[Conclave balance demand] Wolf sledge should be removed from the conclave just like Ember.

[(XBOX)GameGhost123]

8 minutes ago, -Gwanox said:

 

So far, devs fixed this, and the PvP community is very grateful for that :

 The PvE fall-off change that glitched Conclave weapon stats  (1600 burst DPS Tigris Prime in Conclave)

 

But there are still a lot of underlying issues within Conclave that can be exploited, and as developers you probably don't want that, right ? And spoilers : all of these issues come from PvE changes that affected Conclave by accident.

 

 

 Telos Boltace :

Update 20.0 (2017-03-24) - This atrocity is 5 years old, 5 years of being rag-dolled by the PvE Passive that slipped in Conclave when it got reworked for the main game. WHEN A DEDICATED PVP PASSIVE THAT CONSISTS OF A SIMPLE RADIAL KNOCK-DOWN IS IN THE GAME FILES, LEFT UNUSED FOR YEARS (if you are wondering about Wolf Sledge, it is equally broken, and I mentioned it in the melee 3.0 part)

Easy Fix : Make the weapon use the dedicated PvP Passive that you designed for it in the first place,

Easier Fix : Go in your weapon database, find the Telos Boltace, lookup the line "AvailableOnPvp": 1, change that 1 to a 0

 

Shield gating:

Update 27.2 (2020-03-05) - Two years of this BS. Shield gating got introduced in Conclave after being balanced for PVE and for PVE only. Increasing the overall time to kill, increasing the skill gap, making good players better and new players unable to progress, unless very motivated.

Easy Fix : Disable Shi*ld G*ting in Conclave

 

Melee 3.0:

Update 26.0 (2019-10-31) - More than two years of this godawful mechanic that was rebalanced for PvE and PvE ONLY ! Conclave used to have manual blocking from 50% damage reduction to 85% for sword and shields. Now ? 100% damage reduction on ALL melees, automatically blocked as soon as you press E and put your camera towards the opponent. You like getting your sniper headshot getting blocked by a dagger ? Yeah, me neither, another PvP shooter aberration that would make someone used to normal FPS/ TPS punch their monitor.

• You can also block any incoming damage while throwing your Glaive weapon ! You don't have to get a PhD in gaming to understand that one-shooting your opponent with Cerata (High AOE toxin damage, bypasses shield) or Wolf Sledge (Auto aim wide AOE one tap) while being invincible is NOT BALANCED. Please remove these weapons already...
• Also, most weapon have completely broken combo damage multipliers since this update, we sure love one taps from a single press of the E key.

 

Easy Fix : Revert the Conclave melee system to 2.0 in Conclave and add a cap to toxin damage (50 damage maximum for instance) + Remove/ nerf Wolf Sledge

 

The Saryn-Electricity Exploit:

Update 27.2 (2020-03-05) - Two years of the most broken exploit of the recent times. Electric and other status once again got rebalanced for PvE and PvE ONLY, essentially turning electric into a high damage over time (DoT), aera of effect (AoE) status. That damage over time is of course affected by Saryn's increased status duration, making Staticor a one tap, AOE nuke. Or giving any electric weapon one tap capabilities on body shots. 

• Also, when the user of the exploit is lagging, it allows the electric status to re-proc itself on the same target, making the damage infinite, while spreading to other players. Fun, right ?

Easy Fix : Disable electric procs and gas procs in Conclave (Gas is also dealing insane damage compared to pre-U27 Conclave).

This tbh

[(XBOX)GameGhost123]

DE with the new update coming soon can you please take 2 seconds to remove Wolf Sledge and Telos Boltace from Conclave. It is a first priority fix. We're fine with taking baby steps. 

[CVNuclearReagan]

Strong demand to remove Wolf sledge in conclave, wolf sledge has a significant impact on the balance of the conclave. The explosion range of the Wolf sledge can pass through many walls and ignore the cover to kill the enemy in seconds, and the flying sledge will automatically track the enemy. It has an overly efficient fire rate and is extremely unbalanced in the conclave. Please please please remove this weapon from the conclave, it's perfect in PVE but not for the conclave balance at all.

[Jivy]

This is the conclave we are talking about

[(PSN)gadgaurd]

Oh my. Sounds like I should buy a Wolf Sledge.

[Kontrollo]

Yes please, it has been a problem for a long time now.

[Wolfdoggie]

Wait, how do you guys even find people to play with to complain about these things?

[traybong111]

You know it's bad when the RC-squatting Mirebot starts begging. 

[Tyreaus]

18 hours ago, Wolfdoggie said:

Wait, how do you guys even find people to play with to complain about these things?

A mixture of luck and, probably, the Conclave discord. (Not sure if we're allowed to link, googling "Warframe Conclave Discord" pops it up easy enough tho)

[Kontrollo]

On 2022-06-18 at 5:45 PM, traybong111 said:

You know it's bad when the RC-squatting Mirebot starts begging. 

Yikes, you're right.

But yeah, squatting in Recruit Conditioning to dump on newcomers is a separate (long-standing and repeatedly mentioned) issue.

The problematic weapons and balance issues still need to be addressed regardless.

[(XBOX)GameGhost123]

On 2022-06-17 at 8:26 PM, Wolfdoggie said:

Wait, how do you guys even find people to play with to complain about these things?

I play on pc, xbox, and ps4 and can say matchmaking works for alot of the day. Just depends on the time of day. If matchmaking doesn't work when you want it to then you can make friends who enjoy conclave or join groups that share an interest in conclave like the conclave discord or other groups. It's pretty easy for me to find a match most of the time.  If you have anymore questions about conclave and are serious about it feel free to message me here or in-game. Same username I'll help you out.

[GloryHaloPrime]

Some weapons are too powerful in Conclave and more players are using these weapons to gain lots of kills easily. This made other normal players very angry. These weapons seriously affect the balance of the game!

PLEASE BAN THEM AS SOON AS POSSIBLE !!!!

1. Wolf Sledge : high damage (300+explosion) , wide explosion range and it can aim by itself .

2.Telos Boltace : Cause doll effect and completely control the enemies .The player who is controlled cant do anything . Its so easy to kill the other players.

3.Mier & Cerata : Toxic damage can instant kill other players with one hit.

4.Dark Split Swrd : The twin sword has the same damage as its another huge sword (110damage per hit) and high attack speed !

5.Lacera,Mios,Jat Kusar : The mod TAINTED HYDRA made it overpowered. High damage and attack speed ！

 

Hope these weapons can be banned or fixed as soon as possible ! They really affected our game experience !!!! 

Thank you

[The_Royal_Elf_Mika]

how about no.

nvm i didnt see this was for conclave.

do whatever then, i dont play conclave.

[(XBOX)GameGhost123]

On 2022-07-14 at 10:46 PM, GloryHaloPrime said:

Some weapons are too powerful in Conclave and more players are using these weapons to gain lots of kills easily. This made other normal players very angry. These weapons seriously affect the balance of the game!

PLEASE BAN THEM AS SOON AS POSSIBLE !!!!

1. Wolf Sledge : high damage (300+explosion) , wide explosion range and it can aim by itself .

2.Telos Boltace : Cause doll effect and completely control the enemies .The player who is controlled cant do anything . Its so easy to kill the other players.

3.Mier & Cerata : Toxic damage can instant kill other players with one hit.

4.Dark Split Swrd : The twin sword has the same damage as its another huge sword (110damage per hit) and high attack speed !

5.Lacera,Mios,Jat Kusar : The mod TAINTED HYDRA made it overpowered. High damage and attack speed ！

 

Hope these weapons can be banned or fixed as soon as possible ! They really affected our game experience !!!! 

Thank you

Yes please 

[Jivy]

They don't care about the conclave unfortunately