how are people completing rank 10 steel path in less then 4 hours?

[(XBOX)Player244024418]

20 hours ago, Cerenax said:

not counting breaks in-between the runs

How do you take breaks in circuit?

53 minutes ago, Grommile said:

Likewise, most of my arsenal, both weapons and 'frames, in Warframe is MR fodder: built, levelled up to 30 for Mastery XP, then parked in storage with no potato and no forma.

Me too but circuit has been forcing me to add a forma or two to more frames. I seem to have hit an inflection point where lately for WF selection, I usually (~80%) get a frame I can do something with. There's hundreds of weapons unfortunately so that will probably never happen.

It's funny, i main RevP but won't pick him due to poor weapon selection in circuit. I just ran him 10 rounds and used enthrall but after the mission I had 44 total kills. Terrible weapon choices.

Wish there was a regular "circuit" where you get random missions spawning for the squad but get to use your regular WFs 

[cute_moth.npc]

5 hours ago, jibbahjabbah said:

I don't if you meant this as a joke but I read it as such and, admittedly, it got me a bit

Sadly no, not a joke. Too many random players leave when you're still earning 100 points per round and send you back to picking Warframes again, making it painfully slow. 

The op was asking how you do sub 4 hour runs to 10, the answer is to find people who will stick it out and play long enough to be making 170 points per round most of the time ^^;

[Cerenax]

2 hours ago, (XBOX)Player244024418 said:

How do you take breaks in circuit?

I mean in between the runs, not in between the rounds themselves (i.e. go 14 rounds and extract, take a break, do it again, etc...).

[Cerikus]

3 hours ago, Grommile said:

You gotta catch 'em all.

You don't gotta train 'em all up to a worthwhile build.

Back when I played Pokemon, most of my pokemon were pokedex fodder: caught, levelled up enough to evolve if applicable, then parked in storage. Only a select few got the benefit of stat booster items, TM moves, etc.

Likewise, most of my arsenal, both weapons and 'frames, in Warframe is MR fodder: built, levelled up to 30 for Mastery XP, then parked in storage with no potato and no forma.

Ok, then my methaphor was wrong. It's not like pokemon. Got me there.

It doesn't change the fact, that this game asks you to actually "train your pokemons". If a player decides to burn through every frame and weapon by spending time in ESO, Hydron or wherever, then it's their problem. It's not DEs fault, if that player then lacks equipment to participate in arguably "most difficult" content this game currently has to offer.

Especially, if there they made it possibile to actually participate 100%, but at a disadvangate, which leads to the grind taking longer. 

It's perfectly fair and reasonable.

P. S. Only like 5 frames are currently possible to consider MR fodder, so it's really about the way you look at things.

3 hours ago, Darth_Predator said:

That's what I initially though of doing. Then I just selected to not participate in the mode at all. I think I'll grab a couple of incarnons sometime in the future, but for now I can forget about time limits and just do whatever I feel like doing.

Sure, that's understandable. If all or nothing is your prefered way to go at it, then you do you. I get it, it's honestly better to not participate, if you think it would not be fun for you.

[Joezone619]

I got prepared for duviri. I have had all frames for a while but before duviri i never actually made builds for them. So when duvivi's release was drawing close, i fixed them all up, along with as many of my weapons i could. i wouldn't say they're all steel path ready, but they all have usable builds, making them at least decent in steel path. At my level, i have most of the stuff that duviri is randomizing, and with the ammount of options, i'll usually have something i can use to carry me.

But even when i don't i also have operator focus totally maxed, every school, every ability, maxed out. Combine that with the arcanes and amps i use, i can essentially use my operator to carry if i need to. Investing in operator is really worth it in the long run, and the circuit seems like an amazing place for focus farming.

[Grommile]

1 minute ago, Cerikus said:

P. S. Only like 5 frames are currently possible to consider MR fodder, so it's really about the way you look at things.

37 frames are MR/helminth fodder, because prime versions of them exist.

Leaving aside that senseless pedantry on my part, there's a bunch of frames that I've tried to play and decided that wherever their Fun and Effectiveness is, I don't feel like investing the time to find it, because I've already got Zephyr, who is lots of fun and reasonably effective.

3 minutes ago, Cerikus said:

It's not DEs fault, if that player then lacks equipment to participate in arguably "most difficult" content this game currently has to offer.

There was never any reason to believe that there would suddenly be a scuffed roguelite within Warframe.

[Cerikus]

7 minutes ago, Grommile said:

because I've already got Zephyr, who is lots of fun and reasonably effective.

Yeah, there are a lots of people in this game who (for some reason) play it like you do.
Zephyr makes up 30% of your usage.
Ignis Wraith over 20%.
Dex Furis 26.3% and K. Nukor 23.3%
and Xoris 43.9%.

This is in no way against you. I fully support you playing the game how you want, but DE disagrees and they've shown many time that they don't like when players use one thing.

12 minutes ago, Grommile said:

There was never any reason to believe that there would suddenly be a scuffed roguelite within Warframe.

Only the years of community going back and forth with DE and asking them to do literally what they did. And all those comments that t's something they want to eventually do. But apart from that, nothing. And btw, it was revealed last Tennocon that Duviri is roguelite, so players had almost a year to prepare. It was definitelly not a sudden surprise.

Again, I totally get what you mean and I support your way of playing, you just cannot expect the game to bend around your playstyle.

SP Circuit is still playable with the default builds, it's just very ineffective, if you want to optimize, you will have to make your own builds.

[Qriist]

24 minutes ago, Cerikus said:

I fully support you playing the game how you want, but DE disagrees and they've shown many time that they don't like when players use one thing.

[(PSN)Nelsconey]

On 2023-06-03 at 10:19 PM, (PSN)Spider_Enigma said:

this takes way tooo long

8 hours to do this is insane 

:edit: this is a real question because people r syaing they r getting it done is less then 3 hours

I got to rank 9 in 3.5 hrs.   4 separate groups.  Public.

If you want to get it done faster.  Play right after the weekly change. 

 

[Mr.Holyroller]

4 runs of like 12-15 waves can be done in roughly 60-75mins per run and its enough to hit 10

Edited June 5 by Mr.Holyroller
60-75 mins per run

[_Anise_]

On 2023-06-04 at 4:19 AM, (PSN)Spider_Enigma said:

this takes way tooo long

I am only doing upto tier 5 reward and even that is painful

[jibbahjabbah]

5 hours ago, cute_moth.npc said:

Sadly no, not a joke. Too many random players leave when you're still earning 100 points per round and send you back to picking Warframes again, making it painfully slow. 

The op was asking how you do sub 4 hour runs to 10, the answer is to find people who will stick it out and play long enough to be making 170 points per round most of the time ^^;

Ah, fair enough. Just read it as an alternative to the old chestnut "Get good noob". I suppose that's just another lesson in that things aren't as we perceive them. A good lesson to learn that few seem to.

[BansheePrime]

I joke, but... 

Spoiler

 

[Lord_Drod]

2 hours ago, Cerikus said:

Yeah, there are a lots of people in this game who (for some reason) play it like you do.
Zephyr makes up 30% of your usage.
Ignis Wraith over 20%.
Dex Furis 26.3% and K. Nukor 23.3%
and Xoris 43.9%.

SP Circuit is still playable with the default builds, it's just very ineffective, if you want to optimize, you will have to make your own builds.

 

These stats could mean something, but they can also be misleading.  For example, I have not used scoliac or atterax once since they were nerfed into the ground, and that was 3 years ago?  Yet they are still my top two melee's in % used and I've played tons of hours since, but maybe not as heavily as I was playing then.  I take pride in that hoping pablo will see I am still using the scoliac and nerf it further into the ground, because why not?  You can't use a whip at all anyway.  Also, great balance from DE to turn a 20m whip into a sock.

I have plenty of starter weapons in my first row that I never take out ever.  Of my top 7 primaries shown, most of those I never bring out anywhere.  I have found something I like more than the rest that has sailed to the top, but that's only within the last 8 months.  Is DE filtering out your % used by date or just evaluating the entire data?

Also, I have 1600 forma spread across 400 weapons, so I'm prepared more than most for this mode and I still get plenty of fodder, so that's kind of discouraging and I don't even use my weapons, but kill with my amp instead.  So its kind of disappointing that even in this mode, I'm not really getting to take advantage of my arsenal and even if I could always pick something with a good build, it isn't always a great option for SP defense, with 5-10 decrees.  You'll get more mileage in the mission with a dedicated build, but if you don't have even distribution in %used and own every weapon totally modded out, you'll mostly see things you don't own or don't use.  Once you put resources into those weapons, it will just give you other weapons you don't own or use, that's why operator is best.

 

Edited June 5 by Lord_Drod
eye make no sense

[cute_moth.npc]

2 hours ago, Cerikus said:

Only the years of community going back and forth with DE and asking them to do literally what they did

Players have been asking for years for end game modes that let them challenge their builds and strategies.

An end game mode that intentionally tries to prevent players from using their desired builds. This is literally the opposite of what players actually asked for.

[Cerikus]

15 minutes ago, cute_moth.npc said:

Players have been asking for years for end game modes that let them challenge their builds and strategies.

And they got Steel path, there is nothing else this game can offer other than higher health, armor and shields. Do you want Steel path 2? I will strip everyones armor and delete them all the same. Do you want mechanics? That's not a challenge for a build.

24 minutes ago, cute_moth.npc said:

An end game mode that intentionally tries to prevent players from using their desired builds. This is literally the opposite of what players actually asked for.

Dunno what you are talking about. Everytime I enter Circuit I find several of my end game builds I can pick and challenge myself.

Warframe is toolbox game. You are supposed to aquire tools for your box. If you decide to get one multitool and ignore everything else, you risk being powerless when you are presented with a task like Circuit. i.e.

Teshin: "Through paradox these items from your toolbox manifested, but... Oh no... You didn't put anything in your toolbox... By all means, your choice. I'll even borrow you my tools. They won't be as effective as yours would, if you played the game properly, Tenno. Next time, maybe you should take control and aquire some tools for your toolbox before returning here... Or you can go through the paradox and out of the spiral and go complain on the forums. What will you do?"

[(XBOX)TheWayOfWisdom]

1 hour ago, Mr.Holyroller said:

4 runs of like 12-15 waves can be done in roughly 60-75 minutes and its enough to hit 10

How are you doing sub 2 minute rounds. 48 rounds in 75 min is a pretty outrageous claim.

[sly_squash]

I'm lucky if my pub teammates are able to make their frame and weapon selections within 75 minutes...

[cute_moth.npc]

17 minutes ago, Cerikus said:

 What will you do?"

Sell my unleveled gear that I had no reason to keep before, along with all of the Warframes I don't like to play, and not reward the developers by spending plat on garbage for a single game mode that's going to be a derelict in a few months? Play other games when it wants to offer me things I don't enjoy? That fixed the RNG for me at least ^^;

The game hasn't ever been how you're claiming it to be. Having more than one tool in your kit is nice, and players to varying degrees were already participating in that. It's a sandbox though, not a grand journey to completionism.

Any indication that the hundreds of junk items or the things we don't enjoy playing was going to be a cornerstone in an upcoming game mode was utterly absent and it is kind of an insane expectation to me to think about finishing them for a mode largely made up of recycled content. I'd rather not reward that kind of concept.

[Cerikus]

8 minutes ago, cute_moth.npc said:

The game hasn't ever been how you're claiming it to be.

Except for the the time when CC was best and you had to have Loki and Vauban and Nova to be able to fulfill those roles.
Except when Eidolons were introduced and you had to have Harrow, Trinity, Chroma and Volt to be able to fulfill those roles.
Except when it was common to create resource farming parties of Trinity, Hydroid, Rhino and Speedva and you had to have those builds ready.
Except when Frost was a staple in excavation hieracon for fusion core farming or any defense endurance.
Except when Banshee was a staple in any interception mission.
Except when Ember was a staple for quick extermination.
Except for the time most frames were unable to ESO well, so you had to have Saryn or Volt or Equinox.
etc... etc...

If I forget all those and many more, then yeah, the game was never about having proper gear to do the thing it was asking us to do.

[cute_moth.npc]

Just now, Cerikus said:

Except for the the time when CC was best and you had to have Loki and Vauban and Nova to be able to fulfill those roles.
Except when Eidolons were introduced and you had to have Harrow, Trinity, Chroma and Volt to be able to fulfill those roles.
Except when it was common to create resource farming parties of Trinity, Hydroid, Rhino and Speedva and you had to have those builds ready.
Except when Frost was a staple in excavation hieracon for fusion core farming or any defense endurance.
Except when Banshee was a staple in any interception mission.
Except when Ember was a staple for quick extermination.
Except for the time most frames were unable to ESO well, so you had to have Saryn or Volt or Equinox.
etc... etc...

If I forget all those and many more, then yeah, the game was never about having proper gear to do the thing it was asking us to do.

I'm going to just repeat myself.

20 minutes ago, cute_moth.npc said:

The game hasn't ever been how you're claiming it to be. Having more than one tool in your kit is nice, and players to varying degrees were already participating in that. It's a sandbox though, not a grand journey to completionism

Tools for purposes, things players wanted to use.

When has it ever been about collecting and finishing basically everything?

[Mr.Holyroller]

1 hour ago, (XBOX)TheWayOfWisdom said:

How are you doing sub 2 minute rounds. 48 rounds in 75 min is a pretty outrageous claim.

The thread is asking how people do it in less than 4 hours.
60-75 minutes per run
That's about/less than 4 hours.
With a good group or playing solo with a good setup you can get down to 4mins per stage. even a bit less on extraction and void flood

Edited June 5 by Mr.Holyroller

[(XBOX)TheWayOfWisdom]

1 minute ago, Mr.Holyroller said:

The thread is asking how people do it in less than 4 hours.
That's about/less than 4 hours.
With a good group or playing solo with a good setup you can get down to 4mins per stage. even a bit less on extraction and void flood

Didn't answer the question at all. You say that you can do 4 runs of 12-15 rounds in 60-75 minutes, i.e 48-60 rounds in 60-75 minutes, which is minimum 1.5 minutes per round. You see the issue?

[Mr.Holyroller]

4 minutes ago, (XBOX)TheWayOfWisdom said:

Didn't answer the question at all. You say that you can do 4 runs of 12-15 rounds in 60-75 minutes, i.e 48-60 rounds in 60-75 minutes, which is minimum 1.5 minutes per round. You see the issue?

60-75 minutes per run.
4 runs in total.
 

[Traumtulpe]

If time is a constraint for you, just go for rank 5 to get one Incarnon adapter per week. Rank 10 takes quite a bit longer than 2x rank 5.

You can get to rank 10 in about 3 hours, if you're lucky with equipment; This is rank 7 in 1 hour 42:And the excarvation part took me much longer than necessary, since I had no means of defending them and they'd often get oneshot after 10 seconds or less.