[DE]Connor Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 Greetings Tenno! Meeting his enemies with a passive fist, Baruuk Prime strikes onto all platforms for the holidays. And you know what that means - more Riven disposition changes! With many recent changes to weapons (explosives, semi-auto, etc.) and perhaps more coming in the future, we are choosing to be more conservative than usual with our changes, to avoid whiplash if things look different next time. As an added bonus, we are improving some Companion Weapon Rivens - the Hound weapons (Akaten, Batoten and Lacerten) are all being increased from 0.5 to 1! Since we don’t currently adjust these Rivens, we’re just bringing them up to the average. Thanks to everyone who reported this inconsistency. Our previous set of changes can be found here, and our guidelines and principles for these changes can be found here. Thanks for reading, and have a great holiday season! RIFLES Spoiler Aeolak: 1.05->1.1 Afentis: 0.5->0.8 Alternox: 0.95->1 Nagantaka Prime: 0.95->1 Proboscis Cernos: 0.65->0.7 Tenet Flux Rifle: 1->1.05 SHOTGUNS Spoiler Phantasma Prime: 0.5->0.65 SECONDARY Spoiler Aegrit: 0.5->0.6 Akjagara: 1.05->1.1 Akjagara Prime: 0.95->1 Hystrix Prime: 0.7->0.85 Magnus Prime: 1.15->1.2 Tenet Detron: 0.8->0.85 Tenet Diplos: 0.7->0.75 Tenet Spirex: 0.9->0.95 Tombfinger (secondary): 0.65->0.7 MELEE Spoiler Balla: 0.9->0.85 Dual Kamas: 1.3->1.35 Dual Kamas Prime: 1.2->1.25 Ghoulsaw: 1.1->1.15 Hespar: 0.7->0.75 Innodem: 0.55->0.6 Karyst Prime: 1.05->1.1 Korumm: 0.95->1.05 Nepheri: 0.85->0.9 Pupacyst: 1.3->1.35 Rumblejack: 1.1->1.15 Slaytra: 0.5->0.7 Tatsu Prime: 0.5->0.65 Telos Boltace: 1.05->1.1 Tenet Grigori: 0.8->0.85 Tenet Livia: 0.7->0.75 Venato: 1.2->1.25 Verdilac: 1->1.05 Vericres: 0.75->0.8 ARCHGUNS Spoiler Corvas Prime: 0.75->0.8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datursa Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 Awesome! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numerounius Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 On 2022-12-12 at 7:25 AM, [DE]Connor said: Aeolak: 1.05->1.1 Yay a buff! Nice. On 2022-12-12 at 7:25 AM, [DE]Connor said: Proboscis Cernos: 0.65->0.7 That didn't really need buffing but okay I guess? On 2022-12-12 at 7:25 AM, [DE]Connor said: Tenet Detron: 0.8->0.85 Tenet Diplos: 0.7->0.75 PT happiness noises (also no nerf to Zenith is nice to see!) On 2022-12-12 at 7:25 AM, [DE]Connor said: Telos Boltace: 1.05->1.1 What? Yes please I will take a buff on a weapon that I have 15 rivens for (no I am not joking I actually do have 15 Boltace rivens) On 2022-12-12 at 7:25 AM, [DE]Connor said: Ghoulsaw: 1.1->1.15 Just make it 1.5 dispo at this point. Weapon is agreed to be pretty garbage with the stance it has right now. Smaller list than usual but tons of nice buffs on underrated weapons ice nice to see! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
touc Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 On 2022-12-12 at 11:25 PM, [DE]Connor said: Corvas Prime: 0.75->0.8 cool buff, but can coravs prime's projectile hitbox please get a fix? video is linked showing the bug below Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrinkingRock Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 Seems like either Rivens have gotten to a stable place or the data you're pulling from is becoming too bloated. Hoping it's the former. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadikos Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 cool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadikos Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 On 2022-12-12 at 4:25 PM, [DE]Connor said: As an added bonus, we are improving some Companion Weapon Rivens - the Hound weapons (Akaten, Batoten and Lacerten) are all being increased from 0.5 to 1! Since we don’t currently adjust these Rivens, we’re just bringing them up to the average. Thanks to everyone who reported this inconsistency. cool! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)WhipNurCream Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 1 hour ago, XHADgaming said: Yay a buff! Nice. That didn't really need buffing but okay I guess? PT happiness noises (also no nerf to Zenith is nice to see!) What? Yes please I will take a buff on a weapon that I have 15 rivens for (no I am not joking I actually do have 15 Boltace rivens) Just make it 1.5 dispo at this point. Weapon is agreed to be pretty garbage with the stance it has right now. Smaller list than usual but tons of nice buffs on underrated weapons ice nice to see! You know they don't usually do manual changes right? it's based off our usage stats. so these changes reflect our use since the last set of changes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Numerounius Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 18 minutes ago, (XBOX)WhipNurCream said: You know they don't usually do manual changes right? it's based off our usage stats. so these changes reflect our use since the last set of changes. Actually, it's 50/50: On 2022-03-28 at 10:01 AM, [DE]Connor said: For each set of adjustments, we generate a “recommended” value for each weapon. This number is based 50% on usage stats from players at high Mastery Rank, and 50% from an “internal ranking”. These internal rankings are maintained by Digital Extremes developers based on a weapon’s perceived strength, and are adjusted when opinions change, or when a stronger variant of a weapon is released. Internal rankings are applied per family of weapon - this allows us to keep Dispositions within a family relatively close to each other, to avoid a situation where a weaker weapon becomes the stronger choice once a Riven is applied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Famecans Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 Fact: nobody likes builds with faction mods Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portlalaland Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 So, what made Balla popular, that it's the only one got the nerf? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motodog242 Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 7 minutes ago, Famecans said: Fact: nobody likes builds with faction mods Me with a Prisma Skana build with the New Loka faction mod: Damn, I knew I was a nobody, but it still hurts. Didn't know bullying was allowed now, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motodog242 Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 2 minutes ago, Portlalaland said: So, what made Balla popular, that it's the only one got the nerf? Speed daggering probably got popular again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Famecans Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 19 minutes ago, Portlalaland said: So, what made Balla popular, that it's the only one got the nerf? 17 minutes ago, Motodog242 said: Me with a Prisma Skana build with the New Loka faction mod: Damn, I knew I was a nobody, but it still hurts. Didn't know bullying was allowed now, lol. Weapons like Tenet Flux Rifle slasher queen; high firerate; fast reload; very nice aiming recoil; but it's increasing riven's disposition. do you know why?!?! tenet flux rifle only works with faction mods builds, nobody likes faction mods, a tiberon prime is many times better than a flux rifle and you don't need to equip faction mods. i'm talking about mod like [primed bane of grinner] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numerikuu Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 1 hour ago, Portlalaland said: So, what made Balla popular, that it's the only one got the nerf? Dagger version allows for spam of Exodia Contagion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Robby_Bevard Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 4 hours ago, DrinkingRock said: Seems like either Rivens have gotten to a stable place or the data you're pulling from is becoming too bloated. Hoping it's the former. Since they split the dispo between variants, and they start from the smallest disposition now instead of in the middle, they generally don't have to be nerfed anymore, so its generally just the newer items slowly working up to where they belong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portlalaland Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 19 hours ago, Numerikuu said: Dagger version allows for spam of Exodia Contagion. So, that's something new? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShogunGunshow Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 These aren't getting any buffs because they're needed or not needed. Riven dispos are based purely on use stats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atrak8 Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 On 2022-12-15 at 7:15 AM, Portlalaland said: So, what made Balla popular, that it's the only one got the nerf? Oh that's just because I got a Balla Riven a couple of days ago.😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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