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(PSN)Reaper330011

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Berzerkules

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True but he’s not USELESS.

Never said he was. I've taken him solo SP to like lvl 4k, it just takes a lot more effort than most frames.
 

He's near top of the list of frames that need some help and not just adjusting a few numbers here and there. Every ability needs major tweaks. 

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(XBOX)CaligulaTwily

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His theme is O K in my opinion, I've found a decent fashion that I like for the Prime. Base Hydroid ugly AF and avoided playing because couldn't find decent fashion that I liked. 

 

What's the passive? Don't remember 

His 1 is kinda cool imo, looks cool. Last time I remember using it tho, was like, really weak. Tho was years ago, mighta been, fixed or something since then. 

The puddle is lame. 

The rush is also lame, but gets points for comboing with puddle for mobility (I think?) Didn't like the rush on Revenant or Lavos either. Lavos has the best rush of the 3 tho, it actually looks cool with the crystal trail, and canceling it with jumping and releasing all vials is cool too. 0 Energy + 5 second cool down for the win

Tentacles are cool, but I also remember them just, whipping enemies around for a long time without really killing them. But that was also years ago.

 

Just O K fashion, two abilities that look cool, but 4 abilities with meh effects

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2 hours ago, Berzerkules said:

His passive is actually kinda cool if you get a little creative. 

Use Exodia hunt Dokrham to pull enemies in on ground slam and grab them with tentacle. Every single heavy blade stance has ground slams in their combos so it procs fairly often. 

Hydroid doesn't have much to work with so you have to make the best out of every little thing he has. 

about the 60% chance 120¨that's wut he need

 

60% chance to spawn 1 tentacle on slam atack  -_-  not like we can really spam slam atack

 

and the tentacle itself , without pillefring swarm that should be innated ; his 4 is just a weird CC

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I don't think he is hated , 

He is mostly ignored.

I love using him (ARR ) but his abilities are defintely outdated as compared to some of the newer frames that can do much more with a lot less effort and much more effectively to boot.

Neither does he specialise in any one thing to be considered a specific type of frame (even with augments).

Nor does he do multiple things adequately well to be considered versatile.

And it is rather difficult to say how exactly to change him , cause even though he looks good on paper , in practice it's rather mediocre.

Defintely the frame in the greatest need for a rework.

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4 hours ago, (NSW)AegisFifi said:

Oberon's 4th is very usefull in Steel Path missions, because, with it's 2nd, it strips armor permanently and it is based on BASE ARMOR, not Actual armor, wich is excellent. It's the only armor stripping ability in the game that works like that.

fck steel path.. dont care about that, i just love the 4th skill

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(PSN)Reaper330011

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2 minutes ago, Tesseract7777 said:

Hate would be like... the complaints about old Ember wof and stuff.

Hydroid is (by overall consensus) most due for a touchup. 

But he is far from hated. I think OP is confusing "desire to see meaningfully reworked" with "hatred". 

I couldn’t confuse the two.

 

perhaps I used the wrong word?

i mean if I asked a random person on their opinion on hydron they either say “I don’t know, too lazy to play him” or “He’s a absolute trash, don’t get him. Feed to helminth”

 

HATE would be people with limbo who are too lazy to just roll and get out of the rift.

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9 minutes ago, 0_The_F00l said:

I don't think he is hated , 

He is mostly ignored.

I love using him (ARR ) but his abilities are defintely outdated as compared to some of the newer frames that can do much more with a lot less effort and much more effectively to boot.

Neither does he specialise in any one thing to be considered a specific type of frame (even with augments).

Nor does he do multiple things adequately well to be considered versatile.

And it is rather difficult to say how exactly to change him , cause even though he looks good on paper , in practice it's rather mediocre.

Defintely the frame in the greatest need for a rework.

I really beg DE to rework.

 

Otherwise I’m just gonna put insane duration range and strength on him. 400+

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Hydroid is just overall lacking. He has extremely slow animations, even with natural talent, none of them deal considerable damage either, even though they should given their cast times. His #4 just spreads things out and syncs poorly with increased range, since that leads to it spreading things out even more because it has a larger area to spawn tentacles in.

Atm I'd even go as far as saying that he is probably the worst frame of them all. Even as a loot frame with 100% pilfer chance I'd say he lacks compared to both Khora and Nekros since he is limited to 1 enemy per tentacle and restricted to only 1 instance of the skill active. This means that a Nekros with a heavy AoE gun will gain more over time since he will kill and desecrate more over time. Just as Khora can have multiple domes out and she has a far higher kill rate.

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25 minutes ago, (PSN)Reaper330011 said:
1 hour ago, Invisibleaxeman said:

He's my go to when I need to kill a Silver Grove spectre.

Why?

He can Force The Spectre to Drop an Additional Mod if it's touching one Of The Tentacles when it Dies.... After its Dead The Spectre's Corpse can be looted again by Either Chesa's Retrieve or Nekros' Desecrate but not both....

 

17 minutes ago, Tesseract7777 said:

Tip, if you hit the quote button multiple times before hitting reply, you can multiquote several people in the same post and keep your thread cleaner, just FYI. 

Apparently people don't like it when I do that 🤔.... Or maybe they just don't like me.... But its within the The Rules so The Multi Quote Jutsu shall continue !!! 😈

3 minutes ago, (PSN)Reaper330011 said:

Send me link to the meme?

I don't know if a link exists... I only know about the meme from hearing about it 😮.... 

 

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2 hours ago, (PSN)Reaper330011 said:

I never listen to tier systems…
i have chroma prime, Nekros prime, nidus prime, Sevagoth, limbo, hydroid, Oberon, rhino, Harrow, etc. I have quite a lot Rn.

 

excuse my lack of knowledge for terminology but wdym meta?

 

"Meta" as so many words in gaming are incorrectly used to describe something. Meta is a greek prefix. In modern usage meta is used as a prefix to describe a governing factor. Such as metadata meaning data that is about data. In computing this was popularized and I can only surmize that's where this usage in gaming came from. Metadata for instance is a definition of data. For instance a database that has data in it such as name, address, country etc. The meta data defines this data such as what type of data it is like text or numerical information (in layman terms).

In gaming meta is no longer a prefix and is a stand alone word that means generally the most optimal way of playing. Almost every online game has a meta. Used in competitive games more often like League of Legends where meta defines which champions, items, build order and tactics are best. Not following said meta can piss other players off because they believe it will lower their win chance.

In Warframe meta is only used for optimal play in terms of clear speed and efficiency. Since there is no competitive part as the core of the game is PvE. If you value these things then meta can be interesting to look at. As long as you keep in mind it's only that.

It's important to note that in gaming meta is always defined by players and it shifts as time goes on and changes are made to the game.

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Il y a 4 heures, Dauggie a dit :

fck steel path.. dont care about that, i just love the 4th skill

Now, you have more reasons to love it : it works nice on Steel Path. And, please, don't be rude, especially beacause I agreed with you on me post about Oberon.

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Il y a 6 heures, (PSN)Reaper330011 a dit :

Up to level 80 (for me) he can destroy.

above that he struggles.

We can use Hydroid to kill enemies harder than those. The point is that his gameplay changes : you won't need power strength, just Range, efficiency and some duration. In other words, Hydroid's CC will be more interesting on high level missions and also Corroding Barrage and Tidal Impunity will be more interesting. You'll must have some AoE weapons to kill mobs trapped on tentacles fast (Exodia Contagion, Bramma, Zarr...). It has a special synergy with Zenurik's Void Singularity ans Magus Anomaly, which can pull enemies near you to be easily trapped on Undertow.

Primed Sure Footed recommended, but not necessary.

I've made a short gameplay video on Hydroid's on Steel Path (base level enemies : lvl ~140) to show how he can deal with it :

 

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11 hours ago, Drachnyn said:

His abilities are slow and clunky, his farming potential was stolen by khora who also kills the enemies she CC's much easier and his extra drop doesnt even stack with khora's. There really isnt much to like about him other than the pirate theme. Invincibility is useless if it makes it so you basically cannot act.

Don't forget that his Passive literally makes no sense with how you want to play Hydroid, and that it's completely useless.

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