Nyx 2nd and 3rd Ability Rework

[(PSN)RB3-Reloaded]

Hey I’m just trying to give an insight to how Nyx could possibly be given a rework/buff to her 2nd (psychic bolts) and 3rd (chaos sphere) abilities.

I believed her second ability should be combined with her 3rd where several enemies are stripped and are also confused and attack each other in range so essentially both abilities simultaneously.

She should then have a New 3rd ability called “Proselytize“  a verb (to convert someone from one opinion or belief to another)

When held it would A. buff Nyx mind control ally by transforming them into *specific* eximus unit and double their current damage output but also B. Give them overguard so they can’t be gotten rid of by Nullifiers or Acolyte abilities nor can they be staggered by other enemies overall increasing their dps further.

Corpus Units - Guardian Eximus

Grineer Units - Arson Eximus

Infested Units - Leech/Senguine Eximus

Specail Units/Sentient - Speed or Fire Rate Increase

Also when you tap the ability when you have a mind control they will preform their unique abilities on a timer.

For example on a Heavy Gunner they will preform a ground slam.

Brood Mothers will Spawn maggots

Hyeka Masters will spawn their Kavats

Manics will preform a finisher an enemy 

Corpus Heavy Units will spawn a sheild Osprey ect.

Moa Walkers will stomp

Disrupters will on occasion give your weapons magnetic procs

Narmer Enemies use that laser

The list goes on… Seeing Nyx actually mind control and influence enemies in this manner will improve her significantly I think and give her more of a “mind control & psychic” feel

[chaotea]

4 hours ago, (PSN)RB3-Reloaded said:

I believed her second ability should be combined with her 3rd where several enemies are stripped and are also confused and attack each other in range so essentially both abilities simultaneously.

This is bad only because chaos is already so OP, it doesnt need more power. Its good enough that it should probably be her 4th.

[(PSN)RB3-Reloaded]

10 minutes ago, chaotea said:

This is bad only because chaos is already so OP, it doesnt need more power. It’s good enough that it should probably be her 4th.

Chaos is not OP? Chaos has never been OP? Chaos is essentially a Radiation proc on a timer & Xaku’s Accuse is essentially a better chaos. If you said Assimilate was OP I’d get it but chaos nah? Even Nekros Terrify is essentially a better Chaos after the Armor strip changes. If we wanted to be conservative I could see DE possibly reducing range or Duration but it still doesn’t change other frames have objectively better versions of this ability as of now.

[chaotea]

3 hours ago, (PSN)RB3-Reloaded said:

Chaos is not OP? Chaos has never been OP? Chaos is essentially a Radiation proc on a timer & Xaku’s Accuse is essentially a better chaos. If you said Assimilate was OP I’d get it but chaos nah? Even Nekros Terrify is essentially a better Chaos after the Armor strip changes. If we wanted to be conservative I could see DE possibly reducing range or Duration but it still doesn’t change other frames have objectively better versions of this ability as of now.

Na. Im a Xaku main and accuse is basically worthles tbh. Terrifys not bad but chaos effectivly ties up hudge groups of enemies, and with its augment even more so. To the point that using Nyx in solo steel path missions is possible to do without taking damage. No ability should be judged in a vacuum. Yes, other abilities can 'do more' than just distract the enemy, but non distract quite like chaos. I mean Accuse has a hard cap on the number of targets.

[(PSN)RB3-Reloaded]

47 minutes ago, chaotea said:

Na. Im a Xaku main and accuse is basically worthles tbh. Terrifys not bad but chaos effectivly ties up hudge groups of enemies, and with its augment even more so. To the point that using Nyx in solo steel path missions is possible to do without taking damage. No ability should be judged in a vacuum. Yes, other abilities can 'do more' than just distract the enemy, but non distract quite like chaos. I mean Accuse has a hard cap on the number of targets.

Okay that is true Accuse us capped at 8 but I always thought that is because it goes through walls and essentially pacifies enemies meanwhile chaos does not.

I could argue and say due the inherit ways of how Enemy Target Priority Range works Accuse essentially does the same thing but I’m not that oblivious to the range scale of chaos especially with its augment.

But a combination of her 2 and 3 wouldn’t really start turning Nyx into a power creeped crazy popular frame as those two abilities are part of her kit regardless with just two clicks and neither are subsumable. But it’s true frames shouldn’t be judged in a vacuum but comparisons to other frames are like the only thing we have to scale something when considering a buff or rework right? 🤷‍♂️

[chaotea]

2 hours ago, (PSN)RB3-Reloaded said:

Okay that is true Accuse us capped at 8 but I always thought that is because it goes through walls and essentially pacifies enemies meanwhile chaos does not.

Chaos goes through walls though im sure. Its true it pacifies, but only those enemies. Unless your standing in the middle of them your still a likely target. With chaos, if your not the closest target you worth get shot.

2 hours ago, (PSN)RB3-Reloaded said:

I could argue and say due the inherit ways of how Enemy Target Priority Range works Accuse essentially does the same thing but I’m not that oblivious to the range scale of chaos especially with its augment.

Yea, the augment brings it to a whole new level for sure.

2 hours ago, (PSN)RB3-Reloaded said:

But a combination of her 2 and 3 wouldn’t really start turning Nyx into a power creeped crazy popular frame as those two abilities are part of her kit regardless with just two clicks and neither are subsumable. But it’s true frames shouldn’t be judged in a vacuum but comparisons to other frames are like the only thing we have to scale something when considering a buff or rework right?

IDK, I think its the wrong way to look at the frame. The way I see it, leave chaos, its good as is. Switch 1 and 2. Makes more sense to have bolts as a spamable 25 energy cast (you wouldnt need to change it as you halfing the energy cost, which is a buff in itself). For mind control, i'd like to see an increase to base duration, as its fun to invest in a companion.

[(PSN)RB3-Reloaded]

25 minutes ago, chaotea said:

IDK, I think it’s the wrong way to look at the frame. The way I see it, leave chaos, it’s good as is. Switch 1 and 2. Makes more sense to have bolts as a spamable 25 energy cast (you wouldnt need to change it as you halfing the energy cost, which is a buff in itself). For mind control, i'd like to see an increase to base duration, as it’s fun to invest in a companion.

But The Duration of the mind control did receive a base duration buff at 45 seconds and it scales really well with Duration. And that’s the problem in my eyes barely anything has changed.

And Its a VERY FUN ability my favourite ability in the game actually, to be able to just control an enemy make it an ally then it fights for you.

But I’ve consistently experienced the following:

•Nullifiers take it away instantly when the ally walks into them.

• That tiny gap to actually increase its dps which is impossible to finisher on doesn’t scale well.

•Impact procs and staggers affecting your ally significantly reducing their dps (not that deep but note worthy)

• The unique enemy you mind cc rarely using its unique abilities due to AI (which is often why ppl mind cc in the first place).

•or you accidentally killing an Eximus unit you prioritise to control.

These are just things I wish a Nyx rework would work on when it came down to mind control.

It is a staple to her kit and concept of a psychic so it should still be her 1st and joining her 2 and her 3 (with tweeks if you feel like it’s op) to make room for an ability that improves her mind cc ally and gives you a little more control over it, is what she needs imo.