Prime Resurgence Dev Workshop & FAQ

[Circle_of_Psi]

5 hours ago, SephirothWS said:

Someone had to spend money for that tradable platinum you have...

I have to wonder tho...

Who's the original person to buy plat? 🤔

 

 

39 minutes ago, Hokkis31 said:

Ayayay

Any Jojo fans? No, just me? Darn

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUhVCoTsBaM

You mean this?

[(PSN)Flatulent_Draco]

6 minutes ago, (NSW)RATHURUE said:

That logic is like saying you need to pay delivery service to be able to pick the strawberry growing in your own porch.

Twitch Prime is a separate service from Warframe. Therefore whatever you paid for the Twitch service does NOT mean the item you obtained via Twitch was 'behind paywall' in Warframe. More like it's a free bonus for subscribing to Twitch, that bleeds to Warframe.  

So it's not 'paid item' at all. Heck, Bungie weapon skins are FREE as collaboration, but DE decided they gonna sell those as 'pack' to get money.

I'd like the twitch prime stuff to be bought with regular aya too but with how DE has been going 'bout their business they seem to be joining the ranks of certain money hungry companies.

[Numerikuu]

22 minutes ago, (XBOX)C11H22O11 said:

I don't understand the thought of thinking regal Aya should be free or tradable, it's clearly the substitute of the vault packs which have always costed real cash. I understand that the price is probably too high, if people are not buying DE will definitely lower it. 

Same, though tbh those voices are in the minority. The majority of the Warframe community who've played long enough understand and agree that prime accessories should remain purchasable only.

The main consensus seems to be the disdain for the price increase, loss of value, and clearly exploitative setup of the packs/raya amounts. The latter is no different to what mobile/crappy f2ps do, and tbh we expected better of DE in that regard.

As for the free route with Aya and relics, I think they did good there. It's revived the open worlds to a degree and got people going back to them to do bounties. Before then there was no reason to, other than the occasional Nightwave weekly.

[(XBOX)Demiwolf0606]

Some people are commenting that raya isn't a bad thing and it shouldn't be able to be obtained in high ranking bounties.  I believe this is fair because veterans and midplayers(myself) would be able to get this stuff.  And newer players that wouldn't like to spend all their money could run bounties with us and get regal aya

[SneakyErvin]

4 minutes ago, Numerikuu said:

Same, though tbh those voices are in the minority. The majority of the Warframe community who've played long enough understand and agree that prime accessories should remain purchasable only.

The main consensus seems to be the disdain for the price increase, loss of value, and clearly exploitative setup of the packs/raya amounts. The latter is no different to what mobile/crappy f2ps do, and tbh we expected better of DE in that regard.

How is it exploitive though? They removed the plat, sure, that sucks for some. But it also opened up the selective purchase process, which makes it less "exploitive" than the old access system since we arent forced to pick up cowdung on our way to the candy store.

2 minutes ago, (XBOX)Demiwolf0606 said:

Some people are commenting that raya isn't a bad thing and it shouldn't be able to be obtained in high ranking bounties.  I believe this is fair because veterans and midplayers(myself) would be able to get this stuff.  And newer players that wouldn't like to spend all their money could run bounties with us and get regal aya

Not everything in a game needs to be free. This is DE's guaranteed revenue stream along with platinum. Though platinum is less of a guarantee since it can circulate forever in the game and change hands.

[Genitive]

32 minutes ago, SparklesnChaos said:

Yes, because pretending that there are no problems, fixes all the problems. <insert mother of all eye rolls here>

Well, if enough people decide not to buy the new currency it will send DE a clear message that players are not happy with the pricing and that there is, in fact, a problem.

[Numerikuu]

Just now, SneakyErvin said:

How is it exploitive though? They removed the plat, sure, that sucks for some. But it also opened up the selective purchase process, which makes it less "exploitive" than the old access system since we arent forced to pick up cowdung on our way to the candy store.

Personally, the selectiveness aspect I really like and was actually looking forward to... until I saw the prices/amounts of Raya, compared to the long term pricing of Prime Access.

The pricing and amounts of packs is 100% marketing exploitation and the same grimy tactics other f2ps/mobile games pull. Want the full amount of accessories a Prime Access would previously give you? Oh, I'm sorry, you'll have to purchase two packs of Raya--thus spending more than a Prime Access--to get 75% of what Prime Access would give you. Throw on top some good ol' psychological manipulation in regards to 'bigger packs--better value!' (spoilers: it's not and you're being tricked) and yeah.

TLDR you are literally spending more, to get less. DE be Whaling.

[(XBOX)toughdragon17]

3 hours ago, (XBOX)Shodian said:

If you don't like it you don't have to buy or play it. ;)

Na if you dont like it let yourself be heard

the only thing this person got right is do not buy regal aya 

You should still try and get some bounty aya to get relics or that prime ship decoration look just don't get hekald out of your money by buying regal aya since you'll be paying more for less 

[SephirothWS]

18 minutes ago, SneakyErvin said:

Though platinum is less of a guarantee since it can circulate forever in the game and change hands.

Platinum can only be obtained by SOMEONE initially making the purchase. Try again. Yes, its tradable, but SOMEONE has purchased it to put it in to circulation amongst players.

[(XBOX)Demiwolf0606]

Ooooo  Another one Numerikuu. "Hey this is DE we have an event going on, want to participate.  Well I'm sorry but you have to pay $20 or more to participate"

[SneakyErvin]

1 minute ago, SephirothWS said:

Platinum can only be obtained by SOMEONE initially making the purchase. Try again. Yes, its tradable, but SOMEONE has purchased it to put it in the market.

And I said it didnt require someone buying it? Maybe try and get the context of it.

 

[(XBOX)Demiwolf0606]

I was getting all hyped up for days when I heard about the Prime resurgence.  I was saying,"Yes, finally I can get Volt and Hydroid Primes."  Then I saw the prices of raya and I got pissed.  I began to start grinding more than I ever do trying to be able to get these.  But apparently to get them you have to spend regal aya, and guess what.  That's right, it 20 #*!%ing dollars for three raya.  So, me and a few members in my alliance have decided to get the community to just not buy raya.  If only a small percentage of players are buying raya, DE will notice this and lower the prices or even make it a rare drop in bounties and missions.  So help us and stop buying raya

Demiwolf0606-Warlord of the Wolves of the guard

[ZeroX4]

1 hour ago, Vorpal_Ocelot said:

Hey, maybe the new war update will be awesome and its right around the bend.

Like i said nothing wrong in having expectations we all do have them but then we are the ones to blame

In New War case i think fault will be on both sides cause we are told it will be biggest update ever and guess what most players understand by that

Most of us believe it will be somehow revolutionary update which will change warframe upside down
I bet it will be just large update with a lot of stuff but nothing "ultra amazing"

 

[SneakyErvin]

13 minutes ago, Numerikuu said:

Personally, the selectiveness aspect I really like and was actually looking forward to... until I saw the prices/amounts of Raya, compared to the long term pricing of Prime Access.

The pricing and amounts of packs is 100% marketing exploitation and the same grimy tactics other f2ps/mobile games pull. Want the full amount of accessories a Prime Access would previously give you? Oh, I'm sorry, you'll have to purchase two packs of Raya--thus spending more than a Prime Access--to get 75% of what Prime Access would give you. Throw on top some good ol' psychological manipulation in regards to 'bigger packs--better value!' (spoilers: it's not and you're being tricked) and yeah.

TLDR you are literally spending more, to get less. DE be Whaling.

No you dont. The thing you do not get is the plat, the rest is exactly the same.

$20 buys you the two accessories that were available in the $20 accessories packs previously.

$20 = 3 Raya. Accessories cost 2 and 1 Raya which = 3 Raya.

[(XBOX)toughdragon17]

There's literally 1350 replies on this thread and de still isn't listening they must really not care about there fans feedback or things the comunitys has to say 

[(XBOX)Demiwolf0606]

I feel like this new update is going to cause a ton of players to leave the game because of the fact that this update is rigged.

[SneakyErvin]

1 minute ago, (XBOX)toughdragon17 said:

There's literally 1350 replies on this thread and de still isn't listening they must really not care about there fans feedback or things the comunitys has to say 

Except they've already acknowledged it and answered.

Just now, (XBOX)Demiwolf0606 said:

I feel like this new update is going to cause a ton of players to leave the game because of the fact that this update is rigged.

Rigged how? We lost the platinum, everything else is the same as it has been for the last couple of years.

[Oreades]

Regal Aya is fine, there might be some room for quibbling over price points but eh it serves it's purpose. Letting people buy the cosmetics as well as sidestep the grind if they see fit. 

 

The 600lb gorilla in the room is the miserable drop rates on normal Aya. Where the one place in the game where you can theoretically get a half decent return on time invested is bounties. So I guess enjoy living in bounties for 10 weeks as if DE has never acknowledged player burnout being a problem. 

And that is just for the CHANCE that the relic you eventually buy might RNG you into the component you're after.

 

This is supposed to be their "fix" for consoles that don't have decent access to prime relics because they came online after the primes went into the vault. All I see is an event that is largely going to frustrate people.

 

[Perfectly_Framed_Waifu]

2 minutes ago, SneakyErvin said:

No you dont. The thing you do not get is the plat, the rest is exactly the same.

$20 buys you the two accessories that were available in the $20 accessories packs previously.

$20 = 3 Raya. Accessories cost 2 and 1 Raya which = 3 Raya.

Not "exactly the same".

On 2021-11-02 at 8:05 PM, [DE]Danielle said:

The Nekros Prime accessories, for example, has the Uru Prime Syandana (2 Regal Aya) and the Acanthus Prime Armor Set (2 Regal Aya) for a total of 4 Regal Aya if purchased together through Prime Resurgence.

^ That'll cost you a minimum of $40 to acquire.

[(XBOX)Demiwolf0606]

This update litteraly is just emptying out our wallets.  That is the only new thing ive notices, more wallet space, less money in your wallet

[(XBOX)toughdragon17]

2 minutes ago, SneakyErvin said:

Except they've already acknowledged it and answered.

No they just gave a crapy explanation that wasn't true they had it tested before releasing it and still didn't listen to the feedback from those players 

[NekroArts]

Most of those in the forums have read the Dev Workshop post thoroughly on release and have already decided to do that.

[Vorpal_Ocelot]

9 minutes ago, (XBOX)Demiwolf0606 said:

Ooooo  Another one Numerikuu. "Hey this is DE we have an event going on, want to participate.  Well I'm sorry but you have to pay $20 or more to participate"

This is how I felt.

Why call it an event if everything free was all ready available ingame through trade the whole time. Nothing was made accessible through the event via grind and gameplay that wasn't all ready accessible ingame through grind and gameplay. Example: If you want a vaulted prime you find a mod/weapon part people want for plat, farm it, trade to plat, use plat to trade with a player who has the vaulted prime relic or part. Note this methid helps everyone involved with the trade process and everyone is happy.

Now you just have the added option to go up against RNGsus for Aya instead of community wanted items and help no one with your grind but yourself.

Most players who are more than 2 years in will find this event has nothing for them but a chance to spend real cash... during the holidays and a pandemic and money issues world wide but was hyped up as an event which usually means fun... but not so much this time.

All feedback welcome even if your against my point of view please post your thoughts!

For those attacking though and getting mean to eachother, this aint the spot for it. Time to be adults with feedback <3

[(XBOX)Demiwolf0606]

I understand the update was really to give console players a chance to get primes they missed out on, but why DE gotta be so pricy.  Like yeah, its a f2p game and they have to make money somehow, but you know what's something they could have done, put it for the prices of platinum.  $5,$10, etc

[BloodKitten]

when you consider that this is the price for 370 platinum, its about what i would imagine a prime would cost if it was in store for platinum, that said, i am buying prime access or prime accessories as they come out and will not buy currency that would be useless when the so called even ends.