FrothingLoins Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 (edited) Seriously? I mean Warframe's naming conventions aren't the most creative...But they make sense for the most part. Valkyr does not. Valkyries (The obvious root name) were soul-collectors for the halls of Valhalla. They were sent to reward warriors who fell in glorious battle by taking them back to Valhalla where they could feast, F*** and prepare for Ragnarok. On top of that when valkyries are referenced in combat in the eddas they are direct, efficient and controlled strategists. A captive science project gone wrong with cat-claws(because anime tropes woot!) and a grappling hook has nothing to do theme or otherwise with the Valkyrie and as such the Valkyr frame does not deserve it's name. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valkyrie -100 for creativity, DE. Edited November 21, 2013 by FrothingLoins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegamer118 Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 (edited) i think it comes from Martyr, the V maybe from Alad Vbut at least it comes from Martyr makes more senses doesn t it ? Edited November 21, 2013 by thegamer118 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archistopheles Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Valkyr, also known either as V or VD, is a designer drug created by the U.S. Government in Project Valhalla and, after the project's cancellation, secretly manufactured by the Aesir Corporation. Valkyr was originally intended to be a performance-enhancing drug used by the military. The substance then became illegal and found itself sold on the black market as a highly addictive recreational drug. Valkyr, colored green, is shown to be consumed via an injection and is found in syringes. Or does no one here play Max Payne? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegamer118 Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Valkyr, also known either as V or VD, is a designer drug created by the U.S. Government in Project Valhalla and, after the project's cancellation, secretly manufactured by the Aesir Corporation. Valkyr was originally intended to be a performance-enhancing drug used by the military. The substance then became illegal and found itself sold on the black market as a highly addictive recreational drug. Valkyr, colored green, is shown to be consumed via an injection and is found in syringes. Or does no one here play Max Payne? nop never Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archistopheles Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 nop never Well in any case, my Valkyr will be dyed green. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lumireaver Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 This Valkyr has had its skin stripped and is kind of a psycho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrothingLoins Posted November 21, 2013 Author Share Posted November 21, 2013 Valkyr, also known either as V or VD, is a designer drug created by the U.S. Government in Project Valhalla and, after the project's cancellation, secretly manufactured by the Aesir Corporation. Valkyr was originally intended to be a performance-enhancing drug used by the military. The substance then became illegal and found itself sold on the black market as a highly addictive recreational drug. Valkyr, colored green, is shown to be consumed via an injection and is found in syringes. Or does no one here play Max Payne? ... "Aesir". THATS A @(*()$ NORSE TERM. THE VALKYR DRUG USES VALKYRIE AS THE ROOT NAME. You just further reinforced my point Arch. And yes, I am actually offended by the frame being named Valkyr. Let's rename Trinity to "Jesus" because she heals people. Oh wait. That'd be wrong. But SLANDERING the Valkyrie is fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archistopheles Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Better go complain to Max Payne directors first. That game is a few years old now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrothingLoins Posted November 21, 2013 Author Share Posted November 21, 2013 Better go complain to Max Payne directors first. That game is a few years old now... Max Payne is dead and gone. This affront is happening now in a "beta" environment where my rancorous outrage can change it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yg-Dosst Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 I personally don't like the name either, but it's what a lot of others wanted. Keep in mind that a massive amount of people who play the game and watch the streams will never, ever even touch the forums. The only true saving grace for this name though would have to be in Valkyr Prime. Since it would be unmarred by the Zanuka Project, it COULD be a legitimate Valkyrie, with a proper angelic appearance. Instead of Energy Claws, It would have energy Wrist-Swords Instead of a using the bindings that held it down as a grappling hook, they could give her a Wonder-Woman-esque Lasso of Truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrothingLoins Posted November 21, 2013 Author Share Posted November 21, 2013 I personally don't like the name either, but it's what a lot of others wanted. Keep in mind that a massive amount of people who play the game and watch the streams will never, ever even touch the forums. The only true saving grace for this name though would have to be in Valkyr Prime. Since it would be unmarred by the Zanuka Project, it COULD be a legitimate Valkyrie, with a proper angelic appearance. Instead of Energy Claws, It would have energy Wrist-Swords Instead of a using the bindings that held it down as a grappling hook, they could give her a Wonder-Woman-esque Lasso of Truth. That wouldn't save it. For Valkyr to be an appropriate name the entire theme of the frame would need to be reworked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueIstari Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Personally I wouldn't push for a change, but it does seem to be a poor naming decision. I'd have liked to see them stick with the much-loathed cat frame direction and give her a name more evocative of a beast running wild. And yes, I am actually offended by the frame being named Valkyr. Let's rename Trinity to "Jesus" because she heals people. Oh wait. That'd be wrong. But SLANDERING the Valkyrie is fine. Coincidentally, Trinity is already indirectly named for Christ. The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are considered the Trinity. But on the whole, you're kidding, right? Not sure where you're from, but here in the States, Christians such as myself and Christianity in general are slandered on a fairly regular basis with no repercussions. I'm also not quite certain how legit slander is involved here anyways, but whatever. My sympathies if you're honestly offended for religious reasons, which, given the nature of internet forums and complaints of this type, is unlikely but possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lumireaver Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 "Aesir". THATS A @(*()$ NORSE TERM. THE VALKYR DRUG USES VALKYRIE AS THE ROOT NAME. You realize "valkyr" is another spelling of "valkyrie," from the Norse "valkyrja," right? That wouldn't save it. For Valkyr to be an appropriate name the entire theme of the frame would need to be reworked. You're seriously forgetting the whole time spent in bondage thing, during which Valkyr was broken though torture and mutilation. Telling everyone what she's supposed to be is kind of insensitive to that horrific event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrothingLoins Posted November 21, 2013 Author Share Posted November 21, 2013 You realize "valkyr" is another spelling of "valkyrie," from the Norse "valkyrja," right? You're seriously forgetting the whole time spent in bondage thing, during which Valkyr was broken though torture and mutilation. Telling everyone what she's supposed to be is kind of insensitive to that horrific event. That's the exact problem dude. The name "valkyr" and her theme and backstory have NOTHING to do with each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoopStricken Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 (edited) The name "valkyr" and her theme and backstory have NOTHING to do with each other. Excalibur isn't the sword of the King of the Britons here; he's a space samurai... and not a very good one. How dare DE &!$$ over my cultural myth. Edited November 21, 2013 by LoopStricken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lumireaver Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 That's the exact problem dude. The name "valkyr" and her theme and backstory have NOTHING to do with each other. This is a kind of backwards inference. See, Valkyr probably owned her name before she was captured by Alad and viciously maimed. She certainly owned it before you objected to it and told us that she couldn't possibly be worthy of it. You're making the mistake of assuming she's nothing but a tortured victim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrothingLoins Posted November 21, 2013 Author Share Posted November 21, 2013 This is a kind of backwards inference. See, Valkyr probably owned her name before she was captured by Alad and viciously maimed. She certainly owned it before you objected to it and told us that she couldn't possibly be worthy of it. You're making the mistake of assuming she's nothing but a tortured victim. Her Skillset, Her Design, NOTHING ABOUT HER indicates she is a collector of Fallen Warriors. THATS WHAT VALKYRIES ARE. She does NOT deserve the name Valkyr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eltronix Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Well valkyr was not always the pissed off *@##$ she is now. She was drove to insanity from the corpus' torture. She was once a calm and collected tenno. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taux Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 I like how you're saying this to the people who originally named their sniper the Snipertron, and their burst rifle, the Burston. xD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrothingLoins Posted November 22, 2013 Author Share Posted November 22, 2013 Well valkyr was not always the &!$$ed off $#*(@ she is now. She was drove to insanity from the corpus' torture. She was once a calm and collected tenno. Does. Not. Change. The. Fact. That. Her. Theme. And. Skillset. Have. Nothing. In. Common. With. Valkyries. Apart. From. Having. Vaginas. And. Being. Warriors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loswaith Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 Actually misogynistic comments aside; beserker was the term used to describe the nordic warriors that fought in a fury trance. Even being noted as Odins special warriors in some myths. So it has a loose theme like every other warframe name, this one just happens to be tied to Nordic mythology, thusly using Valkyr as the name makes allot of sence, as it is the most well known depection of female nordic symbolism. Kinda makes allot of sence that two major aspects of nordic mythology whould be linked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nia.Tahl Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 Does. Not. Change. The. Fact. That. Her. Theme. And. Skillset. Have. Nothing. In. Common. With. Valkyries. Apart. From. Having. Vaginas. And. Being. Warriors. Does not change the fact that most people don't give a damn and it won't get changed anyway so go complain about mispresentation all you want, but it's something that happens. Valkyr is an irregular and designed as such. Having lost all that used to define her fits that theme just fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrothingLoins Posted November 22, 2013 Author Share Posted November 22, 2013 Does not change the fact that most people don't give a damn and it won't get changed anyway so go complain about mispresentation all you want, but it's something that happens. Valkyr is an irregular and designed as such. Having lost all that used to define her fits that theme just fine. No, it does not. She was never defined as anything LIKE a Valkyrie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwiceDead Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 What's your reasoning for Ash having his current name? Was he lit on fire in the past and reduced to a powdery like state, only to magically solidify and become a warframe once more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yg-Dosst Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 What's your reasoning for Ash having his current name? Was he lit on fire in the past and reduced to a powdery like state, only to magically solidify and become a warframe once more? I'm almost positive it's the smoky substance coming out of his arm, like how smoke rises from the sides of ashes. Not only that but Ash is basically solidified smoke, both being burnt residue. One just happens to have held together enough to be tangible. And consider the fact that Ash's arm look rather wooden being defaultly brown with marks in his arm that appear to be akin to the "pok" marks formed from a log burning from the side or bottom. All of this is based entirely on how he looks by the way, not a back story that has no recorded source in the game. But that's okay. Like I said all they have to do is make Valkyr Prime look angelic, which isn't hard with all of that white and gold. Just make the claws armblades and the cords into a Wonderwoman lasso of truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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