Orphix mission are stupid

[Mc_Fatiy]

been trying to do some veil, and i cam across orphix mission, sense no one like rail jack in the first place, becouse you can only do 1 mission then restart the game without some sort of glitch of bug that soft lock the game, orphix on veil are way to hard to do, finding people do this cost will cost you plat or a gun to there face, no one likes them, to hard to do, got max out gun and necro, still no damage, the game spawn in 3 orphix in 20 sec of entre the first yellow zone, how are you suppose too do this? stupid mode, remove from the game or nerf it, nothing to grind on them, dropps nothing good, 1 time mission that is just dumb. 

[DonGheddo]

1 minute ago, Mc_Fatiy said:

no one like rail jack in the first place

I do, so please speak for yourself.

[(XBOX)C11H22O11]

You sure your Archgun is maxed? You using corrosive? You just have to shoot it then take out the red nodes then shoot again then it's dead.

The orphix spawns in patterns but that shouldn't matter if you just want to finish the mission and bounce

[ZeroX4]

45 minutes ago, Mc_Fatiy said:

been trying to do some veil, and i cam across orphix mission, sense no one like rail jack in the first place, becouse you can only do 1 mission then restart the game without some sort of glitch of bug that soft lock the game, orphix on veil are way to hard to do, finding people do this cost will cost you plat or a gun to there face, no one likes them, to hard to do, got max out gun and necro, still no damage, the game spawn in 3 orphix in 20 sec of entre the first yellow zone, how are you suppose too do this? stupid mode, remove from the game or nerf it, nothing to grind on them, dropps nothing good, 1 time mission that is just dumb. 

I hated orphix when i started doing it i liked it when i mastered it

There are so many tutorials on youtube there is no excuse for you to have such a big problem with it

Heck i bet even if you would try Q&A chat and ask for some tips you would fly trough orphix like a butterfly in no time

[(PSN)Unstar]

1 hour ago, Mc_Fatiy said:

no one like rail jack in the first place

1 hour ago, Mc_Fatiy said:

no one likes them

You seem to have mistaken yourself for everyone.  I recommend using more "I" statements when your are describing how you personally feel about content, I guarantee you will come across as more honest and thus more convincing.

 

[Zippidydoda]

You have to wonder what the heck DE is thinking.  All they had to do was copy the original warframe design for Railjack.

- Turn all these "MK I/II/II" weapons into level 0 guns you equip, level and forma.

- Add tons of status/elemental/crit/dmg gun mods that drop from railjack mobs.

- Add defense missions with endless scaling mobs to farm

- Profit?

That actually sounds like so much more fun than current railjack implementation is.  And it could literally be implemented this Monday if DE wanted.  Ugh

 

 

 

[0_The_F00l]

7 minutes ago, Zippidydoda said:

That actually sounds like so much more fun than current railjack implementation is.  And it could literally be implemented this Monday if DE wanted.  Ugh

Cool , so you are intricately aware of warframes spaghetti code and have knowledge of how easily DE could do anything. Must be nice to have so much information.

Too bad the rest of us are only going to be limited on opinions and possibility while you are clearly dealing with absolute certainty.

 

As to the OP,

Feels like they don't understand the core loop where they need to destroy the anchor points and then shoot the weak spot that opens up, for which they need a moderately modded mech and decent aim archgun to complete.

They should ask for assistance before they bash any game mode.

[(PSN)Madurai-Prime]

Newsflash: Your post is a rant that is personal to you. 

No one agrees with you unless they're are also venting.

[(PSN)goonie4good]

Classic “I don’t know how to do something so it sucks” thread. 

[B2-Banger]

Orphix is an Endless Railjack Mission Type.

Endless Railjack Missions have very little incentive to be played in a group.

Railjack in general has very little incentive to being played in a group, either the people needing to group up together are undergeared and contribute little so they are effectively more useless than the Railjack npc units or they have the gear and the npc railjack units. So Solo play is heavily incentivized. Not only that, having not heard of any changes to the Railjack Extraction system, there is no option to self extract in railjack. It extracts in the same method as exterminate or capture, if someone wants to leave, everyone leaves. This puts an element of failure into a mission, for people looking for specific loot rotations, as people farming for specific rotations are incapable of doing so if the weakest link in their squad wants to leave early, therefore to ensure a player's loot rotations in endless railjack the simplest and most effective method of ensuring loot rotations is to remove the weak links in your squad, your squad.

If you want to play Orphix with people, your best bet is hitting up your clan or in recruit chat looking for similar bodied individuals with interests that align with yours. If you are not able, or do not feel compelled to proceed down this avenue, then your option in seeking jolly cooperation, is hoping for a stray straggler (which is not recommended due to the prior issues associated with endless railjack) or playing solo and most probably solo.

It's not that noone plays railjack, the people who play railjack, don't play with other people. Because, Railjack in it's current iteration is a horrible, incorrigible mix of unoptimized bullS#&$ery, disabling people from actively enriching each other's play experience.

 

The trick to Orphix is using the Voidrig necramech, using it's 4, becoming a turret and blasting Arquebex into the Orphix's maw until it dies. If mobs do not die in Railjack missions then you likely need a set of gear improvements, from your base railjack's guns, to your load out, to your necramech or even the obtaining of a necramech to begin with. The base Necramech gun the Mausolon is also fairly capable of dealing with most of the early phases of Orphix.

[(PSN)Jacobivan]

There's something wrong with the single Orphix mission i tried in Railjack. I used to do max waves (34? Can't remember...) in Orphix Venom event, sometimes solo without problems. But when i started the Proxima sth mission (not specialised build, but Bonewidow i used previusly was the same. What happened was second Orphix spawned even before i got to first one, making me fail the mission at Orphix 3 or 4.

Might be the OP has some merit, even thou they seem a little whiney;-)

[(PSN)Lollybomb]

Just tried it myself, it's not impossible to solo, but they definitely seem to be spawning in faster, or taking control faster.  Did it with Voidrig, Mauslon, and primarily Guard Mode for the actual orphix.

[George_PPS]

4 hours ago, Mc_Fatiy said:

been trying to do some veil, and i cam across orphix mission, sense no one like rail jack in the first place, becouse you can only do 1 mission then restart the game without some sort of glitch of bug that soft lock the game, orphix on veil are way to hard to do, finding people do this cost will cost you plat or a gun to there face, no one likes them, to hard to do, got max out gun and necro, still no damage, the game spawn in 3 orphix in 20 sec of entre the first yellow zone, how are you suppose too do this? stupid mode, remove from the game or nerf it, nothing to grind on them, dropps nothing good, 1 time mission that is just dumb. 

If you don’t like the mode, just skip it. As for bugs, are you sure it’s not the issue of your PC? Remove yourself from that mode, not cancelling it just because you don’t like it. 

[Vaml77]

7 hours ago, Mc_Fatiy said:

been trying to do some veil, and i cam across orphix mission, sense no one like rail jack in the first place, becouse you can only do 1 mission then restart the game without some sort of glitch of bug that soft lock the game, orphix on veil are way to hard to do, finding people do this cost will cost you plat or a gun to there face, no one likes them, to hard to do, got max out gun and necro, still no damage, the game spawn in 3 orphix in 20 sec of entre the first yellow zone, how are you suppose too do this? stupid mode, remove from the game or nerf it, nothing to grind on them, dropps nothing good, 1 time mission that is just dumb. 

This event came at the end of last year with lavos and the weapon cedo. It looks like it was an experimental DE event...I personally didn't like it for a lot of reasons. It's extremely tiring and using the operator, warframe and necramech in tight aisles is quite cumbersome. But then came railjack corpus and I don't know why DE added this mission if no one liked it....if this event comes back I'll definitely ignore it.

[sunderthefirmament]

3 hours ago, (PSN)Lollybomb said:

Just tried it myself, it's not impossible to solo, but they definitely seem to be spawning in faster, or taking control faster.  Did it with Voidrig, Mauslon, and primarily Guard Mode for the actual orphix.

RJ Orphix is way, way faster than the Orphix Venom event missions.

[(PSN)robotwars7]

9 hours ago, Mc_Fatiy said:

sense no one like rail jack in the first place, becouse you can only do 1 mission then restart the game without some sort of glitch of bug that soft lock the game,

strange, I've done multiple missions in railjack back-to-back with no issues. is this in a group or solo?

9 hours ago, Mc_Fatiy said:

orphix on veil are way to hard to do,

not really, not if you invest in your Mech. Forma it 5 times to get it to 40, put on a full complement of mods, and try Necramech Rage and Necramech repair. with these mods, the Voidrig - squishier of the two mechs mind you - becomes basically unkillable unless you get hit by some of the most powerful attacks in the game. I would have to stand still for ages doing nothing before even Veil Void Storm enemies can genuinely destroy my Voidrig. and of course, you have the easily recastable Storm Shroud and the most powerful ranged weapon in the game to back you up too.

9 hours ago, Mc_Fatiy said:

finding people do this cost will cost you plat or a gun to there face,

there are people out there who'd be willing to help, they just aren't many. are you in an active clan? if not, maybe you could try and find one willing to help you in recruit chat.

[RichardKam]

tl;dr: if you do not own a necramech, you are not welcomed to do orphix.

Orphix is a weird game mode because it is highly dependent on necramech, something you either need to buy with plat, or farm from the very specific isolation vault on deimos.

No other game mode in the entire Warframe has such specific requirement. The only exception is probably eidolon because you need to go out of your usual game play to farm quill standing to get amp. For orphix, those necramechs laying around are not modded so they won't get you too far into the mission. Probably *just* enough to complete the mission and let you extract in low tier mission. 

For high level Orphix or 20+ wave, you need to go to isolation vault, get the necramech parts, build it and upgrade it together with archgun. Otherwise, your best chance is to get carried.

[(PSN)thowed]

Big old Orphix ahead!

[Elfezen]

not sure what is going on anymore, i tried eratus orphix with 8 different squads (full group) in matchmaking all of them had maxed level 30 warframes and prime material, and they all completely failed at the orphix part, and always at the second orphix, these missions are obviously not designed in the way it was intended, especially the eratus mission

[(XBOX)C11H22O11]

8 minutes ago, Elfezen said:

not sure what is going on anymore, i tried eratus orphix with 8 different squads (full group) in matchmaking all of them had maxed level 30 warframes and prime material, and they all completely failed at the orphix part, and always at the second orphix, these missions are obviously not designed in the way it was intended, especially the eratus mission

They might have maxed prime Warframes but their necramechs and archguns can be terrible or they don't understand the mode

[RichardKam]

12小时前 , (XBOX)C11H22O11 说:

They might have maxed prime Warframes but their necramechs and archguns can be terrible or they don't understand the mode

From what I know, RJ Orphix scaling is almost broken. Orphix spawn way too fast (much faster than the event) even if you have a good mech and archguns. The only way to do that is to have a good pre-made squad that know what they are doing and have a really good division of labor, like each member stationed at A/B/C and can deal the entire Orphix on their own.

Focus rework may rectify some of the problems. But considering void sling is slower than void dash, I believe RJ Orphix is still unplayable.