(PSN)Reaper330011 Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 The fourth ability is a bit unintelligible, I understand the element combinations but how do I build and use him? i have no idea how to mod him…. i don’t understand what his 2 and 4 does… how on earth do I use him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkah_mvet Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 10 minutes ago, (PSN)Reaper330011 said: Takes way too long to kill in sp. With that info and loop, I usually top the kills in SP as well. Spreading the procs works even better in SP than elsewhere. It helps to learn the procs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Reaper330011 Posted March 3, 2022 Author Share Posted March 3, 2022 15 minutes ago, SneakyErvin said: Yep was fixed in the patch that limited the number of vials that can be active. 8 hours ago, ShadoUrufu said: My personal take on this, and I haven't read the other posts yet, is that You would combine the 2 with any elements you want, then dash into a group of enemies. Then you can either: A) Quickly combine more element and apply them via 1, which may kill some enemies OR B) Let loose on the nuke in the middle of the pack, then immediately follow up with his 3 into the nearest pack of survivors. this thread is old… anyway I figured out how to use him like 3 days after making this thread. Still, thanks for everybody’s replies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SneakyErvin Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 7 hours ago, quxier said: Little bit necroposting but I want to let you know that Vial rush (at least subsumed) won't turn off speed. The same as Hydroid's (that's what someone said). Yep was fixed in the patch that limited the number of vials that can be active. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quxier Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 On 2021-10-17 at 7:42 PM, SneakyErvin said: My suggestion for Lavos is to replace his 2 with Roar, Xata's Whisper or something, unless you really love to have a mobility skill that constantly turns off auto-run. Little bit necroposting but I want to let you know that Vial rush (at least subsumed) won't turn off speed. The same as Hydroid's (that's what someone said). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadoUrufu Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 On 2021-10-17 at 4:48 AM, (PSN)Reaper330011 said: Just solo’d a 45 wave hydron with him. My favorites are his 2 and 4.. I use corrosive and viral most of the time. 1. Can eliminate multiple enemies and heals lavos. 2. Does some really satisfying status damage and aoe damage. 3. Very useful. Mostly utility but has some damage too. 4. An absolute nuke. Fire+Viral= Kill everything. so how exactly would you synergise his abilities? Also how do you mod lavos? My personal take on this, and I haven't read the other posts yet, is that You would combine the 2 with any elements you want, then dash into a group of enemies. Then you can either: A) Quickly combine more element and apply them via 1, which may kill some enemies OR B) Let loose on the nuke in the middle of the pack, then immediately follow up with his 3 into the nearest pack of survivors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoneWolf9989 Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 Triburos has a decent video on him, It goes into his Strengths and his biggest weaknesses. Namely one, but I'll leave it to him to explain: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Claudija Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 2 hours ago, Fallen77 said: Yes it do Well, at least it did a month ago or so when I was doing nw. Worked for all elements and, as much as I can remember, for all his abilities (was just completing it with a few infused 4, didn't pay much attention to the rest) ahh ty for that as when I last played him around his launch, it didn't count :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fallen77 Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 Le 17/10/2021 à 17:57, (PSN)Claudija a dit : But do his statuses count towards NW now? I mean he'd be ideal for those "kill 150 enemies with Corrosive damage" types but last time I took him his Rad combination was not counting towards that tally Yes it do Well, at least it did a month ago or so when I was doing nw. Worked for all elements and, as much as I can remember, for all his abilities (was just completing it with a few infused 4, didn't pay much attention to the rest) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkah_mvet Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 12 hours ago, (PSN)Reaper330011 said: Ooooo what build do you use? From overframe.gg, I think it's the top rated build, the mecha build. It requires a dog-type companion for ultimate procs, I went pharaoh predasite because it spreads even more procs I think. And cedo is pretty essential too. Lavos loves procs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keiyadan Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 well i only use lavos for railjack basicly he is my railjack loadout but in normal mission i have no use for him at the moment and the build i basicly survivalbility since nothing else is needed there for my use of him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SneakyErvin Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 My suggestion for Lavos is to replace his 2 with Roar, Xata's Whisper or something, unless you really love to have a mobility skill that constantly turns off auto-run. After that invest in strength, range and umbra mods while keeping duration at 100% (since duration impact status duration on Lavos, so sub 100% is a big no). Dont care about efficiency, since as pointed out earlier in the thread, you dont need it. So you can easily get great strength and also get really high range at the same time with overextended etc. Mine is pretty much Umbra, Umbra, Umbra, Blind Rage, Overextended, Stretch, Augur Reach and Adaptation with Growing Power and Primed Sure Footed. The massive range helps alot with CD reduction from #3 since the radius of the skill becomes quite large, so less worry about throwing it in the right direction in dense places like Steel Path survival. And even with overextended you still end up with decent strength at near 250% when GP is up. And if you go with Roar you gain a nice damage boost aswell to everything you do. Outside of that I pretty much just alternate between pure fire branding or gas on his skills. Versus corpus just use Toxin with his #4. Use a Panzer with him for free viral and an extra element that scales your #4. I would only suggest using Cedo on him if you really wanna gimmick him up. He is better off with an AoE gun even though Cedo stacks statuses. You will still need to shoot or melee when your #4 is on CD. And there are few things in the game that survive his #4 as it is, unless you plan on running really long endless runs. 1 hour ago, (PSN)Claudija said: But do his statuses count towards NW now? I mean he'd be ideal for those "kill 150 enemies with Corrosive damage" types but last time I took him his Rad combination was not counting towards that tally Yup they do. You just need the initial hit to kill if you use rad/corrosive/cold/magnetic/viral, it the innate DoT effect of his 1, 3 or 4 kills the target it wont count. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0_The_F00l Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 23 minutes ago, (PSN)Claudija said: But do his statuses count towards NW now? I mean he'd be ideal for those "kill 150 enemies with Corrosive damage" types but last time I took him his Rad combination was not counting towards that tally I am not sure , it think it does but it may not be the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Claudija Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 4 hours ago, 0_The_F00l said: I play him with neutral duration , negative efficiency (you really don't need efficiency) , moderate range and high strength. All three umbral mods, if you can manage it , makes him extremely durable. He can utilise every element in the game except void (for which you have your kiddo) by holding the respective ability buttons. He can heal himself , give soft CC depending on which elements you use on your abilities (electric and cold can keep enemies dancing the slo dance) , support by converting all ammo to universal ammo and any health/ energy orbs to universal orbs (pairs well with Synth deconstruct) which grants him status immunity. And of course his 4 gives a lot of damage on primed enemies in a very large area. And thanks to his other gimmick you don't even need energy , just cooldown which in my opinion are fair enough for what they do and can always be reduced with his 3. It does take some getting used to though. But do his statuses count towards NW now? I mean he'd be ideal for those "kill 150 enemies with Corrosive damage" types but last time I took him his Rad combination was not counting towards that tally Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Reaper330011 Posted October 17, 2021 Author Share Posted October 17, 2021 5 minutes ago, mkah_mvet said: With that info and loop, I usually top the kills in SP as well. Spreading the procs works even better in SP than elsewhere. It helps to learn the procs. Ooooo what build do you use? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Reaper330011 Posted October 17, 2021 Author Share Posted October 17, 2021 18 minutes ago, mkah_mvet said: I'm using a mecha build from overframe. Pretty much been maining him. You have to learn the effects of all the elements so you can pick which ones to use when. It works best if you consider each ability as different ways to spread procs. You can switch the hold/tap for his abilities in the menus, and imo, doing so is essential for Lavos. My play loop, I look for a cluster of enemies to drop a 4 bomb. I look for another cluster and cast 3 (it's a directional cast) to recharge my 4. I sprinkle some 2 whenever I have a moment and think it'll do some good (2 is interruptible by jumping out of it, I almost never waste the time going the full distance.) I don't use his 1 because I have lots of ways managing my health and that's the most cumbersome of them. When I have all the enemies all loaded up with procs, I use my cedo's alt fire to clear out what the procs didn't, and what that doesn't kill will now be loaded with so many procs it's easy to eliminate however I feel like it. My results, I usually top the kills in squads, frequently by a decent margin, though I will very occasionally get out performed by some of the more serious nukes built and used well. Spread the procs. Takes way too long to kill in sp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkah_mvet Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 I'm using a mecha build from overframe. Pretty much been maining him. You have to learn the effects of all the elements so you can pick which ones to use when. It works best if you consider each ability as different ways to spread procs. You can switch the hold/tap for his abilities in the menus, and imo, doing so is essential for Lavos. My play loop, I look for a cluster of enemies to drop a 4 bomb. I look for another cluster and cast 3 (it's a directional cast) to recharge my 4. I sprinkle some 2 whenever I have a moment and think it'll do some good (2 is interruptible by jumping out of it, I almost never waste the time going the full distance.) I don't use his 1 because I have lots of ways managing my health and that's the most cumbersome of them. When I have all the enemies all loaded up with procs, I use my cedo's alt fire to clear out what the procs didn't, and what that doesn't kill will now be loaded with so many procs it's easy to eliminate however I feel like it. My results, I usually top the kills in squads, frequently by a decent margin, though I will very occasionally get out performed by some of the more serious nukes built and used well. Spread the procs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0_The_F00l Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 I play him with neutral duration , negative efficiency (you really don't need efficiency) , moderate range and high strength. All three umbral mods, if you can manage it , makes him extremely durable. He can utilise every element in the game except void (for which you have your kiddo) by holding the respective ability buttons. He can heal himself , give soft CC depending on which elements you use on your abilities (electric and cold can keep enemies dancing the slo dance) , support by converting all ammo to universal ammo and any health/ energy orbs to universal orbs (pairs well with Synth deconstruct) which grants him status immunity. And of course his 4 gives a lot of damage on primed enemies in a very large area. And thanks to his other gimmick you don't even need energy , just cooldown which in my opinion are fair enough for what they do and can always be reduced with his 3. It does take some getting used to though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RazerXPrime Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 I play him like a noob. Built him for armor and health with power and a little bit of range. I have a simple rotation of skills mainly using his 3 and 4. I infuse 1 and 2 into 4 (viral+heat), then 1+2 or 4 into 3 (viral or heat+electric), 1+2 or 4 into 3 and repeat. His 4 is pretty good at wiping an entire map of enemies quickly. Really good vs infested, but also other enemies at decently high level. If there's a +300% power arbitration then that's fun too. 😎 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leqesai Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 7 minutes ago, (PSN)Reaper330011 said: Just solo’d a 45 wave hydron with him. My favorites are his 2 and 4.. I use corrosive and viral most of the time. 1. Can eliminate multiple enemies and heals lavos. 2. Does some really satisfying status damage and aoe damage. 3. Very useful. Mostly utility but has some damage too. 4. An absolute nuke. Fire+Viral= Kill everything. so how exactly would you synergise his abilities? Also how do you mod lavos? Start by watching the guide video someone shared with you on this thread. It demonstrates how to use the kit and gives build advice... Also, go to overframe and check out some builds to give inspiration. Lavos is pretty easy to build IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Reaper330011 Posted October 17, 2021 Author Share Posted October 17, 2021 Just solo’d a 45 wave hydron with him. My favorites are his 2 and 4.. I use corrosive and viral most of the time. 1. Can eliminate multiple enemies and heals lavos. 2. Does some really satisfying status damage and aoe damage. 3. Very useful. Mostly utility but has some damage too. 4. An absolute nuke. Fire+Viral= Kill everything. so how exactly would you synergise his abilities? Also how do you mod lavos? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)slightconfuzzled Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 There are some Warframes I think are intuitive and easy to pick up and, maybe not master, but you get a good general overview of abilities and then you just need to practice. Lavos... is not one of those. At least he wasn't to me. Took a while before I really started to appreciate Lavos (the infuse elements can be a bit annoying on PS4 controller, my buttons are a bit sensitive) Your abilities have innate elements, but you can also infuse them with additional elements, including those that can be combined. As for modding, in my opinion, prioritise range first and strength. Duration is important in the sense, don't go into negative duration, duration affects your statuses inflicted. I use the 2 to spread status but mainly mobility, getting around faster, escaping bad situations if necessary. It does do damage, but not a large amount. 4 is a slow nuke, that is a bit finicky, because of its horizontal nature. I use to hate this ability, because I would find its strict horizontal nature, really limiting in practicality in Warframe, with so many uneven surfaces, stairs, slopes, levels, etc but then when I realised/understood it does more damage per status on an enemy, and got better and making sure to synergise it with the other abilities and weapons, I started to notice it can actually be really powerful, and maybe too powerful if say it was a spherical ability. So don't use the 4 by itself, spread a few statuses around (like say the alt fire with Cedo) or your 2 or 3, then use the 4 to kill everything affected. Don't sleep on his passive either, picking up energy orbs gives you 10's of status immunity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leqesai Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 22 minutes ago, (PSN)Reaper330011 said: Yes, I understand that. I just don’t understand what the second and fourth ability does. Second ability is a mobility tool that drops AOE damage + status procs. Fourth ability is an AOE nuke that multiplies damage dealt based on the number of status procs on an enemy The wiki is a comprehensive source of information if you want to get in-depth explanations https://warframe.fandom.com/wiki/Lavos#Abilities_ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Reaper330011 Posted October 17, 2021 Author Share Posted October 17, 2021 15 minutes ago, McCIoud said: Hold an ability to infuse that element into your next cast (hold 2 of them to combine the elements) Yes, I understand that. I just don’t understand what the second and fourth ability does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCIoud Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 1: whip to heal, hold for toxin 2: Dash around dropping bombs, hold for cold 3: cast to convert ammo and energy/health orbs to universal and reduce cooldowns for each enemy hit, hold for electric 4: AoE elemental killing ability that has condition overload built in, hold for heat Hold an ability to infuse that element into your next cast (hold 2 of them to combine the elements) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jemmies Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 I don't main Lavos either. When I was leveling Lavos, I simply watched a video and tried to mimic what I saw just to get through the level grind. Hope this helps. It helped me at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The fourth ability is a bit unintelligible, I understand the element combinations but how do I build and use him?
i have no idea how to mod him….
i don’t understand what his 2 and 4 does…
how on earth do I use him?
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