How to beat archons with melee

[Monolake]

I'm on a quest to faceroll archons with just melee, so here are my results do far

All tested on the current archon Boreal, which is an absolute dummy. Solo. No Buffs.

 You want a good range melee with a stance/animation to hit his HEAD, body attacks deal 20x less

Heavy weapons: ie Gram Prime: bad stance, slow attacks, takes too long, you can use it but it takes over 2 min which is sub par

Hammers: Kuva Shieldeg ok stance when you do ovehead attack but still too slow.

Gunblades :  Stropha - just no, Vastilok - usable but still too slow         

Rapier:     Endura, Destreza  - low dps, cant hit head

Dual Swords  Keres prime, Nami Skila prime etc  - dont hit head, low dps

Tonfas ei Kronen Prime, Praedos  - only one swing hits overhead, not enough dps

Claws Venka Prime - cant hit head, no dps

POLEARMS            This is the best result I've got mit lots of easy overHead hits. Guandao P doing the best 70k~100k head hits. 1st stage taking about 90 seconds (with no extra buffs)

 

 

Please add your findings

[Monolake]

This is the build Ive used. with arcane Fury on the frame.  Non-BR build was also tested and it gave slightly lower results, damage attenuation is a bich.

[Pakaku]

37 minutes ago, Monolake said:

yes this is feedback and playtesting on how melee fares vs Archons, it should be obvious 🙄

A flying damage sponge? I'd say they all fare pretty god-awful against them, not counting anything ranged

[Kainosh]

Maybe aerial attacks will hit their heads....   Tho, aerial melee is not very suitable for continuous damage.  I tried melee only against Amar as Nidus. With Dual Ichor.  It was not very effective.

 

Melee system is not very well suited against bosses.  There are different combos, but Enemies do not care what combos you use or such.  No aiming too. It simply needs more mechanics.

 I wish Bosses like Archons (humanoids) had combo icons (like Profit Taker's resistances, but for combo weakness) and a Stagger bar.  If you do a right combo to its body, it fills Stagger bar.  When bar is full, Archon gets stunned and stops attacking/moving for a while.  You can do Aerial combo to its head for more damage (no attenuation, but can remove only 10% of its hp).....or something like that.   And this can be used for older bosses, like Ruk and Regor.

[0_The_F00l]

I do not have the patience for this , 

But i am curious how some of the unique weapons like the tenet agendus or slam focused weapons could do.

Maybe that warfan with projectiles.

[Monolake]

thanks mods for sabbotaging feedback to make sure developers never see it.

why do I even bother posting anything

[Zakkhar]

On 2022-09-30 at 10:08 PM, Monolake said:

You want a good range melee

And you proceed to list all the meles beside the one with highest range in game.

 

[Monolake]

5 minutes ago, Zakkhar said:

And you proceed to list all the meles beside the one with highest range in game.

 

and you proceed to be snide instead of posting anything of substance, yet another useless forum troll

[Zakkhar]

7 hours ago, Monolake said:

and you proceed to be snide instead of posting anything of substance, yet another useless forum troll

So, you do not know the melee I had in mind?