9000 hours, for nothing?

[General_Durandal]

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8th anniversary status page

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Steam Warframe page, (and foil badge)

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Why can't I use my hard grinded and built gear in Duviri?
The stuff i've built over the years?

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Why are you forcing us to play how you want us to play?

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This was THE most boring thing I've done all my life.

The combat was soooooo slow.

I understand it's a new,
"new player starting quest"
but sheesh.

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Went back in after the quest,
and I don't even get to chose my loadout.

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If I wanted to play like Dark Souls,
I'll go play Dark Souls.

I play Warframe,
because it has a unique playstyle.

That's the only reason I play it still.

Take that away,
and it's no longer fun...

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When I saw this game,
I was like,
naw,
but my bro was like,
yaw,
so I was like,
blaw,
we played it together,
I made friends,
it was fun,
bro stopped playing the game,
I kept going,
grind got worse,
fun became a chore,
time only to grind,
friends stopped playing one by one,
for various reasons,
long job hours,
short fun hours,
better things to spend those few fun hours on,
why can't game makers understand that?

Why does every game nowadays,
add unnecessary grind,
just to make the game "last" longer?

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Warframe is like a curvy road,
this update,
is like a hard left turn out of nowhere.

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Trading much gold,
for less silver,
is not wise.

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Edited May 13 by General_Durandal

[General_Durandal]

Okay,
I've exited, and re-enter the mission,
and the stuff is not random,
it keeps giving me the same three frames,
and the same 4 weapons,
2 of which I don't even have.

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[0_The_F00l]

You need to complete any one run or let the spiral change (every two hours) for the loadout to change.

[General_Durandal]

5 minutes ago, 0_The_F00l said:

You need to complete any one run or let the spiral change (every two hours) for the loadout to change.

Wow,
that just shows that DE,
either hates people with jobs,
or are just not paying attention,
to the bad choices they keep making.

EDIT - Thank you for telling me.
Sorry for not thanking you first.

Edited May 13 by General_Durandal

[SpicyDinosaur]

42 minutes ago, General_Durandal said:

Wow,
that just shows that DE,
either hates people with jobs,
or are just not paying attention,
to the bad choices they keep making.

EDIT - Thank you for telling me.
Sorry for not thanking you first.

why are you writing like you are attempting poetry?

[beol]

I got a degree

can not use in duviri

was it for nothing?

[General_Durandal]

3 minutes ago, beol said:

I got a degree

can not use in duviri

was it for nothing?

You so very much,
can not spend the truth in life,
inside of those lies.

I have spent my time,
unwisely on worthless fun,
now the fun is gone.

[General_Durandal]

24 minutes ago, SpicyDinosaur said:

why are you writing like you are attempting poetry?

Poetry is great,
as are many kinds of art,
bring it forth often.

Are you so piquant,
do you lumber to and fro,
and your stride makes prints?

[Nexeroff]

I'm in the same boat, years playing, 9k+ hours on steam, MR L3.  I have trained every weapon, every warframe, everything in the game.

Because it cost plat to keep junk MR fodder weapons I deleted them, I didn't need them was never going to use them so I got rid of them.  Now if I want to mod them for the new Duviri missions I have to grind all those crummy weapons again, and buy slots for them?  No, No I will not be forced to grind out and level all those crappy weapons all over again.

I have to level and forma all the junky no good MR fodder warframes now?  Just to have something I can work with because I'm being forced to choose between MR fodder junk?

NO!  I will not do it.

Soon as I get all the junk (I'm a completionist)  I am never going to play Duviri again.  It's not worth the grind, the frustration, the anger, the same missions over and over and over again.  It's not worth getting soft locked, frozen, host migrated.  It's not fun doing things and not getting to finish them. 

I do not like when DE devs think they need to force us to play how they want us to play.  Look, I'm sorry your ghoulsaw was a horrible idea and nobody wants to screw with it, but trying to force us to choose it to play with is not going to make anyone like it better, no way, not going to ever happen.  I get it, your feelings are hurt because nobody wants to use and play with what you thought was an awesome idea (it actually was it's just that the weapon sucks) but that is no reason to try and force us to use it now.

It's as if DE looked at the top 100 worst weapons that are used the least and made those weapons pop up 90% of the time with a good weapon thrown in every 10 missions or so, and only one.  I never get an awesome primary with a good anything else, or two awesome weapons, hell there have only be a couple times I got a weapon I actually use on a regular basis.

WHY, why have we worked so hard the past 9+ almost 10 years to now be forced to use all the junk we didn't ever want to use, not ever?  Why?  Why are we being forced to use MR fodder we do not want to ever use?  What is the point?  Are you trying to make us hate playing the game now?

WHY tho?

[.Stormtopia.]

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Why can't I use my hard grinded and built gear in Duviri?

I made a post suggesting how the fifth ability feels wasted and how changing would be more in tune with the thematic selling point of the first Duviri trailer and the longevity of the fifth ability currently present, and how the gun could keep operating until it's out of ammo like an Archgun but also without the timer. The Warframe could still be used but only in the undercroft, since with a timer, the ability is forgettable.

 

 

[Vryheid]

On the one hand, I'm sorry you feel betrayed by the game for "forcing" you to play an (optional) game mode that you clearly don't enjoy, and that you're upset that the (optional) roguelike game mode that has been known for months would be like this has, in fact, roguelike elements.

On the other hand, I disagree with every single statement you've said in this post and I hope the developers sift this thread into the giant dumpster pile of "feedback to not pay attention to".

[ThVVolf]

I see Vryheid is what one calls a true Warframe lover where the game is totally perfect, and DE can do no wrong.

[Cr4zyDoc]

vor 14 Minuten schrieb ThVVolf:

I see Vryheid is what one calls a true Warframe lover where the game is totally perfect, and DE can do no wrong.

Wrong some people just enjoy mission that not turn into boring Meta dumpster fire with the same frames and weapons over and over and over and over and over again.

If you want to play braindead loadouts, there are tons of mission where people can do so. if u dont like the mode, dont play it. like i do with Khals missions. But you wont see me complain about it other than the Crybabys in threads like this one.

Edited May 13 by AstrayRed84

[General_Durandal]

18 hours ago, AstrayRed84 said:

Wrong some people just enjoy mission that not turn into boring Meta dumpster fire with the same frames and weapons over and over and over and over and over again.

If you want to play braindead loadouts, there are tons of mission where people can do so. if u dont like the mode, dont play it. like i do with Khals missions. But you wont see me complain about it other than the Crybabys in threads like this one.

So in other words, "Don't play the game."

Oh wow, yes, just brilliant, absolutely fantastic, 
exactly what a game developer wants to hear people say about the game.

XD

Perhaps then they can also move the loot you can only get from the new thing,
into the "boring Meta dumpster fire" that's I've already put 9k hours into.

Yes,
here I am with 9k hours already in the game,
saying I want to stop playing the game,
because they keep making bad decisions.

10k IQ indeed all around.

[Pakaku]

Oh no, Duviri's update wasn't what you wanted

...Anyways, I'm going back to playing the normal game, which hasn't gone anywhere just because of Duviri being added

[CephalonCarnage]

Warframe is joy
fast, fluid shines like metal
Drifter is mud.

[HonorGuard2074]

So just saying this  about the second  section of the post 

The game will give you a set of weapons & frames and if you simply exit & return in the same cycle without playing with them any ,it will simply hand you the same set of gear again til you either play with it for a round or wait til the next mood swing 

[NovaLP]

I recommend watching this at the exact timestamp i've set:

no need to rephrase what has already been said.

[Cr4zyDoc]

vor 8 Stunden schrieb General_Durandal:

So in other words, "Don't play the game."

Oh wow, yes, just brilliant, absolutely fantastic, 
exactly what a game developer wants to hear people say about the game.

XD

Perhaps then they can also move the loot you can only get from the new thing,
into the "boring Meta dumpster fire" that's I've already put 9k hours into.

Yes,
here I am with 9k hours already in the game,
saying I want to stop playing the game,
because they keep making bad decisions.

10k IQ indeed all around.

Love the people who complain if they cant use meta. or if meta gets nerfed.

Like yikes such childish crybabys... 

 

Instead of adapt and move on. Its not even a hard Gamemode... Nah they rather being toxic ranting and crying all over the forums. XD Hillarious. its not a bad decision. They dont have to make the game how YOU want it. Its one gamemode out of a ton. and for the first time in a while its something diffrent. and nothing where only side objectives are added and yet still feels the same as any other mission because of the same stuff getting used over and over. 

In circuit EVERY round feels diffrent because of the Random loadouts and it feels more fresh and unique than the stuff added before. Meta players who refuse to adapt and only can cry about stuff thats new or diffrent are what truly kills the game. If they would add only stuff to your taste the game would become more and more stale and boring. But yeah ur 9K hours are obviously not enough to figure that out...

I mean comon... how childish to write: If tHeY dOnt ChAngE iT i lEavE tHe gAmE. 

Do you really think they listen to the feedback like this? I mean they wanted to try something diffrent, put lots work in an Update and the haters act like that and not giving and constructive Feedback and yeah only hating. 

vor 8 Stunden schrieb General_Durandal:

Oh wow, yes, just brilliant, absolutely fantastic, 
exactly what a game developer wants to hear people say about the game.

Yeah exactly what game developers want to hear after an update they spend time developing, bringing in some new ideas. Not....

what kind of players u think they value more? The ones wanting to change everything to be the same and only hating on new ideas and not even giving new stuff a chance.

OR

People who do feedback objectively yet still are open minded for new ideas. 

Yeah sry not everyone has the mindset that only meta matters and are able to make lots of stuff work. Its ONE mode thats not supposed to be beaten with meta.

ONE mode and they want it to be changed to THEIR playstyle and dont care that there actually LOTS of people like it.... Pathetic

 

 

Edited May 14 by AstrayRed84

[(PSN)Madurai-Prime]

Because you're 1 of tens of thousands of players....

People are gonna like things you don't like...and you have to exist knowing this will happen in most facets of life.

Many people wanted a stat-squished, nerfed warframe so team work is more possible and everyone can plan, communicate and contribute.

[Nexeroff]

On 2023-05-13 at 6:11 AM, AstrayRed84 said:

Wrong some people just enjoy mission that not turn into boring Meta dumpster fire with the same frames and weapons over and over and over and over and over again.

If you want to play braindead loadouts, there are tons of mission where people can do so. if u dont like the mode, dont play it. like i do with Khals missions. But you wont see me complain about it other than the Crybabys in threads like this one.

Play 10 years, invest a significant amount of your entertainment time, and money for that matter in the game and then experience something like Duviri update.

It is geared towards new players mostly.

You are forced to do many things in a group, otherwise you cannot do certain things like the shrine for example, can't do that solo unless you do the entire mission solo because DE is forcing us to have more than 1 person to make it work.

Invest significant time and significant warframe resources in the form of arcanes, mods, etc so that you can play with a specific synergy and then play the update not being able to use any of your hard one effort you acquired over years of gameplace in a new update waited upon for years.

It would be different if 3 years ago DE came out and said not to delete your garbage fodder weapons but instead to forma and mod them all so that they can be used in a future update being planned at that time.  AS it sits now, I end up being able to choose from the absolute worst fodder base version weapons most times, that I only trained up for MR and never forma or modded completely and then deleted because you know, weapon slots cost plat.  Think about that.

We can more or less mostly choose weapons we have not put forma on, so DE is trying to force a case where you are required to buy or build the weapon (plat) buy or earn forma to slap on it (plat) buy more weapons slots to hold those weapons (plat) and then mod them for only the purpose to use them in Duviri.  The only reason for this type of gameplay is so that DE forces a situation where people are spending, and thus buying more plat.

It could have been so much better.  For example, DE could have offered to replace any weapon that had been deleted in the past so we don't have to rebuild all that garbage MR fodder all over again.  DE could have added the ability to choose between one wareframe and one weapon we use most along with the garbage MR fodder.

Point is this.  We are now being forced to play with frames and gear, weapons etc we do not want to play with.  We are supposed to enjoy the game, not be forced to play some garbage MR fodder because some dev is butthurt nobody want's to play some MR fodder they created.  We are here to have fun, we are there customers and if we are not having fun?  So are you suggesting instead of bringing these major huge giant issues and how poor the new system works tot he attention of DE, we should what, not play the game?

I'll tell you this, if DE doesn't get it through their head fairly soon that they work for us, who provide them with the money they are paid, and start creating content that is fun, engaging, makes us happy then DE is going to find that this is a 10 year and not 11 year old game.  People will leave and the only people who will stay are those who are new.

We invested up to 10 years in this game, went through the growing pains, stuck it out only to now get to this place where if we spent any significant time in game earning all the things that make us better players, investing tons of time and effort and energy obtaining those things that make our gameplay better only to have DE create new content that by the way our money paid to develop, that ignores all that hard work and effort, does not reward us in any way for all that hard work and effort and as a matter of fact, excludes all that hard work and effort.  And we are supposed to not complain about these issues?

You are delusional, you are not thinking logically, reasonably nor objectively.  You don't like us complaining about what is painfully and obviously wrong about all this, then don't read it.  You are not adding any value to this thread, so don't add anything else.

 

[DYSEQTA]

The Circuit is about mixing things up and teamwork. Someone gets a rough roll then the team can carry them until they get enough decrees to contribute. The decrees mean any gear can become viable if you apply your brain. It's about doing the best you can with what you get.

If you don't like the mode, don't play it.

[-AncientWarrior-]

On 2023-05-14 at 12:57 AM, ThVVolf said:

I see Vryheid is what one calls a true Warframe lover where the game is totally perfect, and DE can do no wrong.

Yes there are a few around ..

20 hours ago, Pakaku said:

Oh no, Duviri's update wasn't what you wanted

...Anyways, I'm going back to playing the normal game, which hasn't gone anywhere just because of Duviri being added

Problem is it won't be going anywhere from now on.. DE have chosen their path and it isnt warframe of old..

[Pakaku]

3 minutes ago, -AncientWarrior- said:

Problem is it won't be going anywhere from now on.. DE have chosen their path and it isnt warframe of old..

I'm going to reserve my judgement until they announce their next update, and whatever it is they plan on focusing on

[RafMatador22]

5 minutes ago, -AncientWarrior- said:

Yes there are a few around ..

Problem is it won't be going anywhere from now on.. DE have chosen their path and it isnt warframe of old..

I don't think they're going to completely abandon the essence of what makes this game so beloved to this day, I think they're just trying new things to see what happens.