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Aya and Vaulted Relics: Overview (Hotfix 30.9.4 Preview / Console Hotfix Preview)

[DE]Rebecca

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(NSW)RATHURUE

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2 hours ago, [DE]Rebecca said:

Full drop tables will be available on launch as always, but to use examples of these shifts we wanted to call out a few nodes ahead of time:

Ukko Before (6.25% chance for a specific Vaulted Relic) / After (8.33% chance for Aya)

Because this is a harder mission by enemy level standards, ‘Aya’ has replaced the odds of acquiring a specific Vaulted Relic at a minor increased rate.

Hepit Before (12.5% for a specific Vaulted Relic) /After (6.67% chance for Aya, all other active Prime Relics increased to 13.34%)
Because this is an easier mission by enemy level standards, Aya has replaced the Vaulted Relic at a minor lowered rate.

So basically on Star Chart, wherever you farm you still got 1 Aya per run.

And when you farm on Overworld maps you're gonna get shafted by RNG of No Aya per run.

 

What a grand waste of time this is, why can't you just implement Vaulted relic rotation on Overworld bounties? We already have THREE of them, not counting extra missions like Vault or Undervaults in Deimos.  

 

Example: Run unvaulted relics on Plains for Warframe A+B, then Warframe C+D on Vallis, E+F in Deimos, each runs for 4-6 weeks. Then rotate the schedule to Warframe G+H, I+J and K+L on those missions for the same time.  

That way in a year we can complete the Vault rotation! Or if that's too quick of a schedule and players only want to farm on certain overworld map due to design issues (please, for the love of god, eliminate the Plains drone escort and Deimos's Scientist escort), the relics can be rotated like A+B goes to Vallis after 4-6 weeks on Plains, then B+C goes to Deimos, where G+H appears on Plains. It's probably the same speed with normal Prime Unvaulting, but there's more CHOICE to farm instead of the three overworld sharing the same relics.

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Andy.

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vor 3 Stunden schrieb [DE]Rebecca:

Because this is a harder mission by enemy level standards, ‘Aya’ has replaced the odds of acquiring a specific Vaulted Relic at a minor increased rate.

Current:
Ukko: 2x 6.25% (12.5% to drop a Vaulted Relic)

After:
Ukko: 1x 8.33% (Loss of 4.17% chance to drop Aya)

 

Where is this a minor increase? This is a minor decrease.

 

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23 minutes ago, Andy. said:

Current:
Ukko: 2x 6.25% (12.5% to drop a Vaulted Relic)

After:
Ukko: 1x 8.33% (Loss of 4.17% chance to drop Aya)

 

Where is this a minor increase? This is a minor decrease.

 

Initial post of the Dev Workshop all over again.

I'm starting to get really tired of this new level of dishonest marketing. Please, either check over your numbers first or tell us what you mean from the get-go.

It really isn't helping player perception.

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4 hours ago, [DE]Rebecca said:

Overall, this also means there’s never been a better time to go after active Prime Relics if your collection is incomplete, as any Aya rate changes have increased the chances to the non-Vaulted Relics!

I can't believe you actually wrote this. It's extremely disingenuous and completely insulting. This event is for Unvaulted Relics, not the over-saturated and cheap non-Vaulted Relics. What you just wrote is unnecessary and only implies that DE thinks of the common player as a moron who would believe the nonsense I just quoted. If people want a non-Vaulted Axi Relic, they will be in Apollo, not Mot. The same goes for all other tiers and their respective farms outside of the Void. This is probably the worst way to spin nerfed drop chances.

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This is not explained well... So as an example (ignore the exact relics for vaulting purposes) but this is what I'm thinking this means....

We go from this...
Void/Teshub (Exterminate)
Lith G4 Relic    (12.50%)
Lith T7 Relic    (12.50%)
Lith K7 Relic    (12.50%)
Lith N7 Relic    (12.50%)
Lith A4 Relic    (12.50%)
Lith I1 Relic    (12.50%)
Lith B4 Relic    (12.50%)
Lith N8 Relic    (12.50%)

To this
Lith G4 Relic    (18.13%)
Lith T7 Relic    (18.13%)
Lith K7 Relic     (18.13%)
Lith N7 Relic    (18.13%)
Aya   (6.87%)
Aya   (6.87%)
Aya   (6.87%)
Aya   (6.87%)

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(XBOX)he11raz0r55

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If this is to prepare player for the new war why have the player jump thru hoops i find the relics system to be annoying and if a player spends hours on end they should get the part they need like ELITE DANGEROUS which is more fair game this game and other like it. However there is some good qualities about it but i myself only can take so much non sense. So lets hope the grind is not too bad. HERE IS AN EXAMPLE OF BAD IDEAS (waverider) (some of the items to rank up things to upgrade warframes and weapons) This event will determine if this game is worth to keep playing been playing for 3 to 4 month and the money i put in this game well 26 primes so far. 

 

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i lol because all i need are accessories and if it still costs me only 20.00-ish to get them i dont care if everyone else has to work 'harder' to grind out frames they want.

that said, i can imagine that the prime part economy is going to tank, and it will effectively be muuuuuuuuch cheaper to simply buy the parts once everyone has excess than to grind them. 

 

🤷‍♂️

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1 hour ago, Voltage said:

I can't believe you actually wrote this. It's extremely disingenuous and completely insulting. This event is for Unvaulted Relics, not the over-saturated and cheap non-Vaulted Relics. What you just wrote is unnecessary and only implies that DE thinks of the common player as a moron who would believe the nonsense I just quoted. If people want a non-Vaulted Axi Relic, they will be in Apollo, not Mot. The same goes for all other tiers and their respective farms outside of the Void. This is probably the worst way to spin nerfed drop chances.

EASY, KILLER. 

 

Thats my space mom you disrespeccin' with that tone!

 

Luv u Space Mom~! 

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(XBOX)Big Roy 324

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1 hour ago, ricuse7 said:

This is not explained well... So as an example (ignore the exact relics for vaulting purposes) but this is what I'm thinking this means....

We go from this...
Void/Teshub (Exterminate)
Lith G4 Relic    (12.50%)
Lith T7 Relic    (12.50%)
Lith K7 Relic    (12.50%)
Lith N7 Relic    (12.50%)
Lith A4 Relic    (12.50%)
Lith I1 Relic    (12.50%)
Lith B4 Relic    (12.50%)
Lith N8 Relic    (12.50%)

To this
Lith G4 Relic    (18.13%)
Lith T7 Relic    (18.13%)
Lith K7 Relic     (18.13%)
Lith N7 Relic    (18.13%)
Aya   (6.87%)
Aya   (6.87%)
Aya   (6.87%)
Aya   (6.87%)

If that's the case that may still be worth it. 

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5 hours ago, Traschnas said:

How about delaying the event and actually make it a 1:1 value with the old unvaulting. The prices are insulting and your reasoning for there not being platinum is weak. You guys made good decision the last couple updates.. why do you double down on scummy prices? You would make more money if you just included the platinum because more people would be willing to spend.

Because this game has always been about money lmfao. 

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(XBOX)R4ILGUN S

(XBOX)R4ILGUN S

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This "event" is totally meaningless, which as always only favors new players, the mr+30 who already have almost literally everything in the game are thrown to the sidelines again, I was excited thinking I would get the cosmetics but no, they will be paid, now wait for the new war, a journey of max 1 hour with 29 grind and then not playing again for 6 months because the game has no content for veteran players

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2 hours ago, (XBOX)Big Roy 324 said:

If that's the case that may still be worth it. 

Nope here's the real drop table of Teshub Void Exterminate mission:

Void/Teshub (Exterminate)
Lith G4 Relic Rare (6.67%)
Lith G4 Relic Rare (6.67%)
Lith T7 Relic Rare (6.67%)
Lith T7 Relic Rare (6.67%)
Lith K7 Relic Rare (6.67%)
Lith K7 Relic Rare (6.67%)
Lith N7 Relic Rare (6.67%)
Lith N7 Relic Rare (6.67%)
Lith A4 Relic Rare (6.67%)
Lith A4 Relic Rare (6.67%)
Lith I1 Relic Rare (6.67%)
Lith I1 Relic Rare (6.67%)
Aya Rare (6.67%)
Lith N8 Relic Rare (6.67%)
Lith N8 Relic Rare (6.67%)

 

Source official Warframe drop table https://n8k6e2y6.ssl.hwcdn.net/repos/hnfvc0o3jnfvc873njb03enrf56.html

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