[DE]Danielle Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 (edited) PSA: PC Minimum Supported Specs Changes Coming in 2023 In 2023 (specific date TBD), we will be changing our minimum specs to require the following CPU features: SSSE3, SSE4.1 and SSE4.2*. *Your CPU must support SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSSE3, SSE4.1, SSE4.2. These are CPU-instructions that were first added to processors like the Intel i7 860 (Nehalem microarchitecture released in 2008) or the AMD FX-4170 (Bulldozer microarchitecture released 2011). As you can see, even computers that are a decade old support these features so you probably have nothing to worry about! If you’re still rocking a vintage machine that doesn’t support these instructions, you’ll see a warning in the Warframe launcher so you know it’s time for an upgrade. These changes will finally let the PC version of the game get optimizations we’ve had on the Xbox and PlayStation versions for years and will make it easier to do more optimizations, since all developers will be using them all day every day (as opposed to only when testing on some consoles). In true minspec PSA style, we want to give our PC Tenno a very early heads up. While 2023 is still a ways away, we don’t want any surprises when it comes time to implement these changes. In addition to the Launcher warning, we will post another PSA as a follow up to this one once we have a date to share of the updated minspec. Thank you, Tenno! ----- 03/03/2023 Edit: As announced on Devstream #168, The Duviri Paradox is coming in April - and so are the above changes to the minimum spec requirements on PC! 13/04/2023 Edit: As announced today, The Duviri Paradox is launching April 26th! Which means the above min spec requirements will also be established. Edited April 13 by [DE]Danielle PC min spec changes April 26th 52 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkmatt3r Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 07 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trunks013 Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 (edited) I can confirm I5 3570 supports it but you had me worryed for a bit XD For general intel processor its in the Instruction Set Extensions section you will see the supported SSE in specifications ^.^ Edited September 7, 2022 by trunks013 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
--i9-- Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 does the intel i9 10900k work for this? can someone tell me kekw 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LillyRaccune Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 1 minute ago, --i9-- said: does the intel i9 10900k work for this? can someone tell me kekw google "does i9 10900k support SSE" 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
--i9-- Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 Just now, LillyRaccune said: google "does i9 10900k support SSE" they mentioned specific SSE's so idk if it had to support all or what Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sannidor Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 This will mean end of Warframe journey for thousands of players. But of course DE is aware of that. What's next, game not working on Windows7 ? Please reconsider, this is a bad move. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trunks013 Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 6 minutes ago, --i9-- said: does the intel i9 10900k work for this? can someone tell me kekw Instruction Set ExtensionsIntel® SSE4.1, Intel® SSE4.2, Intel® AVX2 you are good to go tenno ^.^ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LillyRaccune Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 2 minutes ago, --i9-- said: they mentioned specific SSE's so idk if it had to support all or what The purpose of this update is to say "old machines may not be able to play warframe properly anymore" The answer to your question is yes. Your CPU supports SSE. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
de1337er Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 (edited) The free CPU-Z utility can be used to quickly check processor support. SSE implementations are listed under the Instructions field on the CPU tab. On 2022-09-07 at 5:10 PM, [DE]Danielle said: Veilbreaker: Hotfix 32.0.1 General Changes: Enabled launcher warnings for systems that won't meet the minspec changes coming in 2023. To learn more, read our PSA: PC Minimum Supported Specs Changes Coming in 2023. Note: If you do not see a launcher warning, congrats! You’re in the clear and meet the minspec requirements. Edited September 9, 2022 by de1337er Hotfix 32.0.1 release notes indicate the launcher will now check the processor for the upcoming requirement support 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarriaga Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 (edited) 46 minutes ago, Sannidor said: This will mean end of Warframe journey for thousands of players. But of course DE is aware of that. What's next, game not working on Windows7 ? Please reconsider, this is a bad move. I would like to see the game pushed forward technologically on par with features introduced in recent years. Windows 7 is 12 years old (13 by the time this update requirement goes live) and does not support DX12, DirectStorage, raytracing or HDR. Pushing forward means cutting down on technological hard-walls from legacy systems because at some point the new features are otherwise held back just so compatibility is retained. The forum had this conversation last year when support for DX10 ended. Edited September 7, 2022 by Jarriaga 34 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chroia Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 (edited) 15 hours ago, [DE]Danielle said: If you’re still rocking a vintage machine that doesn’t support these instructions, you’ll soon start to see a warning in the Warframe launcher so you know it’s time for an upgrade. In true minspec PSA style, we want to give our PC Tenno a very early heads up. Appreciated. --- 32 minutes ago, Jarriaga said: Pushing forward means cutting down on technological hard-walls from legacy systems because at some point the new features are otherwise held back just so compatibility is retained. FWIW, as someone who's going to have to upgrade or say goodbye, I support this move. Unless the game was 'sold' as guaranteed to work with X, there comes a point where maintaining backwards compatibility is detrimental. Hell, I'm amazed (and obviously pleased) that Warframe's worked, and well, on my (mostly) 14 year old computer for as long as it has. Edited September 7, 2022 by Chroia 25 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schwarzsturm Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 Thanks for the warning, gonna see if i don't get any trouble since i can't change the processor of my PC :( Hope to be able to play the game next year :( 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UmbraAtrox Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 9 minutes ago, Schwarzsturm said: can't change the processor of my PC Laptop? Nuc? What cpu do you have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tawlney Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 2 hours ago, Sannidor said: This will mean end of Warframe journey for thousands of players. But of course DE is aware of that. What's next, game not working on Windows7 ? Please reconsider, this is a bad move. I don't see how this is a bad move. I don't believe that this will affect thousands of players (maybe hundreds sure, thousands?). Given the age of these cpus being unsupported it's very unlikely this will be a bad thing in the long run for both the players and the devs. I don't know how anyone can play warframe (given it's size and "internet" requirements) and not have access to a 7~8 year old CPU. Those ones aren't really that expensive. As for windows 7 I left that one a long time ago, but do understand many have not upgraded for a variety of reasons. 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uhkretor Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, --i9-- said: does the intel i9 10900k work for this? 16 hours ago, [DE]Danielle said: *Your CPU must support SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSSE3, SSE4.1, SSE4.2. ... Yeah, I believe I've got that covered for the next 2 decades... 👍 Edited September 7, 2022 by Uhkretor 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digressive Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 (edited) Cheers for the update :) Edited March 9 by Digressive removed my joke which could be read as insensitive. I apologise. 26 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trunks013 Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 20 minutes ago, Digressive said: Oh no, time to upgrade my Amiga 500 Cheers for the update :) Cmon man that PC is older than me and i'm a freaking dinosaur XD 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taiiat Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 3 hours ago, Chroia said: FWIW, as someone who's going to have to upgrade or say goodbye, I support this move. Unless the game was 'sold' as guaranteed to work with X, there comes a point where maintaining backwards compatibility is detrimental. Hell, I'm amazed (and obviously pleased) that Warframe's worked, and well, on my (mostly) 14 year old computer for as long as it has. pending regional availability, but thesedays there are some remarkably good deals for CPU performance. a 12100 will blow old stuff out of the Water, and it's really cheap. well the MSRP is, so in theory it should be cheap everywhere. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mystic_Ervo Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 (edited) 6 hours ago, --i9-- said: they mentioned specific SSE's so idk if it had to support all or what Look at this 👇🏻 20 hours ago, [DE]Danielle said: *Your CPU must support SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSSE3, SSE4.1, SSE4.2. 6 hours ago, Sannidor said: This will mean end of Warframe journey for thousands of players. But of course DE is aware of that. What's next, game not working on Windows7 ? Please reconsider, this is a bad move. Intel i7 860, that's for around 2009, processors older than that model are incompatible with most current hardware, it's impossible for someone to be dragging that processor until now Rest assured that if a computer has that processor, it is very likely that it will not be able to run Warframe, neither in 2023 nor now nor before Edited September 7, 2022 by Mystic_Ervo 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobie-wan Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 4 hours ago, de1337er said: The free CPU-Z utility can be used to quickly check processor support. SSE implementations are listed under the Instructions field on the CPU tab. Beat me to it. 2 hours ago, Digressive said: Oh no, time to upgrade my Amiga 500 Ooh, fancy pants over here. *reassures the C64 that it's still loved and plays some nice crunchy SID tunes* 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saad Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 I have played this game on Intel Core 2 Quad (15yo CPU) years ago and was surprised with the performance and optimization of Warframe. Even now I still play this game in 1080p on my i5 2400 (11yo CPU) which support the aforementioned instructions. At this point if there is still someone rocking those decade old CPUs then it's about time they upgrade as almost every new game require those instructions. I'm very happy to see how much work DE has done to optimize this game and let potato PC users also enjoy it. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rainy Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 Wow, I'm cutting it close on an AMD FX-8350! I am happy you still support Windows 7 as well. The only games I've played that truly have issues with it are ones that use Win10 gimmicks like Cortana or games that explicity check for the OS version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stryker2048 Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 (edited) this simply says, that if your PC's CPU does not support SSSE3, SSE4.1 and SSE4.2*. , its time to buy a new PC :P before 2023 arrives. Edited September 7, 2022 by Stryker2048 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scheff Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 (edited) oof thats not nice... price hiking still going on where i live, older motherboards (am3+ and such) just vanished (thanks cryptominers) still trying to upgrade my motherboard. there is definetly no funds remaining to upgrade my phenom II x6... cant we squeeze some sse4A in there? very big oof. Edited September 7, 2022 by Scheff 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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