'm going this fast already, why can't I just run across water like Gauss? Nezha and Volt are the two most immediate frames I can think of who would benefit from this, besides Gauss himself. But I think it'd be a shame if it was locked behind a few specific abilities. Why not, if a frame can reach a threshold, whether that's base sprint, or augmented by an ally Volt, should they not be able to run on water too? It was a cool concept for Gauss, but it's kind of just a gimmick. One I see no harm in being shared to other frames. He'd just have the easiest time pulling it off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leqesai Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 IMO neither Nezha or Volt make sense for running on water. Volt is charged with electricity and electricity+water is a bad mix. Similarly Nezha's fire would be put out by the water. Nezha's Firewalker being subsumable would also lead to all frames being able to run on water with it which sort of undermines the uniqueness of Gauss having this as part of his kit. Not to mention Gauss runs significantly faster than Nezha/Volt so it makes the most sense that he is able to run on water and they are not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Lollybomb Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 If anything at least Wisp and Titania should be able to traverse water, even without sprinting. But either way, I don't really see much of a point for it. Not against it, but wouldn't be all that jazzed if they added it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zahnny Posted September 11, 2021 Author Share Posted September 11, 2021 50 minutes ago, Leqesai said: IMO neither Nezha or Volt make sense for running on water. Volt is charged with electricity and electricity+water is a bad mix. Similarly Nezha's fire would be put out by the water. Nezha's Firewalker being subsumable would also lead to all frames being able to run on water with it which sort of undermines the uniqueness of Gauss having this as part of his kit. Not to mention Gauss runs significantly faster than Nezha/Volt so it makes the most sense that he is able to run on water and they are not. I guess, but I can imagine someone has probably made a slow Gauss Mach Rush build. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leqesai Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 Just now, Zahnny said: I guess, but I can imagine someone has probably made a slow Gauss Mach Rush build. You're thinking about the abilities after modification though. By default Mach Rush is a fast movement ability and is faster than the frames you mentioned. This is how the ability was designed. Modding for/against the speed of your warframe should not change whether or not that frame is able to walk on water IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zahnny Posted September 11, 2021 Author Share Posted September 11, 2021 Fair. It's why I wanted to think about it more along the lines of ascending past a certain speed would allow it, and if you went below it while on water you'd just sink. Granted, K-Drives already allow for all warframes to go over water anyway, true abilities are locked but you still have access to secondaries. I just personally can't see it causing too much problems, and if you lost your speed, it'd only be a hinderance. So Gauss would still be the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Unstar Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 [spit-take] WAIT, GAUSS CAN RUN ON WATER!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deminisis Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 Wisp and Titania, since they are supposed to float in the first place. Hydroid maybe should too, or at least be able to extend Tidal surge's duration when connecting with a body of water. There's no real advantage to it, but it would be a nice attention to detail and give something unique to more frames. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)The1stAzrael Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 Please don't, I feel as though doing this would take away from the uniqueness of Gauss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aguzo Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rapt0rman Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 While not quite running on water, I think it would be pretty neat if water jumping was added as a general parkour thing. It wouldn't have to be easy or convenient, but it would reset your bullet jump and double jump, allowing anyone who's careful enough to cross any body of water or even fight above/on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesseract7777 Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 37 minutes ago, Aguzo said: This is great where did you find this lmfao. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)thowed Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 Frost should be able to make an ice bridge if we're getting technical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)robotwars7 Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 to be fair, I'm OK with that just being Gauss' thing, though can't Yareli also just use Merulina as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)DoctorWho_90250 Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 3 hours ago, Deminisis said: Wisp and Titania, since they are supposed to float in the first place. Hydroid maybe should too, or at least be able to extend Tidal surge's duration when connecting with a body of water. There's no real advantage to it, but it would be a nice attention to detail and give something unique to more frames. Hydroid should be able to swim in water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aguzo Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 2 hours ago, Tesseract7777 said: This is great where did you find this lmfao. Made it when I saw the post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TARINunit9 Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 5 hours ago, Leqesai said: Similarly Nezha's fire would be put out by the water. That depends whether it's Nezha's fire is causing the speed, or whether Nezha's speed is causing the fire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Rez090 Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 4 hours ago, (PSN)Unstar said: [spit-take] WAIT, GAUSS CAN RUN ON WATER!?! You didn't know this? Funny, DE showed this at Tennocon 2019. The two frames that more come to my mind of having movement on water/coolant are Hydroid and Frost. Hydroid is a water pirate. Frost can copy the move of every other ice superhero out there by spraying ice in front of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Skippy575 Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 1 hour ago, (PSN)DoctorWho_90250 said: Hydroid should be able to swim in water. Or at the very least let Tidal Surge propel him across water. That'd be dope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nslay Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 Considering we can walk through outer space (like in Eris tile set), we should be able to walk in the water. Would make fishing more like Deimos... only we'll be under water rather than the fish over water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzmoe Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 In the Warframe 2019 trailer Volt was able to run so fast that it appeared time was frozen so it does make sense that volt would be fast enough to run on water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LillyRaccune Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 19 minutes ago, nslay said: we should be able to walk in the water. *Vore feelings intensify* I agree, we don't need to black out when our feet hit the water. I don't think I would like it if we were forced into Shark Wing either. I just want to walk with the fishies! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0_The_F00l Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 I think all frames that can reach a certain sprint speed (5? 6?) should be able to run on water. Wisp and titania (and any other floaty frames coming up) should just have it as a passive. Hydroid should be able to just turn into a tidal wave and move in any body of water. Frost could have a unique interaction where he freezes the water and walks over it. Yeah , I got that from genshin impact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)slightconfuzzled Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 In addition to Hydroid, Titania and Wisp, Nezha and Volt... Let Grendel eat all the water, then walk across the newly dry land! Nova should also be able to slow the water, enough to walk on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NecroPed Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 8 hours ago, rapt0rman said: While not quite running on water, I think it would be pretty neat if water jumping was added as a general parkour thing. It wouldn't have to be easy or convenient, but it would reset your bullet jump and double jump, allowing anyone who's careful enough to cross any body of water or even fight above/on it. That would be amazing. I'd love to be able to use the water to try and get further, as long as failing is still a possibility, but would probably need the lower the reset position for water so it doesn't reset you so easily. Would be pretty fun skipping myself along the water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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