Excalibur Umbra Exalted Blade cancelled by operator mode

[Liv.Somik]

Right now if you go into operator mode and return, you have to recast exalted blade every time, it's extremely annoying and unavoidable. Please make it so that returning from operator mode auto recast exalted blade. 

[sunderthefirmament]

9 minutes ago, Liv.Somik said:

Right now if you go into operator mode and return, you have to recast exalted blade every time, it's extremely annoying and unavoidable. Please make it so that returning from operator mode auto recast exalted blade. 

It's been like this for as long as I can remember.  I do agree that it should be changed, though.

[(XBOX)Rez090]

23 minutes ago, Liv.Somik said:

Right now if you go into operator mode and return, you have to recast exalted blade every time, it's extremely annoying and unavoidable. Please make it so that returning from operator mode auto recast exalted blade. 

So you want Umbra to waste your energy? Because that would have to be a balancing factor, the blade would have to drain your energy.

[(NSW)warfare3376]

its not just exalted blade, any ability with a duration including the radial javelin aug gets reset when u go to operator mode forcing u to recast every  time to do so and honestly should be changed

[Birdframe_Prime]

Short answer: We know. It's likely never going to get fixed.

Long answer: It has to do with 'Spectre' AI control. This is a lot more clever than the basic AI in the game, and has a lot more decision making because of its added resources and so on.

Spectres have an Energy Pool like ours, but it's actually got a massive auto-regen function that allows them to cast abilities pretty much whenever their AI determines they should.

However there is a bias. The abilities scale on a priority, varying the Crowd Control and Damage, and a lot of the different frames will absolutely not use 'Drain' abilities as this interrupts their energy regen, which they need to recast other abilities that are higher priority. So Umbra, when on his own, will not prioritise Exalted Blade at all, he will prioritise Howl, Javelin and Slash Dash because they're quick-cast and have a definitive use that the AI can account for.

There is also the programming problem of how Umbra works: When you go into Operator mode, your Warframe model de-spawns and the new model spawns in. For all warframes, not just Umbra. It puts your normal model away into a null location, then brings in the invulnerable model that stands there waiting for you, then puts that away when you leave Operator mode and brings back your regular model. Umbra is a Spectre, it spawns in his AI version when you go into Operator mode instead of the stock, standing invulnerable one.

Now I don't know if you've noticed, but when you spawn in anywhere, like after a fall off a cliff, you don't have any abilities running either. So Umbra is not spawning the model you were using, which has EB running, it's spawning in a different model that has no abilities running. The animation of him 'turning off' EB is literally because they match the spectre model to your model before it spawns in for consistency. The ability isn't actually running, so it looks like it's turning EB off every time.

So, the tl;dr of that one is this:

The ability isn't running when you go into operator mode and summon the AI controlled version, it just looks like it is, and so looks like it turns it off. Then while the AI version is here, it prioritises casting the other abilities over casting the ability that drains energy and prevents regen.

That's going to take a while to overcome, and currently DE has much, much larger goals to achieve. Like bringing out the content they promised us they'd bring out.

[sunderthefirmament]

7 hours ago, (XBOX)Rez090 said:

So you want Umbra to waste your energy? Because that would have to be a balancing factor, the blade would have to drain your energy.

It is already wasting our energy.  Recasting Exalted Blade isn't free.

[Kaggelos]

Aaaaand that's why I removed his 4 and added Airburst! Most fun i've had in ages with Umbra.

[Birdframe_Prime]

4 hours ago, Kaggelos said:

Aaaaand that's why I removed his 4 and added Airburst! Most fun i've had in ages with Umbra.

As a Zephyr player, I'm proud of you... but I'm not so sure that you needed to, because he has Howl for CC anyway, and you could probably go for a better ability for increasing other functions, like Xata's Whisper for interesting damage, or Pillage for that defense-strip-plus-survivability function... Heck, even putting on Elemental Ward would be good for Excal.

There's an argument for Airburst Rounds, buuuuut... still... I do find that weird.

[Kaggelos]

17 minutes ago, Birdframe_Prime said:

As a Zephyr player, I'm proud of you... but I'm not so sure that you needed to, because he has Howl for CC anyway, and you could probably go for a better ability for increasing other functions, like Xata's Whisper for interesting damage, or Pillage for that defense-strip-plus-survivability function... Heck, even putting on Elemental Ward would be good for Excal.

There's an argument for Airburst Rounds, buuuuut... still... I do find that weird.

Haha yeah, true. my line of thinking was that i suk all enemies in a single point, radial javelin augment to increase melee dmg, and them with my skiajati boom! profit! His 1 is also an ability i despise, but oh well...